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A message for an independent writer. If you are Master's level student, you need to read!


Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Aug 31, 2011 | #1
I have had several master level clients, whom I was unable to handle their requests because of limited time for large manuscripts, seek out writing services on the web (large essay writing websites and both of the examples that I am referring to were ESL students). Though I pleaded with them to write the essays themselves, they refused my advice and ended up going through one of the more popular sites. In one instance, the site (customwritings) gave them a false sense of security that their manuscript would be handled by a masters-level writer who was familiar with the subject at hand, it is impossible for any writer to come in at the end of the semester, write a paper without being exposed to the course's lectures and required readings, and write a large, niche-based paper within a small window of time. Common sense should have recognized the inevitable disappointment, but obviously this there's took a back seat to their laziness and reliance upon others. After receiving multiple calls/texts begging me to help them out of the mess they were in, I became somewhat of an advocate for their cause, which meant I wrote to the writers explaining in detail, providing numerous examples, etc. of errors that they had made. Besides being the most redundant essay that I have ever read and their overall fixation with the return policy and contractual agreement that was agreed to, they failed to handle any of mistakes that I identified. I agreed to handle the essay, which nearly killed me (25 pages), and only now am I able to laugh at the absurdity of the essay that the affiliated writer produced.

The lesson:

1) If you are a Master's level student, there are very few options for last minute requests. I do not recommend gambling on any, regardless of the sales pitch.

2) If you request an essay to be completed within a time frame that you couldn't complete yourself, you're going to be highly disappointed and the risk factor, such as the writer bailing on you increases exponentially.

3) All the required reading, academic databases that you subscribe to, etc, help to establish the appropriate frame to approach a large manuscript. Writers are not magicians and they can only do so much. There are a 100 different ways to write about any given topic, help the writer to contextualize the essay to your class...though, the best option is to write it yourself.

A final word about customwritings.com from Ukraine:

Is this site fraudulent?

I would not go so far as to say that this site scams customers, but customers need to recognize how these sites work. Often, writers are contracted to handle requests, in which they get paid very little for the work that they do....writing, researching, and editing is not easy and even fewer people find it rewarding. You guys would be shocked to see how many emails I receive from Chinese sites looking to contract writers and pay them less than minimum wages. Further, these sites are a lot like any large corporation, in which you have your good and bad apples. In short, I am sure that there are talented writers affiliated with each of the large sites, but it's up to you to make sure you selected a competent one and have provided them with more than enough information to complete your request!

BOL to all you slackers!

meant to say, "A Message from an independent writer..." oh well, you all know what I meant : )
ilmaven  - | 3  
Aug 31, 2011 | #2
my sentiments exactly
WritersBeware  
Sep 01, 2011 | #3
Brendan, you obviously have not worked for any of the old, legitimate, American companies in the industry, so please stop painting with such a wide brush.
OP Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Sep 01, 2011 | #4
You're right...I have not worked for any of the legitimate U.S companies, but I do know how these companies are structured. If you're a Master's level student and you are shopping for last minute options, you're gambling big time. Are there writers within the industry that can offer hope to these types of students? I'd say that there are, but you're going to find yourself underwater far more than you're going to find a good life raft.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 01, 2011 | #5
.I have not worked for any of the legitimate U.S companies, but I do know how these companies are structured

This overgeneralization (and explanation of what you know) is unacceptable. I thought you'd take note.
WritersBeware  
Sep 01, 2011 | #6
but I do know how these companies are structured

No, you don't.
OP Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Sep 01, 2011 | #7
I am not here to protect these companies and instead, I am forewarning grad students to not put last-minute faith in some unknown writer to handle their specialized request. Further, it doesn't take a rocket science to figure out how these companies are structured. There are always going to be counter examples that will disprove a general concept, but the heart of what I am getting at will only be disputed by individuals who are affiliated with these sites. I thought I made it clear in the first post that I wouldn't go so far as to say that all of the writers are the same, but rather, these kind of last minute situations are going to yield more negative results more times than positive results. It's common sense. A writer and an editor from customwritings.com failed to write a master's level essay for my ESL client. Again, I placed some of the fault on my client, but you guys should have read the essay that was produced...it was quite comical and I'll see if I can't dig it up. On a final note, what can't be done by yourself within a reasonable amount of time should be a big clue as to what you can expect from another. There will always be examples that will counter this general argument, but that's not what matters. How many master students are willing to get burnt 7 out of 10 times in order to find those 3 writers who are going to come through for them?
WritersBeware  
Sep 01, 2011 | #8
A writer and an editor from customwritings.com failed to write a master's level essay for my ESL client.

CustomWritings.com is based in UKRAINE. It has been outed in this forum numerous times for engaging in various forms of fraud and misrepresentation. It hires almost exclusively low-paid, unqualified, ESL writers.
OP Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Sep 01, 2011 | #9
I never insinuated that the company was U.S.-based.

Do you work for one of these large, U.S-based sites? For knowing so much about the industry and seeing your total post count, what is your objective here? There has to be an angle...and it's likely that you represent the industry in one way or another. I am not interested in ego-jousting on this forum, but came here wanting to warn master's level students about the obvious pitfalls of looking for last minute life rafts. If my message steps on your toes, I am sorry...maybe you should plug yourself so that people walk away from the forum with some answers, instead of only reading about negative experiences. I can forward you the three or four dissertation/ master's-level requests that I have received since my short stint here, if that's what you're looking for...because it's not my angle and I have politely declined each request.
WritersBeware  
Sep 01, 2011 | #10
I never insinuated that the company was U.S.-based.

