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New Wave of essay writer spammers - does it actually work?


pheelyks  
Dec 08, 2009 | #1
Is it just me, or are we experiencing an increase in the number of bogus accounts being set up and used to various silly (and forum-banned) activities?

Yesterday's exposure of Lee41,Sue2008, and all of her(his?) other aliases is one example; folks like J_richardson, jack2007, and angel21 also make me wonder. Seems their general m.o. is to find a thread about a rival company (assuming that these are fraudster employees/admin of scam companies) and post a meaningless and brief accusation to bump that thread up (they are usually weeks old), and soon to start recommending their own company.

Question to the spammers:

Does this actually work? Do you really see climb in business after employing these tactics, or are your just wasting your time along with everyone else's?

Question for everyone else:

Am I the only one noticing this increase? Is there anything we can do about it?
OP WritersBeware  
Dec 08, 2009 | #2
No, it's not just you.
OP WritersBeware  
Dec 10, 2009 | #3
Mod, I'm sure that, by now, you know that the following usernames are associated with the same person/group:

angel121
Emma_H
J_richardson
jack007
Lee41
lionking

Can you please ban them, along with any associated IPs and accounts? I think that all legit members would appreciate it.
worried  - | 12  
Dec 11, 2009 | #4
I've decided to order from *ET. You seem very good. Can I request you personally as a writer?
OP pheelyks  
Dec 11, 2009 | #5
Worried-

In an earlier post, you claim to be anxiously awaiting an order from *********, Here, you have "decided" to order from them. Please explain how that makes sense.
worried  - | 12  
Dec 11, 2009 | #6
What I should have said is that I feel good about ordering from them now that I've heard all the good things you said. my bad. sorry misspoke. I had 2 other orders from them before that were superb! really good! But I also have 2 other orders that are due today. I feel better now, that I will get them tomorrow. How do you request a writer at *********? I would like to request you. These 2 papers are really important.

I should have said request in the future.

I feel better now that I will actually receive them tomorrow.
OP WritersBeware  
Dec 11, 2009 | #7
Man . . . . Where have I seen this act previously?
Fracturegang  6 | 329  
Dec 12, 2009 | #8
Am I the only one noticing this increase? Is there anything we can do about it?

Hello, SisFP, mind your own business. You are one of the greatest web spammers.
OP pheelyks  
Dec 12, 2009 | #9
Hello, SisFP,

What does this even mean?

mind your own business

These idiots (like yourself) are taking up time and space on a forum I visit regularly. That kind of makes it my business.
Fracturegang  6 | 329  
Dec 12, 2009 | #10
What does this even mean?

Pathetic!! SisFP
OP pheelyks  
Dec 12, 2009 | #11
You're right, That was totally obvious to everyone but me. How stupid of me. And how very eloquent and clever of you.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Dec 12, 2009 | #12
Salazar - your use of English makes my eyes bleed. Learn the language, you pathetic ignoramus. Knowledge of English is a prerequisite to using it.
anky  4 | 31  
Dec 30, 2009 | #13
Is there any website where we can check if we meet the requirements?
american_writer  10 | 91  
Dec 30, 2009 | #14
Well at least you posted your comment in the right thread SPAMMER. Why don't you sign up at both sites and write your little heart out?
OP WritersBeware  
Aug 30, 2010 | #15
[Moved from]:

If you SPAM or promote your site here, your lies will be exposed!



It boggles my mind every time a new spammer arrives, pretends to be a "happy customer" of his/her own site, and proceeds to s-i* all over the board with links to his/her fly-by-night, ripoff site(s). Haven't you idiots read the forum and seen what has happened to the idiots who came before you?

FAIR WARNING

If you SPAM or promote your site here, I will thoroughly investigate you-and your site-in every possible way. I have information and use tools that you don't even know exist. If you're going to roll the dice and willingly ignore forum rules in order to SPAM your garbage, you had better make sure that you've NEVER engaged in any sort of fraud or misrepresentation.
Sikandar  1 | 26  
Aug 31, 2010 | #16
Been away. Nothing has changed here. In another month, we will look for help, I am sure.
OP WritersBeware  
Sep 03, 2010 | #17
Latest spammer = lilmonkey24 from foreign tryouracademicpapers.net
OP WritersBeware  
Oct 17, 2010 | #18
Latest spammer = writemypaper.net

These fraudulent morons never learn . . . .

Latest spammer = student25 from academiasolution.com
Pari  2 | 1   Freelance Writer
Oct 27, 2010 | #19

The Essay Industry Reputation Being Destroyed by a Handful of Spamming Owners...



