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Ukessays.co.uk Complete waste of my time


Londoner27  1 | 2  
Feb 12, 2009 | #1
Hi everyone.I have been following this forum long time now bsc I was thinking of using an essay writing company for a dissertation proposal some time now.

Well I did...Boy did i regret it.I was SO impressed by their "alleged" excellent services and their press coverage so i said ok let me try it.I am talking off course about UKessays.co.uk.

Essays UKAt first it was all ok.Until i received my piece.It was crap completely.My initial instructions were completely ignored.I mean completely.I felt it was ******** piece so i didnt want to risk to work on this piece for my official submission and I said ok let me amend it properly and send it to my supervisor for his opinion...Boy did I regret this as well.My supervisor told me it was crap as it was non-specific.I mean the writer who allegedly holds a PhD in Psychology proposed a 1st year undergraduate research method.I mean come on my mother could write this piece provided she took a class or two in Psychology.

Anyhow i asked for amendments and I received them but again it was crap totally.The writer ignored all of the feedback i got from my supervisor.I mean come on...On top of that there was a guy "Peter" who was responding to my online questions who left me waiting for two days to tell me that they do not agree to do the amendments I asked bsc they feared that I will submit the work as is when i repeatedly told him that I want the piece so i will get an idea of how a complex research proposal on this area is formulated.

Anyhow.I asked for a refund and they gave me bs excuses (i.e word count or that the feedback from my supervisor are very specific and that i should have ordered a distinction piece).As you understand I got completely ridiculed in the eyes of my supervisor since I had no idea how to respond on his feedback after UKessays left me helpless.

For those interested my order number is :300517.I payed them loads of my hard earned money for ZERO result.I am furious.

Do i stand any chance if i take them to small claims court?I dont know what to do as I need my money since they failed to deliver.I don't like to be ignored when i specify something and they did not pay any attention to what i was telling.Nothing zero.
WritersBeware  
Feb 12, 2009 | #2
I was SO impressed by their "alleged" excellent services and their press coverage

Their "press coverage" is completely orchestrated by their shameless employees who contact newspapers to stir up controversy.
alice  1 | 61  
Feb 13, 2009 | #3
Londoner27,

This forum is full of complaints on UKessays, why did you decide to use them?
serene  
Feb 13, 2009 | #4
was a guy "Peter" who was responding to my online

Every essay company seems to own a Peter!
OP Londoner27  1 | 2  
Feb 13, 2009 | #5
This forum is full of complaints on UKessays, why did you decide to use them?

Bsc I dont know any other way to expose their BS service.

Now to my earlier question,does anyone know how this small claims court procedure goes?
exwriter  3 | 250  
Feb 14, 2009 | #6
I have sent you a private message so that you can contact me direct and I can advise you on procedure, as well as the possibility of success etc. Hopefully this will assist you in determining whether to pursue this course of action or not.

I figured it would be better to advise on a one to one basis as this forum is not really the right place to be discussing how to bring a claim etc and did not want to be accused of discouraging potential litigants by posting the pros and cons of claiming against these companies.
OP Londoner27  1 | 2  
Feb 14, 2009 | #7
thank you exwriter I shall be contacting you via email shortly.
amethyst  1 | 4  
Feb 18, 2009 | #8
Good to know....
new2009  - | 5  
Feb 24, 2009 | #9
me to the same happened with me i lost my money with this company god how was stupid am when i order with these crab
dreamer  
Feb 24, 2009 | #10
Why, oh, why do I get a feeling that I have read this language somewhere? It is Asif who supported Writemyessay!!!!! Same language! I can't believe it!! Is this eliminating a much better rival?
new2009  - | 5  
Feb 28, 2009 | #11
be careful from ukessays.co.uk[DND*] - kids work

they send me the work back it is nothing i just lost my money with them but now i would like to know how do i get my money back from them they say that you don't need to hand out the work to your school another think the work was with out interdiction and conclusion it is not an essay anyway it was a kids work

i need help to get my money back with these company anyone can help

no any information about what to do with ukessays this **** service
humble  2 | 247  
Feb 28, 2009 | #12
Always read the 'terms of service' before spending money.
Chargeback is the remedy :D
Merchants, particularly the fraudulent ones, have a very weak position when a customer files a 'Chargeback'
sophia  - | 1  
Dec 21, 2010 | #13

So who do we go and what do we look for, writinghelp.org.uk ; ukessays.co.uk?



I've got a tight deadline and due to illness i can't make it, but i can't get extenuating circumstances. I can't believe i was just about to 488 for an essay, that was going to be written by third world nationals, no offense but i mean in terms of ukranians etc. I would have got ripped off had i not found your site. Can someone please help me.