You used a notoriously FRAUDULENT, foreign site as the basis for painting EVERY site in the industry with the same brush. You have stated as fact what is absolutely NOT fact. You obviously have no clue whatsoever how the old, legitimate sites work or what writers they hire, but that does not stop you from making blatantly false statements about their writers and practices.

Don't ask questions that I have already answered numerous times over the years. If you want those answers, search the forum. You wouldn't want to conduct any legitimate research before making false claims, would you? Oh, wait . . . .

maybe you should plug yourself so that people walk away from the forum with some answers, instead of only reading about negative experiences.

You need to read the rules of the forum:

12. The EssayScam Forum (that includes the private message system) is not a place for advertisements or publicity in any way. EssayScam and its moderators have the sole discretion to determine what constitutes an advertisement. Violators may be temporarily or permanently suspended.

As I have stated probably 100 times over the years, I do not write papers for students.
OP Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Sep 01, 2011 | #11
In what fashion do you represent the industry"...because you've racked up enough posts to show that you're vested in this in one way or another. Or are you just a good Samaritan, who looks after the reputations of "good" writing sites over the years? In the threads that I have read, very little is learned about you....other than you seem to troll anyone and everyone. If you're not vested in this industry in one fashion or another, it's even worse. Which is it?

Do you represent ET? I knew there was an angle to your trolling. So is this forum related to ET? Sort of misleading if it is. Now I understand why you jumped on my thread because I "painted a broad stroke." Every large site has it's fair share of issues...yes, every site. It's the nature of the Internet, this industry, and the fact that academic writing wears and tears on writers.
WritersBeware  
Sep 01, 2011 | #12
other than you seem to troll anyone and everyone. If you're not vested in this industry in one fashion or another, it's even worse. Which is it?

F? off. Do you even know what "troll" means? Try educating yourself before attempting to insult someone.

Do you represent ET? I knew there was an angle to your trolling.

Again, f*- off. Obviously, your research skills are limited to regurgitating the ignorant propaganda of ESL fraudsters and liars who've been outed in this forum. That speaks volumes about your company's credentials. Unless you and your tiny company (wix.com/brendan992/iwrite) want to "gamble" by getting on my bad side, you should probably STFU and find the door.
Inessabell  - | 3   Student
Oct 03, 2011 | #13
Hi Brendan, love your style. Please E-mail me, I need help
OP Brendan992  2 | 9   Freelance Writer
Oct 03, 2011 | #14
I'm a little hesitant to take any clients from this site, because I get the feeling that some of the traffic has scammed some of the sites. I have had only one payment issue since I started a few years ago and I want to keep it that way. I'm small potatoes to most of the sites out there.
reliable  - | 2   Student
Nov 12, 2011 | #15
Brandon thank you for the information. Gpalab and Essaysaid are two other companies students should stay away from. Their writers don't read and follow the instructions given, not to mention grammar errors, that's just what makes up the paper ERRORS.

I would love to find out which company is really a good one. My friend used GraduateWriter.com at least twice with good results; but I lost contact with him since he graduated. The site is much cheaper than UKEssays for a British student, so I may try it when the new semester starts.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Apr 10, 2021 | #16
If you request an essay to be completed within a time frame that you couldn't complete yourself... such as the writer bailing on you increases exponentially.

There is also the possibility that an independent writer or writing company would charge you an unbelievably high price due to the unreasonable time frame, and you will pay for it out of desperation. Which means you were suckered into the con. These companies and deceptive writers will actually do that and leave the client holding an empty bag. If the client was so lazy that could not even be bothered to look for a proper academic writing service long before the deadline, then they deserve to get the trash paper that such writers produce. Hard lesson learned. Do it yourself or, allow for ample lead time to be able to search, assess, and hire a proper writing service for your masters paper needs.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Apr 12, 2021 | #17
There is also the possibility that an independent writer or writing company would charge you an unbelievably high price due to the unreasonable time frame, and you will pay for it out of desperation.

What about the possibility that a totally legitimate writer will charge a very high price for producing a difficult project on very short notice and then actually provide exactly what was promised?

If the client was so lazy that could not even be bothered to look for a proper academic writing service long before the deadline, then they deserve to get the trash paper that such writers produce.

Some of my best and most loyal clients first used me when they had to scramble to find a writer at the very last minute (for whatever reason) and they understood why I charged them a premium to drop what I was doing to accommodate their emergencies on extremely short notice. Some of them have even left reviews of my services on this forum, both in regular threads and on my profile page.
noted  10 | 2064 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Apr 27, 2022 | #18
2) If you request an essay to be completed within a time frame that you couldn't complete yourself, you're going to be highly disappointed and the risk factor, such as the writer bailing on you increases exponentially.

Academic writers are used to completing work for students with short tun. around times. Itis actually the lifeline of the business for those who specialize in these situations. Truely skilled research writers can make the impossible possible for students. The risk factor only comes in when the writer hired has misrepresented himself just to get the job. If a writing company is hired instead of an independent writer, then the scenario above will lbecome true. The companies are usually where the writers who lack skills and/or misrepresent their skills are to be found.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Apr 30, 2022 | #19
The companies are usually where the writers who lack skills and/or misrepresent their skills are to be found.

I'm currently working on a 9,000-wd semi-rush project that my client already ordered from a company with a much bigger advertising presence than mine. After she got a price quote from me, she said she was going to try them because they gave her a lower price. I tried to warn her about only ordering the first 1,000 words before trusting them with the whole project; but my email went to her spam folder and by the time she saw it, she'd already placed the order. The work she received was, quite predictably, totally unusable, and she ended up paying me my original price after wasting approximately 60% of that amount on my competitor. It was a shorter deadline, obviously, but I just didn't have the heart to charge her more for it.




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