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UKessays - hiring them is like taking a gamble


uStudent  1 | 1   Student
Jul 29, 2014 | #1
UKEssays -I have been their client for the past year or so, placed orders worth £1000+, mainly for essays varied in word count between 1000- 2500 words. I always ordered 2:1 standard and the marks I received were as follows: 60, 52, 52, 53, 53, 66, 65.

They claim on their website that they guarantee the standard and will refund in full, if it's not achieved. This is not true they will tell you they think the essay was up to standard in their opinion and thrighten you with legal action for copyright, after you email scanned copy and if it looks the same. And tell you you should submit your own based on what they wrote. Silly, then how they can offer a guarantee then? That's another nonsense.

They say each work goes through review by experts, but one of the essays I ordered was a critical review of the paper and my tutors feedback was that I had poor understanding and instead of covering the basic I covered things that don't make sense. Even though I send them scanned copy of the tutors feedback they did not refund me at all. They offered a diffrence in price between 2:2 and 2:1 (essay was 286) they offered 60 pounds back, which made me angry and I refused.

For me hiring them during 3rd year of Uni was a gamble not worth taking. The same gamble I would take if I would write it myself. I am not English but do well on exams and essays that you write at home is where I struggle the most :(
Fraternal  - | 5  
Jul 29, 2014 | #2
Stop gambling with your education and contact a trusted writer
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 30, 2014 | #3
It's nice that you got a raw deal; why do you hand in papers written by someone else?
If you're too dumb to write up your own essays, you rightfully deserve to be pulled up and kicked out of the university. You're knowingly debasing university education and you've got the kidneys to engage in accusatory, self-righteous whines?

I wish the self-aggrandizing Barclay and his pontifical, mercantile decoys at UK Essays can report you to your university.
OP uStudent  1 | 1   Student
Aug 01, 2014 | #4
Queen Sheeba people write about you on other posts that you are a psycho as you must of earned this reputation somehow I should not even waste a second to reply to you but it made me wonder why my post hurt you so much that you couldn't even comment on those grades and preferred to insult n send threats instead?
Studydum  - | 2   Student
Mar 22, 2016 | #5
I thought I'd hire Ukessays, but after reading their copyright page I don't think it's a good idea because:

1. They don't allow copyright transfer (when I buy a custom research paper from them I have no rights to it whatsoever, maybe except they allow me to read it and reference it).

2. They write? "The Agency agrees that all Work supplied through its service will not be resold, or distributed, for remuneration or otherwise after its completion. The Agency also undertakes that Work will not be placed on any website or essay bank after it has been completed."

That means if I order an article to post on my blog for my readers to read, I am not allowed to do that. If I'm paying so much money per page, I'm not allowed to do anything!? Too bad, I'm out. I prefer to order from a good freelancer and then I can do whatever I want and I can publish the work under my own name on my own blog.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 22, 2016 | #6
In your case, hiring an experienced freelancer would probably be the best way to go (some people here would argue it may be illegal to 'transfer copyright,' but I'm still not persuaded that's the truth). One way or another, if you pay a lot of money for a piece of paper you should be able to do whatever you want with it (as long as your actions don't violate any laws or legally-binding agreements); if someone tells you otherwise, you should probably consider other options, like buying a pre-written paper and using it as a starting point to your own research and writing.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 23, 2016 | #7
some people here would argue it may be illegal to 'transfer copyright,'

That would be a ridiculous argument. Copyright is fully transferrable (whether for value or gratuitously) just like most other forms of tangible and intangible personal property. In fact, even totally legitimate essay companies put an explicit clause right in their contracts with freelancers whereby writers agree to transfer their copyright in their work to the essay company. Some states do prohibit knowingly providing work that the customer intends to submit for academic credit, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright ownership or transferability.
Studydum  - | 2   Student
Mar 23, 2016 | #8
British WriterThank you for answering my inquiry. It took me two nights to figure out what's going on with this UKessays service. It was mind boggling to me that students would post their work just like that, for free, on their site. Students who order these services don't want to have much to do with them, believe me ;). I visited ukessays.com/essays/ and they write, quote:

Below you will find a collection of over 300,000 essays that have been provided by students in order to help you with your own studies.