This WB guy are you a writer, your replies seem very sophisticated and apprehendable in contrast to a lot of junk i have seen. Can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks

does anyone know anything about writinghelp.org.uk. I spoke to someone on the phone, he sounded chinese; he was'nt fluent i english as such, but he did generally reply to my answers in the best way he could. He took me through a step by step guide on the internet via and showed me how it would work and etc. Created an account allowed me to login and etc. but when i asked him the company address he said fr privacy reasons he could not. but gave me a general location. Now im not sure what i should do.

How about ukessays.co.uk. They say it may be a british site, base in nottingham, provides a vat registration number and address?
kichaachadog  - | 2  
Dec 28, 2010 | #14
I AM WARNING ALL USERS THIS WEBSITE IS A SCAM,I ORDER FOR MY WORK BUT WHAT I RECEIVE IS RUBBISH,AND IT DOESNT ANSWER THE QUESTION,THEY COPY EVERYTHING FROM en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application_server,FROM FIRST WORD TO LAST,THAT MEANS I WAS GOING TO GET 0 AND PRAGIARISM WHEN I TRY TO PHONE THEM FOR ALL DAY THE HANG THE CALLS, WHEN I MANAGE TO TALK TO THEM IS JUST TAKE A MICK AND TRY TO SPEAK LIKE IS DRUNK &IN AMERICA ACCENT. I DONT KNOW IF I WILL GET A REFUND BECAUSE I JUST SEARCH IN GOOGLE AND FIND OUT educationsp.com IS GOT LOTS OF RIP-OFF REPORT **********SO BEWARE YOU DONT WANT TO BE ANOTHER VICTIMS**********
WritersBeware  
Dec 28, 2010 | #15
Turn off the damn CAPS lock! What is this, 2001? Sophia: Recommendations are not allowed, so try essaychat.com . See if someone will pick up your order there.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 26, 2021 | #16
this forum is not really the right place to ...against these companies.

On the contrary, you did the students here a disservice. It was important that, at the time of the posting, you shared the information with the students. That is because this sort of scam doesn't happen only once and is not exclusive to a single company. Filing a claim in court may be the last resort for students who feel duped by the chargeback system or the non-refund policy of these companies. How I wish I had come across this post at the right time so that I could have convinced you to share the information openly.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 02, 2022 | #17
The website is finally back online. This time, they claim to have evidence of their company actually existing as a legal business entity in the UK. There are problems with their claims though. First, anybody can register an overseas company in another country or, make up the information based on openly available samples. Will double checking the credentials of their business registration help the students? Yes, but seriously, will any student bother to actually spend to triple check the information? Second, they posted a Google Earth photo of their "location". Note that this is an aerial view with streetmarkings, but no actual office space being shown with the company name. There is no proof that their office actually exists at the UK location they have chosen to use. Are they really existing at that address? Don't bet your Google location map on it.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 09, 2023 | #18
@noted, I'm a little confused... unless I've misunderstood, @a1writer said I might like this company and previously, you encouraged me to consider his recommendations. But I'm seeing quite a lot of negative reviews and your last post here makes me more concerned about their forthrightness. How do you feel about this company overall?
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 09, 2023 | #19
@SeekingLawPapers
I was also confused by the company location ang Google Earth presentation at first. I have seen companies located in the middle of a reservoir when I trace the address. But @a1writer has explained that further research on the company page lists its current actual location in the Middle East. Information I could not access at the time due to my limited capacity to view areas of the website.

So, I cannot make an accurate comment about the company at this time. Not when I am still locked out of accessing other parts of the site beyond the anchor page. I can only access cached pages via search engines, which may be old page references that are no longer valid at present.

Yes, companies do purchase fictitious addresses overseas as a location. As do freelancers. Neither can be fully trusted unless you have done your own due diligence. I stand by what I wrote above because it is public information. However, I also acknowledge that there may have been limitations to my knowledge at the time that affected the references I made in my comment.

I asked you to consider the advice of @a1writer simply because he has proven to be highly and accurately knowledgeable when it comes to UK based writing companies and how to avoid the pitfalls of the UK anti essaymill law . The final choice however is all up to you.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 09, 2023 | #20
Precisely what kind of due diligence would you recommend I do as a new customer? The only concrete advice I've been given is to try UKEssays, along with some rather perplexing guidance to trust only the reviews they themselves have published, but also not to really trust any reviews at all. Meanwhile, most everything I've read about UKEssays, including on this thread, does not inspire much confidence.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 09, 2023 | #21
@SeekingLawPapers
Talk to their representatives, regardless of which company or writer you deal with. Being a student of Law, surely you will want hard facts backed up by evidence of any claims made by the company with regards to their writer's qualifications and skills. You have acumen when it comes to this because of your own educational background. Make sure your writer actually has a degree in UK Law rather than US or any other country's law. The educational background must be relevant to your needs.

