EssayFraud is for sale?

Did anyone else see this? This must be a very new development because I was at the site a few days ago and didn't see any notice on the home page.

Its losing value rapidly hence the reason its for sale. 134 days ago it was worth over $8000 now its worth $5400. I guess its lost its popularity, maybe the adverse publicity claiming its links with essay writing sites has caused people to challenge its credibility

You couldn't be more wrong, but that doesn't stop you from stating as fact what is your personal speculation. Unlike you, I actually took the time last night to contact them and they responded this morning. Your claims are woefully inaccurate. If you'd like to know the TRUTH for a change, try using their contact form. By the way, the site that you used to gauge value is known to be completely inaccurate. All it does to determine "value" is grab the domain's age and number of backlinks. That is why no domain-selling/buying sites use it for official business transactions. It's for "entertainment purposes only." The site even admits such!

Why is it for sale? It's not bad.

I am not really bothered why they are selling, however, the site I used to calculate the value of the website did show that the site was worth less than several days ago. Since you have already contacted them why don't you reveal the TRUTH it would save them having to respond to anyone else with the slightest interest as to why they are selling up.

Yes I guess I was speculating that they were probably selling because they are not making as much money as before, however, given the present economic crisis many ventures both online and in the high street are going to the wall, so it is hardly surprising that profits are dropping.

Oh and by the way I don't remember mentioning which site I used to get the valuation of the website from so how can you assert that


when you have zero knowledge of where I got my information from!

I hope you don't sell it to the Pakistani or Ukrainian scammers. Or it doesn't matter to you?

They don't sell anything. Why don't you review the site before posting?


I know EXACTLY what type of site you are using. It was either the following site or one similar:

websiteoutlook/essayfraud

Would there be any sale conditions for a future owner on what the site could/could not be used for?

No it wasn't!!!!


Read the post properly. My reference to selling was the SALE of the website. I DID not say THEY SELL anything. I am well aware of what the site does or does not do. I stated THAT I WAS SPECULATING WHY THEY ARE SELLING as in WHY THEY ARE SELLING THE SITE - get it. And you accuse others of not reading properly huh.

Well, post the site if I am so wrong. That shouldn't be a problem for you, right?


Funny.

You really are having trouble with comprehension aren't you? Where in the above does it state they are SELLING anything specific. I was CLEARLY referring to them SELLING the site domain duh!! Not SELLING any product. I am sure everyone else on here was able to comprehend that and I fail to see how you DO NOT!!!!

Open forum- Who else on here thinks my above quote refers to the site SELLING products rather than the fact that the SITE is for sale?????

he clearly meant they were selling THE SITE.. god writers beware why are u such a cock on this forum?

exwriter, I would tell you not to play dumb, but I don't think you're playing at all.


The bolded parts of the quote above prove that you were clearly referring to sales of product, not the domain itself.

venture
a business enterprise or speculation in which something is risked in the hope of profit; a commercial or other speculation.

dictionary.reference.com/search?q=venture

akuma, you're just human trash.

i love u

1. "not making as much money as before"
The site has never sold any products, neither now nor "before." The domain/site has never been sold "before." So, exwriter, to which do you claim to be referring? The domain/site, right? Please show proof of how/when/where the domain/site sold "before."

2. venture
a business enterprise or speculation in which something is risked in the hope of profit; a commercial or other speculation.
dictionary.reference.com/search?q=venture

Essayfraud is not a business venture of any kind.

3. "it is hardly surprising that profits are dropping"
How, exactly, does a site that sells nothing--and has never attempted to pursue profits--have "dropping profits"?

You don't have to SELL anything for a company to be MAKING a profit and you claim I'M PLAYING AT BEING DUMB!!

Websites make profit through the traffic using the site AND through other companies using the site to advertise through. Essayfraud encourages supposedly legitimate essay writing companies to get verified through them so that customers who visit essayfraud will check out the ALLEGED fraudulent companies listed and will only use those VERIFIED by the essayfraud logo. Are you telling me that the owners of ESSAY FRAUD provide this service free- Od course they are not - therefore they make their money by VERIFYING sites for a fee- hence they either make a profit OR they don't.

Let's face it if the website is NOT making any money WHY would anyone INVEST in buying it!!!!

Why not? Can you show proof to the contrary?


That's one HELL of an accusation, my friend! You wouldn't happen to have ANY sort of proof, would you?


Why do you assume that the site is selling for an "investment"-level price? It could sell for $50 for all you know.

writers beware uve proven time and time again on this forum what a monumental fraud you really are. Anyone with more than a braincell can see through your posts and its about time someone called you out and exposed u as the bullyboy con artist uve become.

What language is that--Moronian?

If I'm such a "fraud," my posts shouldn't mean anything to you. Run along.

By the way, I know exactly who you are, simply from your uniquely moronic syntax and borderline-psychotic need to ask me for help one minute and hurl vulgar insults at me the next. From yesterday:

WB do you seriously expect anyone to believe that essayfraud makes no money at all?? Now whose talking nonsense???

