Superiorpapers Ripoff...Extension, Extension And Extension....

I did post the names of three I have applied to but I am applying to several others to make the test more evenly balanced.

So far I have applied to *********, ukessays, masterpapers (I known they are not based in America but the hypothesis I am testing is the kind of essays they would allow me to write and the otigins of the customers I can write for) essaybuy, and oxbridge.

replies so far have been from ********* and not unsurprisingly masterpapers (who will take anyone.)

Oxbridge sent an automated response saying they are considering my application.

Please post the replies.


I typed "more" in italics almost entirely in consideration of you.

I intend to post all the communications once I have successfully gained employment. there is no point in posting the replies requesting the details of my qualifications and my writing samples unless they go on to offer me work. If they do take me on as a writer I will be sure to let you know likewise if my applications are unsuccessful. After all I have nothing to gain from this in either way as I do not intend writing for any of them now or in the future, but it is an interesting experiment nevertheless.

Your experiment would have worked better if you did not publicly post about applying to the various sites until after you were accepted or rejected. Since this is an open forum, you do not know who could be reading this thread and could end up affecting the experiment's results.

I realised that after having decided to carry out this experiment. It was a rash decision based on having all attacks on non american or non english writing sites being reduced down to the facts that MOST of these scam sites are purportedly from the UKRAINE and ONLY employ ESL writers ergo their writing is substandard. (WB before you get your heckles up this is not a direct quote from anyone it is my reading of the posts on here that are constantly attacking non american sites or non UK sites).

I was hoping to prove that ALL sites will employ ESL writers and that american and UK sites are CAPABLE of scamming the customers by telling them that their writer will be from US or UK and in fact the writer COULD be an ESL writer.

You really can't prove that ALL sites will employ ESL writers unless you test ALL sites. Of course, any and all are CAPABLE of scamming, you don't need to test for that, but the fact that many choose not to is what's important. (No heckles up, just saying). You didn't pick any of the companies that I work for which is kinda disappointing but I look forward to your results, regardless.

The sun is CAPABLE of spontaneous implosion; therefore, we all COULD die tomorrow. You heard it here first, folks!

Now, let's all type about the evils of the sun, due to its CAPABILITIES.

If you go back to the first post of this thread, it was about the customer placing an order and not getting the paper in time and the company asking for more extensions. It is not really about ESL writers because this has nothing to do with the quality of the writing performed; they did not even start the work. The issue at hand is about the paper not being delivered on time.

It doesn't really matter where the company is located or what kind of writers they use, there will always be orders that are late because you are dealing with writers who are contractors and not employees. Since they do not get a regular paycheck, their earnings depends on the number of orders they complete. So what happens is, you get a writer who tries to maximize their earnings by taking on several orders, with the orders prioritized by the due dates so they will have a continuous amount of work. Then life happens and they miss one deadline, which affects the starting of the other orders and before they know it, they are monumentally screwed. Meanwhile, on the company's system, those particular orders are marked as assigned, so no other writer can take them, and if the first writer doesn't sign back on in time to release your order back into the pool, or if they release it too late for another writer to be able to finish the work in time, you are out of luck. And don't try telling me a reputable essay company will limit the number of orders a writer can take, because as a contractor, they will just sign up and work for several sites.

Agree with you. That is exactly how it happens.

Despite a solemn oath to never harm any living creature, a Buddhist monk is still CAPABLE of pummeling to death a kitten with his bare hands. That is a fact. Therefore, we must start a campaign against monks!

Move over, "hate crimes" . . . . The age of "capability crimes" is upon us!

As you pointed out it would be impossible to cover ALL sites, sorry I missed yours out I'll try harder next time lol

I am still applying to other sites just for a wider range of samples and once the results are in I will disclose all the ones I applied to and the results of the applications. This will obviously not give a definitive response as the results are limited by the samples chosen.

I beleive what ss is trying to do is a form of quota sampling where she non-randomly selects a variety of companies (ie ones known to employ ESL and ones less so) and bases a conclusion upon her findings. The advantage is this is the quickest and easiest way to gain a plausible insight. Obviously no one can prove beyond doubt that ALL sites employ ESL writers regardless of the number of tests.

I don't know of any reputable company that limits the amount of work that their employees take, once they have established themselves. The companies that I've worked for limit newbie writers until they prove themselves responsible and capable. Professional writers should be able to manage their time just like any other profession.

Now, to be fair, let's try to remember that the company that started this discussion is a well known fraud. The paper in question was 60 days late... that's 2 months! That isn't just a writer problem, that is, more significantly, a serious breakdown of customer services and management. Any respectable company would not let an assignment drag 60 days past the deadline without getting involved. Which is exactly why customers should seek out companies with excellent CS as well as qualified writers.

this site is about exposing scam sites. I am not, as you suggest, starting a campaign against essay writing sites because they are CAPABLE of scamming customers, I am aiming to prove that the location of the essay writing company does not determine whether they are a scam or not. I suggested that ALL such companies are CAPABLE of scamming the customers and IF i can persuade one of these so called REPUTABLE US or UK companies to employ me when I state I am an ESL writer and they let me write for UK or US students then they are guilty of the crime you are always going on about in respect of those companies NOT located in the UK or US.

IF SS finds out ********* hires ESL writers, which I doubt she will but I'll grant it's possible so far, that doesn't mean that all American companies hire ESL writers any more than if UKessays hires her, that means that all British companies do. That's all I'm saying.

