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Huge laughs, courtesy of the ESL frauds from India at essayacademia.com


WritersBeware  
May 19, 2010 | #1
Liars

For the record, the scammer from India claims that his "server" is located in San Diego, USA. He's using lies to cover lies. essayacademia.com is on servers provided by BlueHost, a Web hosting company that is located in Utah. Website hosting location has nothing to do with the actual location of the service.

essayacademia.com scam
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
May 19, 2010 | #2
the scammer from India claims that his "server" is located in San Diego

Ok - as is the case with many others, mine is in Scottsdale. When customers ask us where we are located, should we say Scottsdale and give out GoDaddy's address as our own? So what if I've never been to Arizona and do not have a single staff member there - "internet business location is all about the server." Do these people even think before they make such ludicrous statements?

Their support team is in Kuwait? Kuwait outsources practically everything and more than half of its workforce is NOT Kuwaiti. Yet - these people have a support team in Kuwait? They are creating jobs in Kuwait? Besides that being a transparently blatant lie, it makes zero business sense.

These people aren't just liars but, very dumb ones at that.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
May 19, 2010 | #3
Let's get it straight. By asking - "Where are you located?" who do you mean by 'you':

- the company owner/s,
- the writer/s,
- the office location,
- the support staff location,
- the webmaster/designer location,
- the admin location

???

It is a very dumb question if you dont specify who you mean by "YOU". It's especially dumb question if you ask it to an ONLINE company that operates world-wide (WWW = world wide web). It's even dumber question if you know (by your own experience) that 99% of essay websites do not have any established office location to visit (what would they need that for?). Jason (WritersBeware) and Shabnam operate their shady affiliate website from California in their pajamas, they don't even have a business phone number, if you don't believe me ask him for his 'office' location and he would say 'HUH?".

Of course, Jason thinks he can fool the public and that the public won't need clarification.
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
May 19, 2010 | #4
It is a very dumb question if you dont specify who you mean by "YOU".

Sorry, but "you" are wrong.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
May 19, 2010 | #5
Why?
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
May 19, 2010 | #6
Sorry, you're right. Completely right. Please don't change.
OP WritersBeware  
May 19, 2010 | #7
Yuri, you just earned your complete criminal record being posted in a new thread.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
May 19, 2010 | #8
Who needs a record? I can post your record too, but both will be removed since anything personal should stay personal.
Jackie Chan  - | 7  
May 19, 2010 | #9
Thanks that's was funny))
OP WritersBeware  
May 19, 2010 | #10
Why is Yuri (stu4) so bothered every time I expose fraud?

Who needs a record? I can post your record too, but both will be removed since anything personal should stay personal.

YOU can post whatever you like, you piece of trash. I don't have any criminal record whatsoever, and I'm not who you think I am. Go nuts, dips-i*!

Stay tuned for a new thread about the criminal record of the owner of essaywriters.net, bestessays.com, superiorpapers.com, etc.
OP WritersBeware  
May 19, 2010 | #11
Stay tuned for a new thread about the criminal record of the owner of essaywriters.net, bestessays.com, superiorpapers.com, etc.

essayscam.org/forum/gt/criminal-record-owner-essaywriters-bestessays-1728/
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
May 19, 2010 | #12
Let's get it straight. By asking - "Where are you located?" who do you mean by 'you':

`You' certainly does not mean the server.
Jackie Chan  - | 7  
May 19, 2010 | #13
Why just can't Yuri go to prison?

SOME FUN! CHECK IT OUT -> CONTINUES BY ME

Call accepted by operator Neil. Currently in room: Neil, Jackie Chan.

Jackie Chan:
Hi!
Neil:
Hi
Neil:
Hi
Jackie Chan:
How are you?
Neil:
How may I help you?
Neil:
fine
Jackie Chan:
Yes, can you provide me with your register company number please?
Neil:
I am sorry. I dont get you
Jackie Chan:
Erm ok. Let me put like this, is your company legit?
Neil:
sure.
Neil:
why you doubt?
Jackie Chan:
So, then could you provide me PLEASE a VAT registered number of your company and full address with landline number
Neil:
please send all your requirements to admin@essayacademia.com. I dont have right to give such information to customer. I am a chat operator
Jackie Chan:
Actually you are able to provide and it is legal, and by the any visible company law agreement. I need your register number of a company

Neil:
I am sorry. I dont have access to such information. Please ask your doubts to the above mail. The will give you all the information, if you are legit

Jackie Chan:
YOU LIE!
Jackie Chan:
your fake company is just a piece of indian scam
Jackie Chan:
bunch of liars!!
Jackie Chan:
you are going to prison soon
Neil:
thanks for the information
Neil:
could you please help us?
Jackie Chan:
to help you with what?
Jackie Chan:
Just do us a favour
Jackie Chan:
DO NOT SCAM
Jackie Chan:
and do not break people souls
Jackie Chan:
and other students who pay money

Neil has left the conversation. Currently in room: Jackie Chan.