Guard yourself by asking about the intellectual property rights as well. Make sure you ask questions that lead up to their potential to blackmail you in the future. These are the things that came off the top of my head. I am sure you can run and build upon these suggested inquiries.

There are companies that do not allow their writers to write papers outside of their actual undergraduate and graduate certifications. I suggest you look for and inquire from those companies instead since you have apprehensions about @a1writer recommendations. Those companies deal with UK based writers only as well. They are listed on Google and here at this forum through various threads as well.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #22
@noted
Thanks. Very wise advice for @SeekingLawPapers.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 09, 2023 | #23
The trouble is, I'm not seeing much positive or recent mention of any other UK-based essay companies on the forum, but I'll keep searching.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #24
Precisely what kind of due diligence would you recommend I do as a new customer?

If you're dealing with an independent freelance writer, your first step might be to simply ask the person to provide his full name and (ideally) a (landline) phone #. Once you have the person's name, you can do your own independent search; and the landline provides a relatively reliable means of verifying that the person is actually located wherever he says he's located. In my case, the simplest Google search of my name + US Department of Health & Human Services Inspector General (or just HHS-OIG) would allow you to confirm for yourself, and without taking my word for anything, that highly complex samples of my professional executive writing are available right on the official US Government agency website displaying my full name as the "Writer/Editor." When prospective clients contact me directly, I also provide them the means to independently verify my Law degree with the Alumni Affairs Office of my law school, as well as a link to 350 of my old essays still being sold (and disclosed as being pre-written projects all displaying their dates of submission) by one of the essay companies for which I used to write before transitioning to complete independence. Incidentally, the advice never to trust any writer with "only" a US Law degree to write a UK Law project is nonsense, as is the same advice pertaining to allowing a writer to provide projects in any academic area other than his own degree areas. I never took a single course in Public Administration as an undergrad, and only a single course in Administrative Law in law school; I never took a single course related to healthcare policy (or auditing), either. Nevertheless, HHS-OIG still hired me over roughly 400 other applicants for that job, on the basis of my performance on their writing test and my writing samples. Even that is verifiable independently, without taking my word for anything, because one of the applicants who didn't get my job sued the agency for discrimination and my deposition about the facts and circumstances of my being hired, and about my qualifications for the job are public record and available online, as well.

Does all of that guarantee that I can write your project as well as you hope? No, not by itself; that's merely the first step in your due diligence to make sure that I am exactly who I say I am, that I'm really located in NYC, that I really did obtain my JD in US Law, that I wrote many essays for large American essay companies for many years, and that I really was a Writer/Editor for a very large US federal agency. After that, your second step, whether with me or with any other freelance writer or essay company, would be to actually order a very small project with a long due date. Leave enough time to redo it yourself or to try another provider in case the first piece of work that you receive isn't up to your expectations. As a UK student, you should already be very familiar with plagiarism scanners. So, your third possible step might be to scan the first piece of work that you receive from any provider to see whether any part of it has been copied or otherwise improperly "derived" from any source other than whatever source is cited in your project. If the first piece of work that you receive from any writer meets your standards and is entirely original writing, you're probably pretty safe ordering longer projects (or the rest of any test project) from that writer.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #25
@SeekingLawPapers
Don't just rely on this forum.

Precisely what kind of due diligence would you recommend I do as a new customer?

You avoid anyone who has a qualification from the USA for starters as you won't receive any original content. I'm sure you can sense desperation from the blatant touting for business directly above this post. The same person who thinks it is correct to say 'right on queue' instead of 'right on cue.' I don't think I need to say anything else.

Please PM when you can so I can give you some important information before you make a decision.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 09, 2023 | #26
@a1writer thanks, I've sent a PM by clicking on your profile... I think I followed the right steps but please let me know if not.

@FreelanceWriter thanks very much for the detailed advice. That all makes a great deal of sense for getting assurances.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #27
@SeekingLawPapers
Yes received it thanks and have sent you one. I don't think you will regret engaging a British writer qualified in English law. It is the sensible option.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 11, 2023 | #28
I'm sure you can sense desperation from the blatant touting for business directly above this post.