I frankly have a really hard time believing that the companies I work for hire ESL writers to save money and still keep me working - if ESL writers were so cost effective, I wouldn't be run ragged with work over the last month.


Well, I certainly hope so. I've been recommending to other writers that they not work for only one company for months.

When writers work for several companies, it boosts the overall quality of the industry b/c it forces companies to compete for qualified talent, which means that they treat their writers better in the long run or they lose them. Happy writers translates into much happier customers b/c when writers actually care about their job, they produce better work. Everyone wins.

/hug free market

Well seeing as how SS's intentions are pretty much public property now, I wouldn't be surprised if the companies' PR folk who lurk this site (PeterParker et al) strongly suggest to their respective company's recruitment team not to hire anyone potentially ESL. SS unfortunatley your tests will probably be flawed. It's a shame as i'm sure nearly all would have accepted cheap ESL labour.

No doubt WB has already warned her boss at ********* against hiring anyone fishy (joke!)

Well, come on, honestly of course they are flawed. One can't focus upon one member of a representative group (1 American co, 1 UK co, 1 whatever co) and then attempt to draw generalizations.

Let me give you an example. SolidSnake you are from the UK and male right? WB, you are from the US and female right? From this data, I conclude that All Americans are female and all Brits are male.

Great scientific method, right there.

EDIT: I had to change SS to SolidSnake to differentiate from StrugglingStudent - seriously, you guys couldn't pick names with easy initials?
That's just rude.

Lavinia the more you post the more I find you actually quite funny.

Sorry, I'll try to stop that.

No please continue. A bit of light-hearted banter is always good especially when Frostat and Serene come across as so mind numbingly stupid.

You have proven, once again, two things:

1. you do not understand the issue at hand;

2. you do not have a firm grasp of my general positions.

To my knowledge, at no time have I or Lavinia ever stated that simply because a company is located in Ukraine (or any other country) it is inherently fraudulent. What I HAVE specifically stated--time and time again--is that the particular, foreign companies that LIE about being "American" and/or "British" simply to fool American and/or British consumers are fraudulent. Do you not understand that simple position?

You seem to suggest that I am bias in favor of American/British companies out of some sort of geographical bias. Sorry, you're wrong. The cold, hard fact of the matter is that I have NEVER come across an American- or British-owned essay company that LIES about its geographical location and/or writers' native tongue in order to FOOL customers of a particular, foreign country. On that note, I can state with almost 100% certainty that if I haven't come across such an American- or British-owned essay company in my long-time, extensive, ongoing studies of the industry, it simply does not exist. If you can provide me with evidence to the contrary, I guarantee you that I will use every tool at my disposal to TEAR THAT AMERICAN OR BRITISH COMPANY TO SHREDS.

Bottom line: don't blame me, Lavinia, or anyone else for justly pointing out to the public the true location of fraudulent operations. We don't have a gun pointed to the heads of the owners of SuperiorPapers.com, Essay-Paper.net, MasterPapers.com, Custom-Writing.org, etc., forcing them to deceive. I and others simply report the FACTS.

I consider it the height of comic praise to be complimented by a Brit. John Cleese was a visiting prof at my college and life was never quite the same. The country that produced The Black Adder and Monty Python can't be all bad.

Yes, but only AFTER having SECURED the evidence, not via baseless conjecture.


You're "sure," based on what evidence, exactly?

Bias

A particular tendency or inclination, esp. one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice.

Conjecture
The formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof; to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/conjecture

which is the entire point of my experiment ie to SECURE evidence that it is not only companies outside of the US and UK that employ ESL writers and that will assign work to ESL wroiters for US or UK customers.


Well hopefully my research will back up yours and then you get to [assert with even GREATER authority, however, if the contrary is proven then I await your stance on this issue.

quote=WritersBeware]don't blame me, Lavinia, or anyone else for justly pointing out to the public the true location of fraudulent operations. [/quote]

No one is blaming anyone for anything. I do think its is rather tiresome putting the location of these sites after every post saying its a scam. That is why it comes across that you are biased. Surely all anyone needs to know is that the site scams people ...end of! Unless people ACTUALLY state that the reason for picking that company was because of the location ie they thought it was in US or UK then there is surely no need to keep re-iterating the location. It becomes tedious to read and makes you appear as though you have a serious hang up with ukranians.

You haven't seen anyting yet. Youtube a show called Bottom. Pure comedy genius. Eat your heart out Friends and Seinfeld.

these ukranins sure do seem to love typing

Come to think of it, you are right. WB never referred to UK and US sites as such. Even though there is a probability that some scam sites also exist in those locations. I wonder why that is ? Perhaps the scams do not exist as companies in those areas but rather, as independent writers? That can't be right. Most of the scams can only exist in the long term as a company or companies.WB did avoid pinpointing any independent writers that are US based as scams as well. Maybe their tight knit group had an agreement about that in place and we weren't privy to it for obvious reasons.

It was the kind heart and rehance on a long cdeadline lead time that caused problems with this order. Just because the student knewhe had time, he let the company and writer be lax with his order. Never considering that the leeway provided was something he would not have taken for granted if he were writing the paper. He should have never allowed any extension time. That proved his order was of no value to the company either. He allowed himself to be treated with disrespect so he got the realment he deserved. Remember, extension requests area red flag. Never allow it.