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Jacky Chen  1 | 1  
Feb 14, 2008 | #1
I am just wanting to know if people think it better using the essay writing service or essay databases?

I know there are lot of those essay writing sites, it also is seem cheap to use essay banks. I found essay banking was good for typical students. If I use a writing site even like the cheapest it will be nearly 100 plus.

What do people think?
WritersBeware  
Feb 14, 2008 | #2
Is that a serious question?

essay banks = hot garbage
pious  - | 69  
Feb 15, 2008 | #3
Is that a serious question?

Yes, are you serious Jacky Chen? Essay banks carry USED essays. Do you actually intend to use a paper as model essay?
OP Jacky Chen  1 | 1  
Feb 15, 2008 | #4
Yes, I know what you mean but, if I want to use a cheapish essay writing site pay 100 and then i dont know if they will send me original work. If i use the essaybank it will give me ideas and it wont cost me as much and at least i am knowing where the work is from than to worry the work is copied from somewhere and only pay 4.99

Logical?
pious  - | 69  
Feb 15, 2008 | #5
Actually, it's more than logical. It's laudable. Students should really try to make their own essays. By picking up some ideas from used essay and then writing your own original paper, you get to save and LEARN.
Lavinia  4 | 495 ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 15, 2008 | #6
jacky, if all you are looking for is ideas, i don't know why you'd bother to pay for the cheap, ready made essays anyway. there are plenty of free sites and discussion points to help give ideas, whether you look on the net, in electronic databases, or books.
karl_johnson  - | 4  
Mar 06, 2008 | #7
What is better, using a cheap site that you can get to custom writer for you for say 9.99 or paying 9.99 for access to a essay bank site?
WritersBeware  
Mar 06, 2008 | #8
If the site charges less than $16 per page for custom writing, it is almost certainly a foreign site that uses ESL writers. Be prepared to edit your paper about 15 times due to improper word use and grammar.
FrostatMidnight  1 | 125  
Mar 07, 2008 | #9
Yes, you have to pay much more for a genuine, grade bringing essay.
Smarty  - | 2  
Mar 07, 2008 | #10
Essay BankI'm a Masters student and throughout my studies, I've bought many pre-written papers. I have used several companies but after comparing the quality of the papers I purchased one company seemed better than the others and chose to use them.

I will not recommend which company so as to comply with forum guidelines.

I usually buy 3 or 4 papers for each of my assignments as I find it really helpful. They give me the information I need and saves a lot of researching time as they provide the references with each paper so it makes a good article easily accessible.

As long as you use the papers as a guideline to write your own paper and do not copy from it, you are not plagiarising, it's merely another resource.

I believe reading a pre-written paper on the same topic as the one I am required to complete saves me around 50% of my time when researching and writing. I would recommend other students to use pre-written papers.

In fact, this was even recommended to me by my University Professor!

Smarty :)
corvus  - | 22  
Mar 08, 2008 | #11
Essay databases are only good for getting ideas for your own paper. They are the most cost effective solution when your teacher gives general topics because in a database of tens of thousands of papers, it is highly likely there are several papers to provide ideas.

Custom writing comes into play when your teacher gives an assignment with very specific requirements that may not be available in a prewritten paper. Whether to choose a company that has cheaper prices but uses foreign writers or one that uses english writers depends on what you plan to do with the paper. If you plan to use the paper as a model for your own work, grammar, word usage, or spelling mistakes will not matter as long as the writer fulfills the assignment requirements. If you are going to turn in the paper as your own work, you should ask yourself how much your grade is worth.
waraabe  - | 4  
Mar 27, 2011 | #12
my friends I have no mere information about this please each and every one of you should try to send me what he knows than me because I said is I new in this page
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 23, 2021 | #13
@Jacky Chen If you are the type of student who just needs a little help in getting started with your writing, then the essay databank will be the most useful to you. Those are previously written essays based on your specific topic. It can help you better understand what you have to write about and how. It also gives you useful leads in terms of academic sources. However, if you are an unskilled writer who needs help with everything, then maybe paying to get an original paper will be your best bet. Just make sure to choose a non-scam company or verified independent writer for this task.
Alex587  2 | 15   Student
Apr 23, 2021 | #14
Jackei chan.... ? lolzz
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 13, 2022 | #15
Essay writing banks will definitely help any student who wishes to write the essay himself. Since students are normally left to their own devices when it comes to writing their papers (which is why the academic writing business exists), most of them are confused about how to write these various papers. If a student has pretty decent writing skills, then having a true model paper, that shows them how the work is done, will do the trick. Use an essay bank.

