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Independent Writers vs. Companies - which students prefer?


Conjecture  1 | 2  
Aug 22, 2013 | #1

Independent Writers vs. Companies - the Better Choice for Custom-Written Essays



Students, which one do you prefer?

I used to place orders with writing companies but the results were not that good because I got different writers with every order. Recently I found a personal writer, and I am very glad. There is easy communication and consistency in my papers. His charges are even substantially low compared to what I used to pay. The only (BIG) problem is that it turned out the writer is not native-English speaker. He basically lied on his writer profile about his location. It's possible that he also lied about his education; he listed some prestigious colleges and universities on his resume, but I doubt the information is real.

As far as the quality of his essays are concerned, they may be enough for high-school or junior college level, but anything else I would have to spend HOURS to fix them. Not just spelling and grammar, but also basic knowledge and logic.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 22, 2013 | #2
I think the issue has been discussed already. As a general rule, anonymous writers using @gmail, @yahoo, @outlook, @yahoo, @msn, and similar accounts are just anonymous freelance writers using disposable email addresses. Some of them are legit, but the vast majority are not, so it's a hit or miss.
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Aug 22, 2013 | #3
anonymous writers using ..

In a similar vein, rock and roll is just ... rock and roll ...
writerIN  1 | 2   Freelance Writer
Sep 17, 2013 | #4
After being ripped of my Money by a company which i had contracted to do my Thesis, i came across a writer my email @gmail through this forum. He claimed to be an independent writer who promised to do my thesis and some research papers, riskily i decided to test him. I gave some assignment and truly he delivered high quality work on time and at a very fair price. Communication a super perfect writer

Since then i have consecutively used him, very reliable and have also referred the writer to my friends who are all very happy with him. As we speak i just handled in my Final thesis to my Prof all under the assistance of @gmail

I prefer independent writers rather than companies, learn to build relationship with such writers and you will feel the difference.

One attribute that independent writers lack, on a general basis, is professionalism and getting alteration done after payment can be a bit problematic. However, writers that are professional, strictly adhere to deadlines and prompt to reply are second to none. Since you can contact them directly, you are more likely to get a better work delivered.

When a writer produces a quality paper, doesn't he deserve a credit? We should be debating about quality but not country of origin.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Mar 26, 2018 | #5
Based upon my experience with students, most of them tend to prefer the "safety" of dealing with a company for their academic writing needs. Just like with everything else in life, a professional set up, albeit a virtual one, tends to give the student more of a "professional" air than having to deal with an independent writer directly. Some of them are not very comfortable with the "handshake" set up of the agreement between an independent writer and the client. They tend to think that they do not have much of a recourse if the writer opts to renege on the agreement, unlike when they are in a company set up. They like the idea that their paper can be "reassigned" to someone else in case on writer fails to deliver. I can understand why they would prefer that set up although, it isn't always the better deal.

I have had clients who told me that they prefer to have direct with the writer without the middleman because it gives them a sense of better understanding when it comes to explaining what they need to the writer. Also, having access to the email account and/or professional call number of the writer gives them a sense of confidence in the professionalism of the writer involved.

I guess it is hard to tell which service is most preferred by students because each choice has its advantages and disadvantages. It may just be a up to a personal preference at this point since there isn't really any way to tell when which or when one of the two choices can fall apart for the student / client.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 26, 2018 | #6
They like the idea that their paper can be "reassigned" to someone else in case on writer fails to deliver.

The tradeoff is that at most companies, the project just gets posted on a public bulletin board of one form or another where any one of dozens (or hundreds) of writers with widely-differing levels of experience and ability can choose to take the order. Some company writers have been doing this successfully for many years, whereas others who might choose to take the project might have just been hired and might have no more writing experience than the client.

Also, as I've explained before:

(1) Any good writer who's been in this business for a long time has established relationships with other good writers who can back him up in an emergency.

(2) Practically every successful independent writer either used to write for essay companies before establishing a large enough clientele to work independently or still writes for companies at the same time that he's building up his private clientele; and in many cases, the established independent writers are some of the top writers at the best essay companies.

(3) It's even more important for us independent writers to provide work that's good enough to enable us to keep every good client we get than it was for us when we worked at essay companies.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Mar 28, 2018 | #7
Legit, American companies don't tolerate or hire crappy writers. Period.
Smiley73, straight up: why do you dig up literally EVERY years-old, long-dead, already-rehashed thread? Something is definitely fishy here . . . .
elvatoloco123  1 | 3  
Apr 04, 2018 | #8
Its hard to find good independent writers because they are not trustworthy and their credentials like resume or reviews can be easily manipulated.

I occasionally get random messages from students who read my posts here and think I might be able to help them. It's just how it works when you're a forum member and you mention that you're a writer, especially if your grammar is halfway decent. It's not the reason I'm here; rather, I come here to learn from other writers and learn about the industry. In fact, I refuse most of the assignments I am offered by people who find me here, simply because they tend to be rotten assignments, for some reason. If other writers -- my theoretical competitors -- are getting business that way, it doesn't bother me at all, whether it's against forum rules or not.

