edubirdie.com any opinions?

Hey guys, would you share any opinions of edubirdie.com / uk.edubirdie.com agency?

As far as I know, there are only 3-5 genuine essay writing/research services based in the UK; the rest are foreign websites pretending to be located in the UK.

The agency in question has posted the following job on a freelance writing website: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:YkdluJpQNMkJ: peopleperhour.com/job/i-need-to-proofread-a-website-1469503+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It strongly suggest none of the members of their writing team is a native English speaker.

Description

Experience Level: Entry Level
Num. of words: 800-850
Industry: Education
Topic: Proofreading a website
Tone: Other
Extensive research needed: no
Extra notes: Hi,

I need you to read 10 website pages and proofread them for mistakes.

I need you to fix any grammar/orthographic mistakes. Also, there should be everything fine with the general meaning.

The texts don't require any major changes so it shouldn't be difficult. Please send me the texts with the markings where you've made corrections; this will help me to see what mistakes have been fixed.

Job posted by:

Viktoriya K.
Content Manager
Projects Completed
30
Sellers worked with
14
Jobs awarded
72%
Last project
20 Feb 2017
Ukraine

A sampling from this site:

excessive quoting = removed

There's more (as always), but you get the idea...

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*Wow!

Thank you for your opinions

I got halfway through a request to the 'pick a writer' stage and received several messages in the live chat box from a bunch of people with profile pictures which were obviously not them. They all had pre-made messages guaranteeing their writing services and tbh they all sounded like copy pastes of each other =/ they also didn't sound like English was their first language. I researched they are based in Ukraine.

It's probably bad. It's the same / affiliated with ukessay.com and edubirdie ("Plan B Services").

It is officially confirmed by the BBC NEWS that EduBirdie is located in Ukraine. They pay Youtubers to advertise the cheating services online. More - bbc.com/news/education-43956001

I don't know what to think about it.. I'm starting to feel more and more suspicious about the state of the UK media in regards to reporting of academic paper services. EduBirdie (located in Ukraine, but having a market presence in the UK) and other non-UK-based research services working with UK students have been attacked by the big UK media for years now, but UKEssays (which is located in the UK and is the biggest of them and has advertised on big UK media outlets and has been promoting academic cheating by guaranteeing actual academic grades) has never had bad press (until the start of this year when they lost an appeal regarding false advertising). Is it just a coincidence or well played politics? Still hard to say.

Ukrainian company writing essays for British students? In English? Maybe like <<Я не говорю англійською мовою>>. What about the Ukrainian privacy or copyright laws? Ukraine is not in the EU. Its laws are Soviet-style. No international laws. No copyright laws. No privacy laws. No customer protection laws. Students get duped.

Maybe the reason the reporters turn a blind eye to the big UK academic outsourcing companies is because of protectionism. You know what I mean... It is alright for fellow Brits to circumvent the law in support of their native students. It is another thing for an outsider to pretend to be in their country and dupe the students. The UK company gives the students a legal recourse should they decide to sue the company, the Ukrainian company is above the British trade and commerce laws since they do not have a physical presence in the country.

That is why, the UK investigative journalists are after the mock academic writing companies using a fictitious UK presence. Granted though that both companies still help the students get around academic policies, the point is, one is homegrown, the other is a pretender. So they run after the ones who take their students for a ride from outside the country's jurisdiction. Personally, I would not trust either company because they both could turn on the students any second.

Can you explain how a russian company can write English paper for students in the UK? They speak russian at home. I've heard Russians speak English in London and you hardly understand anything. Is the UK education so low that a Russian can pass an exam?

My assumption is that there are international schools in Russia that use English as a mode of teaching. So it is quite possible for some Russians to speak and write in proper English. There are also tutorial lessons in English that some Russian students attend in the hopes of helping them to break out overseas. However, these are not the students who end up working for companies such as edubirdie. Instead, the writers that work for this company are those who have an ESL knowledge of the English language and who thus, cater to ESL students in the UK. These writers know enough to get by using bastardized English and the clients of the company, who don't know the difference since they cannot speak the language properly anyway, hire them because they sound like the student on paper. Believe me, an ENL student from the UK will not be hiring edubirdie services because they know what kind of problems they will have when they deal with such a company. The Russians who attend international schools and get English tutoring on the side? They won't even apply to such a company because their family is moneyed and they don't need to eke out a living in such a manner. They are mostly the Russian equivalent of trust fund babies.

It could work for elementary or high school students. But its not only about English writing. It's academic research. They cannot teach them that. The only possible way would be to paraphrase or plagiarize other sources. But that would catch them via Turnitin.

Assume a Russian / Ukrainian company posts students credit card details and home addresses on some .ru website. Or posts your name, email, uni name, and projects they completed. Google indexes it all. What are you or your UK \ US lawyer gonna do about that? Nada. Or he can call Putin. You screwed. You agreed to be bound by Ukrainian laws. Good luck with that.

I've seen the kind of writing you're talking about: it's usually an endless string of badly paraphrased ideas and numerous unnecessary quotes on every page punctuated by a bunch of "as _____ states," or "_____ writes" with virtually no actual original writing in between. Even most of what's paraphrased and quoted are non sequiturs and orphaned points that have nothing to do with the points either immediately preceding or following them. Basically, just nonsense and gibberish to fill the page count.

