HMMM... whats the point of this website?

any1 know?

What is it that you're asking actually?

Like whats the point of the website, why was it made?

sure i can do it for u

haha, thanks manish.

and along the general subject of peddling, let's all take a look at the top ten threads. why are people coming here lately? is it to report scams, or look for writers? essaychat already exists. a note to all greedy bastards-- using this place to hawk is helping to dissipate its true purpose. you're parasites.

moral, amoral, I could give a ****. just play by the rules.

as for the peanut gallery,


as I've stated before, my email linked to this account goes exactly nowhere. I don't even know the password. whether you like me or not, you'll have to admit that's a pretty hard way of getting customers.


as this site has rarely been anything but the proverbial hollow tree to me, I really have no need to be dishonest. as for where I claim to be self-satisfied, you'll need to provide a link on that one.


I'll need a link for this one, too, since I actually think that, by conventional standards of morality, FW has me beat by a country mile-- this is part of what makes him boring to me. he has a lot more of that boring pabulum on hand, because he has a bigger need for self-protection on this, one of his favorite advertising forums.

it's no big deal if you can't paste the links. and by all means, don't let me get in the way if you decide to make another list of your ignorant assumptions. I need a laugh sometimes, just like anyone.

I don't mean any disrespect to the owners. I like this and think it is valuable, or I wouldn't be here. But if this site was ever useful for exposing scams, that time is long past. It's exactly as useless for identifying scams as it is for finding a good writer. You simply cannot tell who's who or what's what about anyone, at least not at first glance. Let's say "Student A" comes and posts that "Company X" is a "complete and total scam who cheated me out of $200!" So what? Is Student A a student, or a competitor? It's the same if Student A sings a company's praises -- who knows what the motivation is?

Confounding things, certain companies cannot be mentioned. If some companies can be mentioned and some cannot, then how can we expect to get an objective view of the industry?

Put another way, if any student asked me, "How in the heck can I identify scam companies?" then most assuredly I would NOT tell them to come here.

Let me reiterate: I like the site. I see it as a place for writers, students, and company representatives to discuss the industry. With enough time here, you can start to get a feel for the industry. It's like the proverbial blind men feeling up the elephant. It's where I have learned much of what I know, and it's where I continue to ask questions.

Every now and then, I end up in touch with a potential client. It's not why I'm here. Usually the assignments are not what I'm looking for -- they're last minute, they're tedious, they're British. People end up on random websites pleading to strangers in the middle of the night for a reason.

To denounce, to condemn, to seek revenge and retribution, and in general engage in great wailing and gnashing of teeth.

You will see anything and everything on here except maybe reports of UFO sightings.

Have you ever seen one of those by the way? I have, when I was in the army. They're real.

Actually, yes, as a boy I did once. Very strange.

It's pretty clear:

1. Avoid using the sites listed on the DND list because if they screw you up (all sites will screw you up sooner or later), you cannot talk freely about that (at least on this site).

Btw. The sites on the DND list become less and less relevant in time and nobody cares about them any more. Has anybody noticed that? Just check their web rankings before and after they decided that their customers have no right to complain about their services to have a clear proof.

2. Avoid using sites that have a pattern of bad reviews (you can use the search here or Google).

3. Avoid African writers as mucha as you can. Unless you are an ESL student.

You're probably right.

Ok, hi guys.

So i'm new to this site but I've been trolling through these forums for a while now trying to work out what the bloody point of it is?

Here's what I've deduced!

Firstly it is against the rules to advertise on the site,
Secondly reviewing sites is pointless because everyone suspects that you are secretly advertising for them,
Thirdly it is foolish to trust anyone on this site because everyone has an agenda, although there does seem to be a couple of authentic-ish members, they are as quick to turn on each other as they are on anyone and any mild inkling of trust you may have built up towards them is quickly disposed of when another member accuses them of fraud.

All in all... I fail completely to see what this site offers to the consumer, except perhaps the realisation that this industry is sketchy beyond fu*- and that one should stop being an incompetent ass and learn to do their own essays.

Instead of tainting this industry more with this pointless bickering why doesn't someone think of a creative way to secure a higher level of trust between consumer/producer. Skype conversation spring to mind?

I dunno, I guess I'm just pissed that I've spent the better part of 2 hours trolling this sh!t site and have got no closer to coming to a decision as to how I'm going get this essay done.

I guess the point of this message is the same as every other message I've ever read on this damned forum... CONSUMERS: don't trust anyone, don't trust any site, take a punt... and hope for the best.

What ever!

Yes, I have encountered the same situation when I once tried to order an essay at their site.

Two hours of research is not a lot of time when considering that you are looking for a writer who can work on your essay and get you through your degree! After two weeks here, day after day, I finally found myself a good writer, and a seemingly fair dinkum bloke too. My advice would be to spend more time here, read through the posts, and then read them again. Soon you will find a pattern, look firstly to who can actually write decent English, then from these writers, look to see whose posts are honest, concise, and relevant. Remember, even though a writer may appear to have great wit and possess fantastic debating skills, you are looking for a writer, not a politician. The way a writer treats others in this very forum may also be the way he/she treats their clients.