Jackie Chan:
desperately rely on your fake service

LOL:D
stevej  - | 3  
Jun 30, 2010 | #14
this is funny
flag  1 | 2  
Jun 30, 2010 | #15
leave the guy alone, he is not liar, i submit a request in their website, but he could not do it, and gave me back my money, so he is not a scam!!!
OP WritersBeware  
Jun 30, 2010 | #16
You don't have a clue. I have already outlined all of his fraudulent activities and practices in this and other threads. "Fraud" and misrepresentation have no correlation to whether or not a fraudster gives a refund to a particular customer.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jul 01, 2010 | #17
leave the guy alone, he is not liar,

Are you referring to Yuri/Stu4?
Tyler8686  - | 3  
Jul 01, 2010 | #18
LOL!

"I'm sorry sir, I don't know where the heck I am..."

Hehehehe... why can't they just try to be authentic, honest and REAL?
flag  1 | 2  
Jul 01, 2010 | #19
Are you referring to Yuri/Stu4?

No sir, I mean the Indian guy Neil or something.


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d3d3_darr3n  - | 6  
Jan 22, 2011 | #20
I did use the 24 hours service chat of EssayAcademia due to some minor questions about their order form...

The one I got was Paul.
Any idea, anyone?
HarvardWriter  - | 6  
Jan 23, 2011 | #21
So is the scam that they are off-shore and claiming to be native English speakers? Or do they actually scam in a way that takes money off the students and then not deliver the work?
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jan 23, 2011 | #22
excellent question, Harvard.
smirk  - | 141  
Jan 23, 2011 | #23
So is the scam that they are off-shore and claiming to be native English speakers?

in some countries it is called "misrepresentation"

if you place an order online with the website, which advertises brazillian coffee, you expect to receive brazillian coffee
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jan 23, 2011 | #24
people on these boards do love their apples and oranges...
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jan 23, 2011 | #25
Yes, I am quite fond of apples and oranges but not at all of you. I'm allergic to nuts.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jan 23, 2011 | #26
charming and witty...
OP pheelyks  
Jan 23, 2011 | #27
excellent question, Harvard.

No, it isn't, and I'll tell you why. All of the scam companies in this industry will ultimately deliver something--some of them might not until after receiving frantic/threatening messages from customers, but they all know how to copy and paste at elast well enough to throw something together.

The scams these companies operate are both that they hire ESL writers with far-less-than-fluent English skills without telling customers, AND that they fail t deliver a product of any value. If you actually worked in this industry at all (or spent any time reading old threads), ed, you might be aware of this.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jan 23, 2011 | #28
P-- I don't know; I'm just looking at this thread. it seems to me that everyone is talking about company location, not paper quality. I don't see any arguments in any of these chat sessions about poor quality papers, the poor English skills of the company's writers, etc. it is a warning sign that they won't disclose a location-- and I'm pretty sure that's illegal, too, at least in the US; companies aren't entitled to privacy in this manner. but this isn't a quality issue, or a post about quality. you're making that association, and Harvard's question remains a good one.
OP pheelyks  
Jan 23, 2011 | #29
I don't know

I know you don't know. You said things that require knowledge for them to have any meaning, though, so it seemed to me like you didn't know that you don't know. If you actually did know that you don't know, you were either being an assh*le or an idiot by pretending to know, you know?

I'm just looking at this thread

how selective of you

this isn't a quality issue, or a post about qualit

I'm sorry. I didn't realize I needed to spell out the fact that lying about your company's location in order to convince customers that you are responsive to the US legal system (not to mention implying that you hire US writers, though this is not at all guaranteed even by companies that really DO have offices in the US) is highly correlated with poor quality papers. It is entirely possible that a company lies about its location even though it delivers a fantastic product because it is uncertain that the product will stand on its own. Of course, I don't know of any such company, but as soon as you find one let me know...