The essay writing services should only be used as a last resort by students who have no talent for writing or, students whose real time / real life responsibilities make it difficult for them to even try their hand at writing the paper. Hire a writer only if you are convinced that you won't make that deadline without extra help.

Try to avoid being too reliant on writing services because that defeats the purpose of being in school and doing research work. What is that purpose? To enhance the learning experience through various readings leading to the development of the analytical and critical thinking mindset in a student.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 21, 2022 | #16
No student should ever waste money on prewritten essays. Most professors will be more than happy to provide previous "A" essays as samples of exactly what they're looking for if you plan on using prewritten essays for assistance writing your own essay.
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 21, 2022 | #17
Professors do not advise using the presubmitted papers in their university database because of the tendency to "accidentally" plagiarize previous student's work. However, the school library may also have some exemplary research papers on file as written by university students, and published in journals as articles. They may ask the librarian, rather than the professor for those. These may be used as actual reference points in their new research papers and essays. The universities do their best to avoid any case of accidental plagiarism on the part of the new students and that includes previous papers being accidentally paraphrased. Published work though, is considered a legal and academic reference due to the publishes nature of the student's work.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 23, 2022 | #18
Professors do not advise using the presubmitted papers in their university database because of the tendency to "accidentally" plagiarize previous student's work.

Then, why do they often hand out examples of good essays from previous students (or provide them on request)?

However, the school library may also have some exemplary research papers on file as written by university students, and published in journals as articles.

No undergraduate essays are getting published in any "journals," especially any journals that would be appropriate as source material.

Published work though, is considered a legal and academic reference due to the publishes nature of the student's work.

First, there are plenty of publications that aren't considered academically-appropriate sources, because, among other things, they're not peer-reviewed or professional or otherwise authoritative journals. Second, why would "accidental" plagiarism be any less likely based on who wrote the source and whether (or where) it was published? Either you cite all of your sources for any material that you derived from those sources properly or you don't, right? Any "accident" has nothing to do with the type of source or its author.
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Feb 23, 2022 | #19
Any "accident" has nothing to do with the type of source or its author.

There have been cases ( and you can look this up in various universities and colleges rather than asking me to prove it) where the students actually use the "lent paper" by the professor and have it written up by someone else, using the same source material. It is a business the other academic writing companies call "paraphrasing services" and these are all based on previously written papers "borrowed" from the professors.

The professors always catch on and penalize the student who did it, but refuses to admit it. Then the student chases after the hired writer who botched the job since he was caught using the plagiariazed paper. I have never been involved in these instances as I draw the line for academic integrity at some point. I am however, in the know about some freelancers (not you!) and writing companies that do this kind of work. I rejected such work offers in the past.

Thankfully, I am not an active academic writer anymore so I am no longer faced with these decisions. I am out of the academic business totally so you should not consider me a threat to you and your mode of work at all. Which is how you seem to eventually view any other active person on this board. Scared because you cannot keep up with the modern way the business is done I guess? You must be too old to be in the business already which is why you are no longer relevant and familiar with how the students actually get around the old blocks and use new ways to cheat the system. Modern way of doing things? Not really your style is it? Hence your defiance at any explanation that proves you to be wrong.

I do still enjoy discussing the business though. Which is why I am explaining the method by which these "accidents" occur to you. I hope you don't get an aneurysm reading my posts. My disclaimer stands.
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FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 25, 2022 | #20
There have been cases ( and you can look this up in various universities and colleges rather than asking me to prove it) where the students actually use the "lent paper" by the professor ... written up by someone else, using the same source material.

As I tried to explain to you the other day, this is just not the way that rational intelligent people have conversations or make arguments about points of disagreement. You're the one claiming to know of cases where students have tried to submit rewrites of sample essays provided, in the first place, by their professors, as guidance. If someone else says that he doubts that's true, a rational intelligent person responds by simply providing whatever evidence he can that backs his original claim. He doesn't challenge the person who doubts his claim to "find" the evidence of his own claim instead of simply backing up his own claim with whatever evidence he implied that there is.

It is a business the other academic writing companies call "paraphrasing services" and these are all based on previously written papers "borrowed" from the professors.

I'm very familiar with project requests to rewrite essays so that they will pass any plagiarism scan and I've previously mentioned that I handle these types of projects once in a while. Usually, these clients provide no information at all about where they got the original paper. On what basis do you conclude that any of these original projects, much less "all" of them are, necessarily, samples provided by professors rather than essays simply written by other students? Someone would have to be pretty stupid to try to rewrite the samples provided by the course professor. Do you happen to have any evidence of this ever having happened even once that you can share?