If they were not making any money at all then the site would be worth zero!

No one in their right mind is going to buy a site unless they are going to get some form of return for that investment. Get real!!

As usual, YOU are "talking" nonsense. Prove your accusations or admit that you are embarrassingly incorrect and LIED from the beginning.

Why did you answer NONE of the three questions that I asked? Oh, that's right--you can't!


This doesn't even deserve a response.


You are obviously CLUELESS about both domain sales in general and the value of Essayfraud.org in particular.

Can YOU prove that they ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY???


Actually since my son runs several websites/domains I think you will find that I do know a thing or two about how domain sales work and how sites are valued. Most of my sons profits come from selling advertising space on his domains. The amount of traffic through his sites increases the potential value of the site and therefore makes the prospect of selling the domain more viable.

My son receives income from the advertisers as well as through the number of visits to his domains. My son uses various sources to calculate the value of domains that are for sale so that

(a) he knows the rough value of similar sites owned by himself
(b) he can purchase a site/ domain that has potential to expand and improve
(c) He can calculate the optimum time to market his own domain.

If a site is NOT producing a profit and has NO potential to increase its profits then my son wil not even consider offering to buy such a site. Like all good investors he is looking for a swift return for his investment, though occasionally he has taken chances on dwindling sites (some of which have thrived others which continued to make losses and were sold for a loss).

I guess you don't know much about me huh! You always assume that anyone who challenges your authority on here is speaking without any knowledge of a particular topic. Maybe you shoudl do your research more thoroughly before assuming that the poster does not know what they are talking about!!

Ah, the beauty of second-hand knowledge . . . .

Well, I see that you have STILL failed to answer my three questions. Why is that?


LMAO! That's not how it works, I'm afraid. You made the false accusations, so you have to prove them. If not, you've committed libel. There is not a shred of evidence ANYWHERE to support your nonsensical accusations.


I know that you are a liar who is presenting pure conjecture as fact, repeatedly and intentionally refusing to answer my three questions.


This proves, with 100% certainty, that you don't have the slightest clue about matters in which you suggest that you are an expert. There are MANY different reasons to buy a domain, one of the more popular ones of which does NOT involve a "swift return." Many people buy domains based solely on the number of backlinks and PR, with the goal of either selling backlinks on the site over the course of time and/or taking advantage of the domain's pre-existing SEO to more easily publicize their own, new content. Essayfraud is PR5 and has over 106,000 backlinks, making it extremely attractive to countless buyers.

IF, as you claim, my accusations are false THEN it follows that the owners of Essayfraud WOULD be able to take action against me. However, they would have to prove that my accusations are false ie that they do not charge for verification. In a court of law the person claiming that the actions of another are libellous is placed under a duty to prove the accusations to be false. The person making the assertion HAS no such duty. That's how the law in relation to libel works.

The courts work on the principle of HE WHO ASSERTS MUST PROVE, which therefore means IF a plaintiff is ASSERTING that the accusations are FALSE THEY are under a duty to prove these accusations to be false. In law it is NOT the duty of the person making the accusation IN A LIBEL CASE to prove their accusations to be true.

In a criminal case the burden of proof lies with the prosecutor in proving the guilt of the defendant. The defendant is not required to prove their innocence.

SO if my accusation is FALSE them I challenge the owners of essay fraud to prove these to be false. I wai with bated breath :)

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I did say GOOD investors want a SWIFT return, especially in the present economic crisis.


Why are you so bothered about the value of essay fraud anyway?? What difference does it make to you? IF they are doing so well

Why are they selling and
Why would you be worried about my valuation of the site if others could prove this wrong.

Anyone truly interested in buying the site will do their own research into its value and will base their decision on that research.

Makes me wonder if the allegation that essay fraud and ET are linked IS true since you also so staunchily defend ET!!

Ah, so now we come full circle. Like other liars that I have outed, you now resort to the same garbage.

I posted a thread. You made false accusations--stated as FACT--about the site's VALUE, thus INITIATING that realm of discussion! You brought it up, not me! I took the necessary steps and provided the necessary information to prove you to be a liar on all counts. Now you're accusing me of owning the sites? That's pathetic. How about just admitting that you are wrong instead of engaging in smear tactics?


So, you expect the owners of Essayfraud to file an expensive lawsuit just to prove you to be a liar? I don't see how that's necessary, considering that I have already done so.