I'm not the one begging anybody to PM me, nor have I tried to PM him, which Admin can easily confirm. The information that I posted above provides a perfectly sensible objective approach for vetting any independent writer. However, it only works with writers who have no reason to hide their full identities from their own clients.

Please PM when you can so I can give you some important information before you make a decision.

I'm not the one who ever had any reason not to share my complete ID information, including my home address and phone number, with any of my clients, either. I just draw the line at posting it publicly for anybody and everybody to see, including anybody with such tremendous jealousy-based animosity towards me that he's devoted himself to defaming me for many months, despite never having seen any project that I've ever written.

I wouldn't be so stupid as to give any client my home address.

(Post #10) https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/avoid-dishonest-clients-3489/#msg86211

My clients have only gratitude and appreciation for my work; so, I've never had a problem disclosing my identity or address to them.

(Post #11)
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2023 | #29
.....including anybody with such tremendous jealousy-based animosity towards me that he's devoted himself to defaming me for many months.....

If you think I have defamed you please sue me. The jealousy argument is pathetic since I am no longer writing despite your attempts to persuade people otherwise.

Rational people will not see me as 'begging' anyone to send me a PM. Anyway, I am not the one touting for work so I'm not trying to prey on someone who needs unbiased assistance from someone who knows the British education system, which you do not.

The post from you is self-serving, all about you. Apart from the valid argument I have made about British qualifications from a British university, I am at liberty to warn British students about someone who thinks 'right on queue' is grammatically correct. Surely you could check 3 words in 12 minutes.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 14, 2023 | #30
Hello all, I just wanted to post a thank-you to all who contributed, and a quick update. I've found a writer and I'll report back about how it goes, whether good or bad. Hoping for the best, of course, but I hope to give details that may be helpful to other people in a similar position who come across the forum in the future.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 14, 2023 | #31
@SeekingLawPapers
I'm glad to hear we were able to help guide you with your writer search. I hope you found someone who can really be of help to you. We are all looking forward to reading your update. It will help both the students and active writers at this forum. I wish you only the best of luck with your paper!
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 15, 2023 | #32
Another quick update with many thanks for those who offered input. I'm frankly thrilled so far, as I've gotten my first order from Freelancewriter, and almost a full day earlier than promised, even though the deadline was only 3 days. At first glance, it reads brilliantly. I wanted to test him out with a short but challenging assessment I had due soon, and I'm incredibly relieved, to say the least. I intend to leave a full review soon after he delivers the remaining ~4,500 words next week. Again, many thanks to everyone for helping me navigate my first steps, but I feel that I've undoubtedly found the right person for the work I need.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 15, 2023 | #33
@SeekingLawPapers

I am pleased that you had a good work experience with him. Now, make sure you get his clearance to leave a review here first. He hates it when people leave honest and glowing reviews of his work. He has the admin delete it as soon as he sees it for pricing reasons with future clients. It may also be seen as an endorsement of his services, which is against the rules of this forum. He is only allowed to personally advertise his services as he pays for that privilege. He might even have this short but positive review you left deleted for the same reasons. So clear it with him first. Unless he instructed you to leave this review in the first place so it stands to reason that he has given you clearance for a second glowing review as well.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 15, 2023 | #34
Thank you for your trust, SLP. I really appreciate it.

He hates it when people leave honest and glowing reviews of his work. He has the admin delete it as soon as he sees it for pricing reasons with future clients.

Here's where I last responded to this exact same foolishness, and in great detail, most recently:
https://essayscam.org/forum/gt/covid-impact-academic-writing-6579/#msg85855

And here's the original thread to which you're referring, totally dishonestly, (yet again), right where it's always been:
https://essayscam.org/forum/es/experience-nycfreelancewriter-6683/

The only thing that I ever asked Admin to "delete" from it was the price that the client had originally included in the review. Aside from the fact that what you're suggesting makes absolutely no sense, how many more times are you going to continue repeating the exact same senseless lie, even after I provide the link directly to the original thread that was never "deleted" and that remains right where it was originally posted?

It may also be seen as an endorsement of his services, which is against the rules of this forum.

He is only allowed to personally advertise his services as he pays for that privilege.

Actually, you have that exactly backwards: Customers have always been allowed to leave genuine public reviews of writers and essay companies, and there are dozens of threads and hundreds of such posts all over this forum. Paying to advertise is what allows advertisers to promote our own services, directly, which non-advertising writers and companies are prohibited from doing. That's why I choose to advertise here.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 16, 2023 | #35
I intend to leave a full review soon after he delivers the remaining ~4,500 words next week

This sounds very much like he is writing the essay for you from scratch.
I hope you realise this is in breach of the Skills and Post-16 Education Act 2022. Enforcement authorites will be scrutinising forums like this to identify law breakers.