I really don't get the hypercompetition thing. There seems to be more than enough business for everyone. The vicious stuff seems to come from foreign writers and companies who rely on lots of first-time customers. Decent independent writers seem to have more repeat business than they can handle and don't really care what other writers are doing. I say the more the merrier.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Apr 05, 2018 | #9
Independent WriterApparently, in your mind, any writer who happens to be able to express a coherent thought in complete, grammatically correct written English is necessarily violating forum rules by "advertising." This was a totally dead thread that hadn't even had a post in almost two years and not a single post in it from anybody could even remotely be considered "advertising" anything. Meanwhile, Mr. "Integrity" over here wants people to believe that he`s "above" breaking any forum rules and continually pretends that`s his problem with me (even though I haven`t broken any forum rules for a very long time):

Stop insulting the intelligence of anybody reading this nonsense by suggesting that breaking the rules of an online forum deeply offends your moral philosophy, but actually "attending grad school" to impersonate clients and "graduate them" is perfectly OK with you. You`re here for the exact same reason as every other writer and nobody with half a brain really believes that your continual unprovoked personal animosity toward me is strictly on "moral" grounds or is based in "integrity" and has "nothing" to do with trying to discredit another writer as an underhanded way of "competing" against him.

And I don`t have any "crew." One of the people who was banned is another company and freelance writer who competes directly against me (but always fairly and without having to resort to disparaging me), and the other was a poster about whom I know nothing more than you do. In case you don`t realize it, there are at least a half a dozen other legitimate writers here who also write for the same companies you accused those two banned posters (and me) of promoting here and neither that other writer nor I has any different relationship with or obligation to any of those companies than any of those other company writers on this forum. The only difference is that the other banned writer and I always used the same forum ID here as our company writer IDs.

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That's where the search function of this forum is very useful. Just plug in the name of any company or the U/N and/or email of any freelance writer you might be considering. If they've ever been discussed on this forum, you'll find those discussions; just make sure that you first change the default field from "topic titles" to "messages" so you find all of the comments about them and not just the few (if any) threads with that company or writer actually in the thread title.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Aug 16, 2020 | #10
Before the pandemic threw a wrench into the independent writing industry, the students coming to me preferred the safety of the company writer but, they wanted to have a direct communication line with the writer. So all I had to do was accommodate their requests. A PM system within the company server, not manned by a middle man was the key to my company being able to keep the client base that wanted direct writer access. However, I had writers who had some direct clients coming to them from other sources and it was the writer who asked if my company could assist in their direct hiring needs. I was more than happy to oblige the request. I just had a service fee that the writer had to work into his final costing for the page. It appears to me that, based on these 2 highly different writing hiring experiences, the students don't really have a clear preference when it comes to hiring the writer. All they want is the communication line to be open and regular. That isn't asking for much.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Aug 18, 2020 | #11
Apparently, Admin here chose to remove the accusatory post that preceded (what is now) Post #9 in this old thread to which Post #9 was a direct response. They also removed the quotes within Post #9 that gave it context.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jun 15, 2025 | #12
Consider that academic writing companies these days charge students to have their papers written by AI and you will immediately realize why hiring a company these days is not really advisable. While some companies openly admit to using AI as a part of their sales pitch on their websites, some claim to not use the technology, without knowing that their writers are actually using AI to complete the papers without the consent of the company nor the student. Therefore, it becomes clear that the winner in this situation is the independent writer. The student can be fully assured that he will not be using AI to complete his paper. An independent writer relies on referrals to keep his business afloat, so lying about how the paper will be written will not be beneficial to him.
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FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jun 15, 2025 | #13
While some companies openly admit to using AI as a part of their sales pitch on their websites, some claim to not use the technology, without knowing that their writers are actually using AI to complete the papers without the consent of the company nor the student. Therefore, it becomes clear that the winner in this situation is the independent writer.

Generally, I agree with this, but students still need to be very careful, because I don't agree that there's automatically any basis for having confidence that an independent writer won't be using AI, just because he or she is an independent writer. The simplest reason is that most writers who write for companies also take as much independent business as possible; so, it's largely the same pool of writers.

The student can be fully assured that he will not be using AI to complete his paper. An independent writer relies on referrals to keep his business afloat, so lying about how the paper will be written will not be beneficial to him.

I also agree that, typically, writers have always been more conscientious about their private work than about their work for essay companies, because our personal reputations are much more important to us than the reputations of any company for which we might work. However, in the age of AI, you can still be fairly certain that any relatively new writer will be taking the AI shortcut, irrespective of whether it's for a private client or a company client. Therefore, the risk of inadvertently hiring someone who will just be using AI remains quite high in both cases.

That means it's even more important now than it already was -- for other important reasons unrelated to AI -- to make sure that the independent writer you're considering using has a very long and verifiable presence and history in the industry, and a reputation for providing excellent work that far pre-dates the availability of AI programs. A naturally good writer who has been doing this work quite well for decades is far less likely to change his or her writing process or to believe that AI might "improve" his work product than someone who just started doing this relatively recently.




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