All our free essays are supplied by students as learning resources for other students. If you see an essay on our website that belongs to you and you do not want it published anymore, then we can remove it for you.


I thought to myself - dude, I know nobody who would post their own work for free to use by other students. Then I noticed Ukessay is part of a bigger company that owns an anti-plagiarism tool: Viper (scanmyessays.com). I run my own blog so this stuff is interesting to me, I sometimes used copyscape to find out if my content was copied by others. Anyway I went to this scanmyessays site and found this, quote:

When you scan an essay, we'll take your essay and add it to our database so that future scans that you or other people make can be compared to it. Nobody has access to this database and if part of your essay matches another essay, other people cannot see your work - they only see a percentage match. Aside from that, 9 months after your scan, we will automatically add it to our student database and it will be published on one of our study sites to allow other students to use it as an example of how to write a good essay.

scanmyessay.com/viper-use-essay.php

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So here is what UkEssays / ScanMyEssays do:

1. They attract students to check their essays for plagiarism by using their "free tool" on Scanmyessay page. Students being stupid and lazy don't know the tool is useless (student can use turnitin student version for free if they like).

2. They store the checked essay in their database.

3. They publish the essay on Ukessays website as their own content. This is very important for them because they get FREE content (normally they would have to pay freelance writers at least 0.05 per word as I pay) which helps them stay alive in Google and other search engines. Imagine, they have millions of words of FREE content (the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more) and students who wrote the content gets nothing in return.

4. They lie that "nobody has access to this database" - in fact, billions of Internet users do have access to content on their own search page. All of the essays in their database are indexed in Google so how they can claim nobody has access to them?

5. On UkEssays website they lie by omission (they don't reference scanmyessay site in their TOS / Disclaimer).

My advice to students - read the fine print. Don't give away your work for free.

Regarding copyright - you're right, there is no provision in law that prohibits transfer - it's a red herring at best.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 24, 2016 | #9
Maybe that's one of the reasons why freelance writers, in general, have less jobs; corporations don't hire them because they have content created for free (typically using unethical and dishonest means)...
Kyleharris123  - | 45  
Mar 26, 2016 | #10
I've used them too, about a year ago. Surprisingly, they did a pretty good job all around. The only problem I had with them is that the prices were a bit high. I suppose that's not necessarily their fault. They charge in pounds, which are worth more than dollars.

All in all, not such a bad experience, just wish they were located in the U.S. Maybe prices would have been better that way.

Has anybody used these guys lately? Since the market is declining, I am wondering if their prices have gone down.

I am looking for a company that can get me As for much less than what they charged me when I used them.

Is there a way to find out if their prices declined without actually going through the trouble of submitting the order? I don't want to do that, as they ask me to pay up-front.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Mar 28, 2016 | #11
Dude, seriously, are you on drugs?
Kyleharris123  - | 45  
Mar 28, 2016 | #12
I am like everybody else here. I just want good grades for fair prices. A lot of the essay mills I know are kinda ******, but a few are okay. I've been going from one to another for a while and wish I could find one that I could stick with.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Nov 08, 2020 | #13
Never hire a writing company that does not transfer the copyright of the work to the student. The reason you are hiring a writer is to have a paper to submit for a grade in the first place. So hiring a writer to complete an original paper at a premium price, that you cannot use for a grade, doesn't make any sense. Hiring a writing service is all about the convenience of getting a grade, without the hassle of having to do the legwork yourself. Don't be a fool!
ninjawarrior  - | 206  
Nov 08, 2020 | #14
If a company or a representative tells you it's okay to hand in your essay directly, or promises you a certain grade, that is illegal in the US/UK. Therefore, they are either a criminal, or located elsewhere (likely a place where the standards of academic English are a little more ambiguous than you'd prefer as a customer).
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 08, 2023 | #15
Is it common for essay services to put their papers in public databases? I found this post because I am trying to learn the industry so I can choose a safe writer/company and I have not heard of this before. Hopefully there are options where they guarantee that the work does not get shared with anyone else?
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 08, 2023 | #16
To paraphrase the title, what you want to do is a gamble. The company and the writer can tell you one thing, promise that the paper will not be published anywhere else, then do the exact opposite after the deal has been completed. This all boils down to a matter of being able to trust the company or independent writer. If you have read the previous new threads in this forum, you will know that the problem these days is no longer about the publication of the essays, it is about how the company and writer will blackmail you down the road. There is a much bigger gamble at stake now with regards to your educational future. So hire a company or writer only if one or both of them manage to instill believable trust and confidence within you.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 08, 2023 | #17
...the problem these days is no longer about the publication of the essays, it is about how the company and writer will blackmail you down the road.