He won't give any warning to you about not handing the work in as your own. He has boasted on here that his clients can use the work as they see fit. Tinkering with a few phrases here and there does not make the work your own. He doesn't care that he is breaking the law. Just thought I'd warn you.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 16, 2023 | #36
@a1writer thanks very much for your concern. Like most any student in the UK, especially a law student, I'm quite well aware of that law. FreelanceWriter indicated that I now exclusively own the work, but he was quite clear in his recommendation that I use it only as a model for my own writing, not as a submission for marking.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 16, 2023 | #37
@SeekingLawPapers @a1writer
I for one am pleased to see that he finally adjusted his recommendation for the paper use to the students. As we have been suggesting he do all along. Maybe he now does actually care about how the paper is used. I am sure @SeekingLawPapers will develop a good original paper from the model he will be receiving.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 17, 2023 | #38
@noted
@SeekingLawPapers
I probably haven't made the legal position clear so I will try again.
Just about every independent writer and essay company apart from FreelanceWriter had extensive caveats about students not handing in the work as their own. His position has not changed Noted. He gives the weakest of caveats and then says clients can do what they like with the work without any sanctions. He is encouraging cheating and nothing has changed.

However so far as the British essay writing industry is concerned, any caveat/disclaimer/warning is now totally irrelevant.
It is against the law to even advertise essay writing services as well as writing the essay. Unfortunately many students pass the work off as their own and this is what the British govenment is trying to stop. To be clear, writing model essays is unlawful. It really is that simple.

I am off out again now and will elaborate on this post when I return.
noted  7 | 2009 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 17, 2023 | #39
@a1writer
Duly noted on my end and I am looking forward to your expanded explanation upon your return. I am eager to learn more about this law and how it is applied since it seems to be selectively covering certain areas of the UK only? Did I understand right?
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 17, 2023 | #40
He won't give any warning to you about not handing the work in as your own.

Nonsense. (Confirmed by my client in Post # 36, of this thread.)

FreelanceWriter indicated that I now exclusively own the work, but he was quite clear in his recommendation that I use it only as a model for my own writing, not as a submission for marking.

I for one am pleased to see that he finally adjusted his recommendation for the paper use to the students. As we have been suggesting he do all along.

Also nonsense.

He is encouraging cheating...

Complete fabrication.

I haven't "adjusted" anything. Obviously, neither of you has ever been privy to any of my private communications with my clients, the content of which has never changed with respect to my recommendations about how they should use my work. Your accusations to the contrary, that I "encourage" my clients to submit my work for academic credit, repeated ad nauseam on this forum, are nothing but completely baseless fabrications derived purely from your very convoluted and deliberately disingenuous mischaracterizations of my stated policy to transfer exclusive copyrights to my work to my clients, which continues to be the case.

The two issues (1. copyrights and 2. recommended use of my work) have absolutely nothing to do with one another. I relinquish copyrights to my work simply because I have always believed that it's the right thing to do. Anytime someone commissions me to write something, the client always owns the copyright to my work, exclusively; and irrespective of whether it's a business client ordering a white paper or a veterinarian ordering web copy for his practice's customer blog, or a student ordering an academic project. If you pay me to write it for you, you own it, entirely and exclusively.

What I have said is simply that prospective clients should always read the TOS of any essay company they might be considering before making their decisions, because most commercial essay companies expressly refuse to transfer (or even share) copyrights with their customers. Instead, some of them actually state, specifically, that they reserve the right to contact their customers' academic institutions to "protect" their copyrights, anytime they suspect any violation of their TOS. They grant nothing more than a "license" to their clients to "study" and "cite" their work as "sources" in their clients' own work.

If you two want to help this forum function as a mechanism to enable students hoping to find reliable essay providers, you should focus your efforts on helping them identify and avoid the myriad scam companies and fraudulent writers who provide either nothing, or nothing but copy/pasted garbage, or incomprehensible ESL "writing," and/or who use their clients' information to blackmail them. That would be infinitely better for this forum than continuing a very personal totally dishonest disinformation campaign to try to steer clients away from the longest-active writer on this forum to whom many clients and competitors and former competitors alike have all referred many times as the best and most reliable writer any of them has ever known. While I understand this truth might be very frustrating to you and injurious to your ego and self-image, it is not appropriate to lash out this way as a response. The only thing you're doing is making it more difficult for students to find a great writer when one is already right within their reach as soon as they find this forum.




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