Don't go being drastic! Some of us have bills to pay.

A man who is rude to waiters but is nice to others is not a nice man.

this is an advertising forum for snarky, cynical writers who prey on customers looking for information on scams.

it is also a place for company owners to play sandbox dictator.

as for the first point, I am concerned that this forum accepts advertising money from known a known scam company based in Kiev, Ukraine and with offices in NYC, USA, academia-research.com. the above link to "essaytrust" in the advertising bar goes to them as an end-site. academia-research.com is a company that defrauds and robs from its writers. quit immediately at the first sign of academia-research.com fining you, and save yourself the trouble.

as a customer, I think you stand a slim chance of getting a good paper from writers who are generally innocent to being low-balled and don't know industry CPP averages, or continue to work in fealty to those who rob them. it's not exactly a motivator to writing good papers to be subject to a laughing bunch of thieving hyenas.

Editor75 can't bring himself to openly acknowledge that I have always been correct, so I did it for him.

you misunderstand and presume... and yet I am neither surprised nor amused. you're the same old drag, WB.

academia-research.com hires everyone, no matter where they're from, and treats them all equally shattily. a Harvard grad and an idiot have an equal chance of writing your paper... assuming that AR administration has not lowered the boom on them, which they will do, for whatever reason it is, to both.

So, then, what you are now saying is that customers "stand a slim chance of getting a good paper from" a Harvard graduate.

Pick your poison, Rusty.

the Harvard grad is probably hustling for 4 other companies and slumming... not doing their best for sub-par rates. they may also be a bit angry, if the boom is starting to be lowered, and pull a bit of sabotage. in any case, the world isn't black and white, toots.

oh, and never put words in my mouth again, when you don't understand the first thing I'm saying.

The fact of the matter is that AR retains almost exclusively foreign, unqualified-to-write-professionally-in-the-English-language, ESL writers because they are the only writers who can SURVIVE on the paltry payouts that AR offers. Native English-speaking writers from North America, Britain, Canada, and Australia soon leave AR after discovering the true payment amounts. Do you deny these facts?

AR, while not the highest-paying company in the industry, does pay before they lower the boom. this makes it entirely possible for the abovementioned hypothetical Harvard grad to continue to work for them as a supplementary source of income for years, selfishly ignorant of the company's 300% fines until they are actually levied. considering the relatively low turnover achieved by not lowering the boom for a few years on particularly well-regarded researchers (based on customer feedback), and the assumed habit of robbing the talentless and/or non-English-speaking researchers relatively quickly, your point of view regarding this company is revealed as, at best, a string of irrational assumptions. in fact, it's a ruthless beast of a system that AR has, and if you are any indication, SNR is being drummed out of existence by it largely through a sense of hubris.

anyway, we see on whose side essayscam.org stands.

I still don't see you directly denying my claim, Rusty.

Do you know all the writers that the company employs? Do you have the evidence to support your nonsense?
Yet another baseless assertion from a hallucinatory moron.

Getting back on point, while I am no longer an active academic writer, I believe that the reason this website exists is simple. While the site does not claim to be the police of the academic writing industry, they do offer valuable services. The first is that of a space where those who got conned by independent writers or writing companies can come to vent their anger and warn others who might be looking for "help" with their writing assignments. The fact that there are other writers and companies here that pay to advertise their services or whatever is just one of the many benefits of membership at this forum.

As a company or writer who pays advertise writing services, there is a sense of "legality" in the manner that business is done between the company / writer and the client. Everything is "on the level" because the client can actually choose which company or writer he wants to contact for the work to be done based upon the postings that the company representative or writer makes. All the other negatives that "accidentally" come out in the form of students addressing the companies or writers that scammed them or other reasons are bonuses that serve to protect to the would be victims.

The purpose of this site is therefore two-fold. The first is to protect the students from scams and the second, is to help them contact competent ENL writers who will not scam them.

When I first arrived at this website, I thought that it was a place where students came to snitch on other writing companies. I was ready to start snitching alongside them when I realized that this forum was meant for more than just tattling on other companies. It is here to help students protect themselves from themselves. The people who post here act as academic counselors who help guide the students towards the proper decision when it comes to their paper writing. Either they hire a reputable company or writer, and learn how to do so based on student-writer interactions at the forum, or, they take a chance and hire a questionable company based on cost. Either way, the students get an important service out of this website. How they use is what establishes the point of this website's existence.

That is a good question to ask in the age of AI writing. We have this forum to help students find reliable writers and prevent them from dealing with fraudsters. The market has been changing though with students more focused on using AI to complete their work, That negated the need for human writers. There are a large group of students who no longer need the advice that we give them because they avoid the "problems" by using AI to bypass the human factor. I guess that I find myself questioning if there is actually a point to keeping this forum alive these days. Has this forum become irrelevant?

For students who just want to find qualified honest human writers, this forum still serves the same purpose that it always has.