Blackmail is exclusively the domain of essay companies and writers operating anonymously and/or outside of First-World criminal jurisdiction. It is a very serious crime in every US state, particularly when it's perpetrated online, which makes it a serious federal crime, as well. That's why one of the best ways to protect yourself is to simply use a writer who advertises right here, on this forum. The forum owners have every advertiser's complete ID info, including our full legal names and our actual street addresses. If any of us were ever to be reported to them for having perpetrated such a crime against any client, they'd simply provide law enforcement authorities all of our info on request, making it an extremely short-lived criminal enterprise. Your only risk of being blackmailed is by doing business with essay companies and/or anonymous writers doing business outside of the reach of local law enforcement authorities.
SeekingLawPapers  - | 19   Student
Feb 09, 2023 | #18
I confess I hadn't even considered the possibility of blackmail. @Freelancewriter, your explanation seems to make sense. Then again, there has been some suggestion on other threads that the actual locations of some websites are unclear or disputed?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #19
@Freelancewriter, your explanation seems to make sense.

Obviously, the mere fact that a company or writer pays to advertise here is not, by itself, any guarantee of how good their work will be. However, what it does guarantee is that the real identity of the paying advertiser is known to the administrators of this forum. Their payment form required my full name and street address, which also had to match the information on my credit card, just for the transaction to go through. So, if nothing else, the one thing you can be sure of is that nobody located in the US who pays to advertise here could possibly ever hope to engage in any kind of blackmail without being prosecuted for it criminally on the very first attempt. Anonymity and/or being located overseas and far outside the reach of US (or UK) law are the main tools relied upon by blackmailers.

Then again, there has been some suggestion on other threads that the actual locations of some websites are unclear or disputed?

Whenever you do business with a company whose location is really just a POB in Dubai or elsewhere in the UAE, any recourse in the event that they don't fulfill their promises is entirely dependent on the laws and courts of those very remote jurisdictions, which is usually spelled out quite clearly right in their TOS. I've specifically asked "a1writer" why UKessays has chosen to do business from a POB in the UAE; but the only response I've received, to date, was along the lines of it being none of my business. Personally, I'd also be very wary of doing business with any entity (in any industry) whose enterprise name and url imply that it is located in the US or in the UK, if it's actually located in and/or registered in the UAE.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Feb 09, 2023 | #20
I've specifically asked "a1writer" why UKessays has chosen to do business from a POB in the UAE; but the only response I've received, to date, was along the lines f it being none of my business.

It is nobody's business why they have located to UAE. Why on earth do you expect me to know? It is a stupid question asked of someone who has no affiliation to the company. As for remoteness of jusrisdiction, that also applies to the USA where you are based.

FreelanceWriter 'Personally, I'd also be very wary of doing business with any entity (in any industry) whose enterprise name and url imply that it is located in the US or in the UK, if it's actually located in and/or registered in the UAE'. UKEssays have their registered UAE address at the bottom of each page on their website. They are not trying to be dishonest or conceal this fact.

They are not blackmailers either. They also abide by UK essay writing laws which you do not.

One thing about UKEssays is that their writers know about English grammar and that "right on queue" is gramatically incorrect. lol




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