Harvard's question remains a good one

I thought you didn't know.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jan 23, 2011 | #30
sorry-- I was using "I don't know" as a sort of casual expression of doubt about your association-- I guess it ruffled your feathers, which wasn't my intention.
OP pheelyks  
Jan 23, 2011 | #31
ruffled your feathers

Not really. I was actually rather pleased to see you admit your ignorance for once, instead of plodding steadfastly on despite many signs to stop and turn around.
OP WritersBeware  
Jan 24, 2011 | #32
but this isn't a quality issue, or a post about quality. you're making that association, and Harvard's question remains a good one.

If you had a ******* clue, you would know that the quality issue has already been beaten to death in other threads. Just shut up.
smirk  - | 141  
Jan 24, 2011 | #33
they hire ESL writers with far-less-than-fluent English skills

not quite so. they hire everyone, but the prices offered discourage anyone, who can barely write or code from taking any job from them.

what an insane developer would spend two weeks designing and coding iphone app for 20 bucks?
d3d3_darr3n  - | 6  
Jan 24, 2011 | #34
So is the scam that they are off-shore and claiming to be native English speakers?

Of course they claim to be native English speakers, which again this is not the main issues, as the cases of English as 2nd language people could write excellently do exist.

If you read more posts around this forum, you will find the pattern of:
If you bug them when the deadline is over, they will give you lousy excuses and deliver you a ****** quality work after that.
And I think they will ignore you if your request is beyond their ability to produce a lousy work in 30 minutes time let say.

Or, using "changing the writer" to suit your needs again and again till the deadline is over, and deliver ****** draft, or nothing at all.

It's a freaking scam.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 24, 2011 | #35
Once, I had a serious communication with a scam company. To my "Don't you fear being defamed in the market", they stated they did not care as every day there were new customers, writers willing to join them.

I wonder how huge freedom of fraud/scam this virtual platform, the internet, has given to cheats, fraudsters, and cyber ruffians. As they don't exist physically, every day is a new day for them.

Any research on the complaints filed against such losers reveals that law-enforcement agencies are just scuffling with words rather than bringing some tangible measures against them as this is now an international affair.
smirk  - | 141  
Jan 24, 2011 | #36
they stated they did not care as every day there were new customers, writers willing to join them.

that's the fairest response they could provide

as given to cheats, fraudsters, and cyber ruffians. As they don't exist physically, every day is a new day for them.

they quite exist physically
2vdsl  - | 4  
Jan 29, 2011 | #37
yes he sure looks like from outside of us
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 25, 2021 | #38
These people aren't just liars but, very dumb ones at that.

The problem is that the whole basis of an internet business has lent itself to globalization. It is difficult to claim that the business is located in just one country or one location due to the very nature of the business. Like you said, the server can be in the USA, the client support in Kuwait, the writers, can be located in any point on the global map. So nobody can claim to have an actual business address anymore. The owners of these companies can claim to be in any location that they have an actual workforce in. Can we prove such a workforce exists? Sometimes we can, sometimes we can't. That, is the situation that academic writing companies find themselves existing in and that, is why it is easier for them to hide who and where they really are.
noted  6 | 1865 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 10, 2022 | #39
The company seems to have a dumbed down opening page that was written by obvious ESL writers. While their work may be suspicious to some, the owners have gone to great lengths to erase any suspicions that their potential client may have. One of their methods is to offer the interested party a "sample paper" from the assigned writer. The "draft" of the actual order can be provided to the client within 6 hours (or so they claim). I believe that this is being done to assure the client that a competent and reliable writer has been assigned to the paper, even before they receive payment. While other writers and companies do not offer this service, I can see reason behind this logic.

The idea is to show the client that the writer assigned has extensive knowledge on the topic and will be able to provide a useful short form of the paper to the client on short notice. This then becomes the basis of the student for hiring the service (or not). Not a bad way of doing business. The writer gets to prove his worth to the client. The client, gets an assurance that the writer that is assigned to the paper actually has working brain cells.

If you ask me, this is not a bad way of choosing the writing company and writer. Taking the writer fo a test drive ( I know he isn't a car, but he does offer a service that has qualifications involved), is not a bad thing. It makes good business sense on both ends. I am not saying all writers should do this. What I am saying is, it works in the current business model of things. It is not, a service all writers would be comfortable offering though and they should not do it, if they are not convinced they have to.

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