Meanwhile.. a conversation between a Youtube star and his lawyer...

Youtube Star with 90M followers: Yo, whats up. I got this text from BigNasty G20. They say: "If you ever worked with Edu Bird - delete all videos that have them right now! Call other MFs and spread the word!" Youtube sent me email to delete some of the videos? Or I get ban? What kind of sh*t is that, say what you know smarty? We get f*ked hard on that!

Lawyer: I received the news. Basically they tell you to delete the videos where you mention the birds.

Youtube Star: Say whaaat? I paid lots of coin to make them! You kidding me right? Whats that bird s**t!?

Lawyer: Listen, I know how you feel. But they say you promote cheating. Like college student cheating and plagierism uneducation stuff. Didn't you know what you promote?

Youtube Star: F=*K that! I was just readin' the bird sh*t ad they gave me and paid me for it. I ain't do nothing wrong b*atch!

Lawyer: Calm down. They paid you, you good. But now delete the videos. They are poisonous. They have nasty bird s**t all over the place. Better safe than sorry. They can ban your channel. I'm serious.

Youtube Star: Those mothF*krs. Can we do something 'about that? Like call their lawyer. I pay you, do your f*KIN' job homie!

Lawyer: I serious do what I can. I made some phone calls. But the BBC people say they in Ukraine..

Youtube Star: Ukraine... that's in Pennsylvania? For real, we got our peeps there!!

Lawyer: Ukraine.. that's in Russia.. near Europe. Something like that. Bottom line - it's the admiral Putin's territory. We ain't gonna mess with them. You know, Russia.. black bears.. it ain't fake news brother.

Youtube Star: Who the F*k is that Putin? We got crips in Europe, no?! He wants to f*k with us?

Lawyer: Relax.. we need to take it e-zy this time. Too much publicity. BBC, CNN, Blockbuster, Oscars, all that cr@p. They been watching us for long time, many months.

Youtube Star: But I did nothing wrong! Whats the problem!?

Lawyer: Let me make another call. Will let you know.

Youtube Star: You do, MF! They cannot pull that s**t off! You know whats beef?

Lawyer: Uhm?

Youbute Star:

"Y'all got the gall, all I make is one phone call,
All y'all disappear by tomorrow"

Lawyer: Too risky this time, dawg. No worry, we'll figure it out. We got played like damn fools but the game is still on. For now I take care of Youtube videos. Maybe we'll make them private and it works out.

Youtube Star: You do bro. Call me up if you need me. That bird nerd s*h*t stinks man!

I'm not quite sure this works against them. They get some valuable airtime and recognition that lifts them to within the eye-shot of thousands of potential customers


The companies don't necessarily have Russians/Ukrainians doing the actual writing. They hire writers from mostly ESL countries like Pakistan, Kenya, India, and Philippines, though some also hire from the UK, US, Australia, and Canada

In a short term, yes. But in the long term.. when students find out that even prominent Youtube stars have no recourse against the Ukrainian laws (or lack of thereof), they may consider double-checking the service's or writer's true location before ordering from them. Otherwise, they can end up in the same situation.


The point was that a turtle will never be faster than a rabbit. Your riposte was that a snail or a night crawler might be faster than a rabbit. Not.

Regarding the whole drama, I understand Youtube / Google. They have received bad publicity on something they (at least Google) have banned from advertising. The Ukrainian managers have found a way to get around the ban and took advantage of lack of legal knowledge / experience of Youtube publishers. Youtube / Google made no money on those inside deals so it's not surprising they have no problem banning the videos.

The only question is, who sponsored the BBC investigations and why. The same Ukrainian services (and / or their competition) have been buying unattributed links from HuffPosts and other mainstream reporters / bloggers. It's forbidden by Google search TOS, but it's been going on for years now.

Since there is a belief that journalists are now for sale, it is possible that the BBC was paid to do the investigative presentation. Leads were offered to them, particular companies were listed, and the slant of the presentation was dictated by, guess who? A UK based academic writing company that considers the featured YouTube company stiff competition. It's all about the money to shoot down your opponents so the company can try to steal the business. Whether they admit it or not, academic writing is as cutthroat a business as any. Independent writers tear each other down and backstab each other in the hopes of taking clients from one another and the companies, try to shut each other down so that the field will become less competitive. It's an ugly business supported by questionable money and paid interests. Just like everything else in a capitalist world. As far as I am concerned, the "Who" is an unnamed competitor and the "Why" is to shut down the other business so that more clients can enter the system for the competitor company. These people may even know each other personally and admit to being business competitors for all we know.

Not any of the legitimate writers I've ever known. My legitimate independent competitors and I compete against one another honorably and amicably; we also refer clients to one another when we're booked up. Likewise, I compete honorably against essay companies and, on some occasions, I still refer projects to one of them, as well. In my experience, it's only the idiots who aren't legitimate independent writers in the first place (and some cutthroat company reps) whose behavior on this forum and elsewhere matches your description.