I am out of the academic business totally so you should not consider me a threat to you and your mode of work at all. Which is how you seem to eventually view any other active person on this board.

I don't view you as a "threat" and I don't have any problem with anybody just for being "active" on this board. Going all the way back to the years when Professor Verb and Pheelyks were very active contributors, both of them were direct competitors of mine, at the same essay company for which we all wrote, as well as for prospective clients looking for writers on this forum. I have always maintained professional relationships with my legitimate competitors and, in many cases, we have referred clients to one another and backed one another up when we were too booked up to handle projects for our respective clients. In fact, when someone attacked Pheelyks by creating this thread here, I specifically defended him against accusations that I knew couldn't be true, even though it would have been much more beneficial to me to simply ignore that thread to let a very "active" competitor absorb as much negative press as possible: https://essayscam.org/forum/es/pheelyks-versus-freelance-writer-comparative-analysis-3051/

On the other hand, I don't believe that you're "totally" "out of the academic business" because I don't believe that any person who doesn't depend, quite substantially, on income from providing academic essays would ever spend as much time here as you do. That's especially true, because you obviously spend even more time researching the history and current status of dozens and dozens of companies in this business than you spend typing out the information that you collect on them.

For the record, I have never, even once, attacked or insulted you personally. I have only responded to the substance of some of your posts, because some of your proclamations, conclusions, and bits of advice that you post are patently ridiculous. For just a few examples, you have posted that: (1) Some professors now make "allowances" for ghostwritten essays because they understand the pressures facing students; (2) Writers shouldn't stay with any one company for more than 1-2 years to avoid problems getting paid; and (3) Writers working for foreign companies (including companies whose whereabouts aren't known) should protect themselves by making sure they have solid "contracts" with those companies. I pointed out, respectively, that: (1)I don't believe that ANY professors anywhere "allow" students to submit essays that they know those students didn't write; (2)There's no benefit, whatsoever, from continually changing companies, except, perhaps, for bad writers, because legit companies don't suddenly stop paying their writers whatever they owe them after 1-2 years; and (3) No "contract" provides any "protection" if you don't know where the company is actually located or if the company is so far away that the cost of actually pursuing (even valid) contractual claims against them would cost 10-100X the amount of money in dispute.

Those are all conversations about substantive disagreements, not "attacks" of any kind and they aren't motivated even slightly by how "active" you are on this forum or by the fact that you're (obviously, to me) someone working for a "competitor." On that matter, all you have to do is check the many dozens of threads about the history and status of various essay companies that you started or in which you've been "active." I have never, even once, invaded those threads to challenge you, because researching essay companies just isn't something in which I'm involved. However, the amount of time and effort that you spend doing this strongly suggests to any logical reader that it's inconceivable that you don't still earn a living in this industry, because there's just no other explanation for why anybody would ever spend that kind of time researching (other) essay companies if they weren't his competitors.

Scared because you cannot keep up with the modern way the business is done I guess? You must be too old to be in the business already which is why you are no longer relevant and familiar with how the students ... cheat the system.

Nothing I've ever posted, especially in response to your posts, has ever been motivated by my being "scared." Again, as between the two of us, you're the only one who has insulted the other on a personal level. My responses are strictly limited to the substance of your claims with which I often disagree; and one the occasion that you post something with which I actually agree, I have said so.

Modern way of doing things? Not really your style is it? Hence your defiance at any explanation that proves you to be wrong.

Presumably, you're referencing the original topic of this particular disagreement: namely, projects consisting of requests to rewrite essays to pass plagiarism detection. I've said, more than once, that I provide this type of service on request. So far, you have yet to even provide a single iota of evidence for your own claims after they're challenged, let alone "proving" that anything I've said is incorrect. I'm the one trying to have an intelligent conversation about topics of obvious disagreement, and you've taken offenses at that and said various deliberately insulting and nasty things about me instead of trying to establish your original point with any evidence supporting what you've posted.

I do still enjoy discussing the business though. Which is why I am explaining the method by which these "accidents" occur to you. I hope you don't get an aneurysm reading my posts. My disclaimer stands.

Yes, forum discussions can be enjoyable; but that doesn't explain why someone "totally out of the business" would spend so much time researching the history and current status of essay companies. On the matter of your disclaimer, since you bring it up, why would you take such offense and respond so personally and so angrily at my suggestion that some of the things that you post just don't make sense to me? Your own "disclaimer" in your signature implies that much of what you post might be inaccurate and erroneous.




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