Again, if you had a CLUE, you would realize exactly how SIMPLE it would be for Essayfraud to provide the court with such proof. The following link provides immediate access to hundreds of verified sites, the owners of which will surely confirm that they did not pay a penny for verification. So, tell me--we're supposed to believe YOUR false accusations over their FIRST-HAND knowledge? Good luck, liar.

siteexplorer.search.yahoo/search?p=essayfraud&bwm=i&bwmo=d&bwmf=u

And just WHERE did I state YOU own these sites. I said YOU defend these SITES A fact proven by your NEED to claim that essayfraud does not get ANY profit from verification SO why is it advertised as a FEE BASED SITE

google.com/Top/Reference/Education/Products_and_Services/Academic _Papers/Fee_Based/


ANd JUST where have you done that. You have SIMPLY replied stating that they DO NOT CHARGE without proving this as a fact- that does NOT make your assertion ANY better than mine. YOU TOO ARE making statements without backing these up with evidence - and we know how much YOU value evidence!!!!

You have CLEARLY insinuated that I own and/or work for both sites:

This is the basis for your ignorant accusations--a directory listing that Google siphons from DMOZ, a third-party directory edited by human beings who are not required to have ANY authoritative knowledge of the subject-specific categories that they edit? In fact, the editor who MOVED Essayfraud's listing to that incorrect category could very well be one of Essayfraud's enemies who has managed to secure an editor position with DMOZ. DMOZ is well-known for enabling site owners to delete competitors' and/or enemies' listings. So, LMAO! Great job, Sherlocke! NEWSFLASH: Essayfraud has never sold anything. I've followed the site since shortly after it first launched.


I've proven you to be a liar regarding your claims concerning Essayfraud's potential value to different buyers, the owners' reasons for sale, AND the site's commercial nature. I also just posted a link that leads to all verified sites, the owners of each of which will surely acknowledge that you are a liar.

I think WB was the inspiration behind this graphic:

mattcutts.com/images/duty_calls.png

Akuma on a good day:

changetowin.org/connect/moron.jpg

I am in the process of investigating whether the site makes a profit and how they achieve this and will reveal my findings as soon as I have the result. Rest assured I will back up- with evidence- the results of my investigation.

Maybe you will be eating your own words!!


No I STATED THAT YOU DEFEND BOTH SITES- Why you defend them is UP TO YOU. I have not made any suggestion as to WHY you are defending them AT ALL!!! You are the one that has presumed that I am assuming you are working for them- Now why would you assume that??

Nice spin. Next!

In every circumstance, I am not the one who dropped names or issued false accusations that required specific counter-evidence from/about the sites in question.


I can 100% guarantee that it will never happen. (Hurry, make me eat these words! I've set-up myself perfectly for you because I am THAT confident that you are full of s-i*. Get to it!) In fact, I am fairly certain that you will post no results at all, since the results will undoubtedly prove that you are a liar. You won't be the first person to promise an "investigation" and never deliver.

Well as they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Oh and by the way I didn't need to SPIN anything AS THERE IS NOTHING IN ANY OF MY POSTS STATING WHERE YOU WORK IF INDEED YOU DO WORK AT ALL!!! And you know I am right which is why you are trying to make out that I am putting a SPIN on things.

Open your eyes and read properly for a change!!!!

Repeating yourself is a sign of senility!!!

Its nice to see your not embarassed about making a fool of yourself.

Shame you don't know WHEN to admit your wrong.

You have WAY too much time on your hands!! Maybe they should remain this domain Writersbewarerants.org. lol since you practically live on here. Don't you have a REAL job and anything BETTER to do with your life.

Anyway as amusing as it is doing battle with you I am off to bed as SOME of us have REAL work to do tomorrow.

Sleep well!!!

Bye bye, proven liar.

Anyone who reads your original claims will recognize that I proved you to have lied across the board. Sad.

By the way, why have you not posted the site that you used to calculate Essayfraud's "value"? Afraid that doing so will prove that you LIED on that account, as well? LMAO!

Hey WB someone on another forum has asked a question about you lol

Well not directly about you but I'm sure you will get mt drift as will many others on here

answerbag.com/q_view/298096

Maybe the moderators of this site should follow the example below lol

intricateart.com/have-the-last-word/

Ex writer, don't you see that I have intentionally set myself up perfectly for YOU to have the last word? Why don't you prove that you have a shred of integrity by:

1. answering my direct questions;

2. posting the results of your "investigation"?

Hurry up--I can't wait for you to embarrass me with your facts and evidence!

EDIT: Again, what's the name of the site that you used to determine the "value" of Essay fraud? (You boldly claim that I'm wrong about your source, so all you have to do to PROVE it is to post the URL. Simple, right?)

Dear sirs, it is still for sale? I try to make my ofer but its not working/

How much I should pay. I develope websites.

Are you referring to essayfraud not working or the sale page not working? I can confirm that essayfraud is down right now. It won't load for me.

Website was not working and I think it's soled. But is it for sale now? I want to know how much in US dollar.

The Sedo page would not still be accepting offers if the site has already been sold.


The sale page does not show an asking price. The sale page requests "offers," which means that there is no set price. You submit an offer and the owner tells you if he/she accepts it.

what happened to essayfraud?

Does anyone know what happened to essay fraud? they had "for sale" message some time ago and now website is not live.... Or it is live but the content is completely different and nor related to academic paper research fraud.