Depends partly on the definition of short and long term. The average student needs essay writing services for under 5 yrs


NO. In my response, there was no reference to a 'rabbit'. I only indicated that the snail (Russian/Ukrainian) hires the slightly faster turtle (Indian/Pakistani/Filipino). This was to address @killo's wonder of how Russians who barely speak English can write papers in the language for students.


Really?


This is too far-fetched IMO. Don't you think the BBC has better and more unquestionable avenues of earning dozes of multiples over the amount they'd get from such a contemptible source? This is a mild response to your suggestion, BTW

Saying one thing in public and backstabbing in private is not the best definition of 'honorable.' When some other writer or service contacted you if you'd be interested in completing the order, you chose to criticize them. Or whenever some other writer or service has been criticized, you add fuel to the fire to present your own service in a positive light.


If you knew more, it would not appear that way to you. The BBC is part of the 'old media' that is in constant fight with the new media (ie. Google / Youtube / Facebook etc.). The indirect goal of the old media might have been to discredit the competitor (ie. Youtube / Google), ie. that they have no control over advertisers and actual content published on their platforms. The goal was achieved, but there could be other aspects to it too.

For example, could you explain why almost only non-UK 'academic cheating' services have ever had bad press in the British media? Is it just a coincidence? All the examples / PDFs of 'dishonest writing services' have been carefully picked to only show those that are not British-owned. It's like writing a big news report entitled: 'The History of Automobiles' and not mentioning the word Ford.

Actually, that company contacted me again right after my post to inform me that they found me because another writer I know to be totally legit recommended me. They also explained that their system took the order automatically and that nobody made a decision to accept an order for which they had no writer capable of writing. I apologized, saying that I wish they'd mentioned how they found me in their initial email and I asked whether they wanted a public apology and they said they'd rather just let the topic die out on its own. That's why I never responded to your comment suggesting that it must not have been a US/UK company. Originally, I was annoyed because I thought they chose to accept a project despite not (yet) having anybody who could do it, instead of simply declining to accept the order as I had the day before when the customer contacted me for it, first.

In any case, there was no "backstabbing" involved. I never even named the company and it wasn't in "private," either; because my comment was in public right on this forum. All I knew at the time that I posted my original comment was that a company with whom I had no relationship had contacted me out of the blue because (it seemed to me at the time that) they were scrambling to find a writer to complete an order that I thought they never should have accepted in the first place. They explained the situation to me afterwards and I apologized and offered a public retraction that they declined.


In the 10 years that I've been on this forum, I have never once chimed in to attack or criticize any other writer whose work or legitimacy had been criticized. In fact, I've done the exact opposite by defending legitimate writers under unfair attack. When someone attacked Pheelyks in this thread entitled "Pheelyks Versus FreelanceWriter: A Comparative Analysis," https://essayscam.org/forum/es/pheelyks-versus-freelance-writer-comparative-analysis-3051/, the easiest and most beneficial thing I could have done to promote my services "in a positive light" would have been to simply keep my mouth shut. Instead, I responded in detail immediately to defend him, because I knew that he was a good writer despite the fact that he was one of my strongest direct competitors here at the time.

Likewise, you know as well as anybody that I used to defend a certain essay company here against maliciously-false accusations that I knew couldn't possibly be true because I knew first-hand, as one of their writers, that they just didn't do business the way they'd been accused of doing business. At the time, I was already competing directly against them for new private clients even as I was still doing a lot of writing for them simultaneously; so, it would have been much more in my personal interest to just keep my mouth shut there as well, instead of risking my membership here by defending them, which I agreed not to do anymore in 2010 as a condition of being allowed to maintain my forum membership.

For the record - I attach two real tweets from EduBirdie before the Youtube advertising fallout. They invite unsuspecting Youtubers to participate in this suspicious scheme. For certain they knew advertising of their service on Google or Youtube was illegal. It didn't stop them - they couldn't care less about the advertisers. Just like the advertisers couldn't care less about the students. Quote: ".. say a few sentences about our service." - anybody can say a lie for money.

I guess that's the way to go about it if your business model is based on a constant supply of first-time/last-time customers.

Excellent point. And all those fake names like "Jasmine Carlos" - who comes up with them.

Clever guys have come up with creative solutions. On the other hand, legit guys are just happy with what they get without doing much about marketing, lolz. Too bad that we're happy with a one-person show thing to avoid risking quality. (I mean the freelance writers - legit ones.)

... creative solutions .. it's like someone very familiar with the severe anti-drug laws in Malaysia going to a Malaysia Airlines terminal and talking some random travelers (Youtubers) into delivering a package with 'recreational drugs' in exchange for some cash. It may sound creative to you, but to them, at this point, it's probably not.

The company has a PO box address listed in Denver, Colorado. A PO box. Use of such an address tells me the company has something to hide. The IP address tied to it doesn't make sense. Everything about the company is too masked for it to be a legally registered US or UK based company. It claims a UK location via its url name, but has a US post box address. It has operators that do not speak English fluently. The company is intentionally misleading the (potential) client. When a company is this confusing to locate, it would be better to stay away from their company and their writers.

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