We need to consider a formal cease and desist letter sent to the dang essay company that has been aggressively spamming every wiki. Something that makes it clear that further spam will be prosecuted as criminal computer trespass. They have a tangled web of cover companies, so I'm not sure if they are a US firm or have a US presence that will allow for an easy C&D process. However they account for over 50% of all interwiki spam, and are slowly adding new links to all wikis. They are the single major source of spam for Wiki Spot.

wikispot.org/Abuse/Essayspam

These websites and many more are spammers, scammers and full of fraudulent business practices. In October 2009, we noticed people signing up on HomeTownRent websites with strange email addresses and poorly-written rental listings which were actually ads with links back to one of these sites. A simple automated purge and some extra human vigilance have zapped these guys, but we thought it wise to share some cautionary notes to any who stumble across their purported services.

blog.hometownrent.com/2009/10/28/exposing-essay-and-paper-writing-scams/

Does anyone know these websites? If they spam Wiki and other reputable sources to the point they need to send them a C&D letter no wonder the reputation of legitimate essay writing websites is in the toilet..... Why the legitimate companies have to suffer because of a few irresponsible punks who own hundreds or thousands of fraudulent websites?
OP pheelyks  
Oct 27, 2010 | #20
I don't know that this industry has an exactly stellar reputation to begin with, but the fact is most of the fraudulent companies are in countries like the Ukraine, Pakistan, and other parts of the world where legal systems are much looser and much more corrupt. Trying to shut them down is like playing whack-a-mole.
Kisii1941  - | 9  
Oct 28, 2010 | #21
This noble industry is not being destroyed by spamming owners but companies that pretend to be genuine yet they don't pay their writers on time. Am sorry to say this but 4writers.net is such a company. Please don't take advantage of writers.
OP pheelyks  
Oct 28, 2010 | #22
Kisli, you need to find work in another industry. It isn't right for companies to refuse to pay you for work for which they have collected money, but you do not have the requisite skills to write academic papers in English.
Kisii1941  - | 9  
Oct 28, 2010 | #23
Hi pheelyks,
I was not trying to show case my prowess as an academic writer but raise an issue that is affecting thousands of writers in my country. Most of them are full time academic writers but they are conned their hard earned cash.
OP pheelyks  
Oct 29, 2010 | #24
How very noble of you. Hopefully the people you are defending write better than you.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 05, 2011 | #25
More or less any site that gets shamelessly promoted here looks terrible in the end. To these people, you are only inviting forum regulars to investigate your companies and in many cases prove you to be godawful, effectively losing more customers than you might hope to gain on this site.

Spamming WritersIf you claim to be a writer and can't write worth a damn, it's probably better for you if you simply don't post here, since you're only losing potential customers by proving yourself to be a bad writer (although, to be honest, that's kind of a good thing as it prevents them from wasting their time and money on a 'writer' who can't satisfy their needs). Students will look at your awful posts on here and think "Wow, do I really want academic material written by a person who makes even a simple post on a public forum impossible to make any sense out of?"

You can pick out grammatical errors from other forum users all you like in response, but look at it in context; you are wrongfully seeking paying customers as a writer on a forum that does not condone this behaviour, and they will be able to tell a few simple typos from persistent grammatical inconsistencies and failed attempts at punctuation. Considering the fact that grades are riding on this, they are going to be a great deal more reluctant to look to you as a writer to provide them with quality content. Who do you seriously think you are helping by showing yourself up as a buffoon with a seriously transparent act that has already been done a billion times?

Also, to the students who won't even search through the forum a little for information about a company, you unfortunately seem the types to just submit any work you get from the people you pay without a single glance at what crap they might have handed you, and I'm almost tempted to say you deserve what you get if it all goes to pot for you and you get a poor mark handed back.

The people arguing about race and whatever: If you can write in English at the appropriate standard expected from your intended audience, and understand the culture for which you are writing, then go ahead and feel free to write academic papers on topics you specialise in. Just don't expect support on this forum when you belong to companies that lie about the nationality and skill level of their writers. Really, it's great that you are bilingual, but you need to be able to write at a very high standard in the English language if you are planning to write essays for EFL students.

There is a culture clash here as well; certain phrases that might make sense to you in your native language will stick out like a sore thumb if you try to translate them into English. While this may be fine in day to day conversation, look at it contextually and you can see that it simply is not appropriate for the writing style required of an academic paper.

Really, a lot of the comments regarding your use of language might rub you the wrong way, but in context, if you are a writer for an essay company you really should not be highlighting aspects of your writing style that stand out as an indicator of ESL writing style, because if you're writing for EFL students such phrases are seriously going to confuse them, and for the idiots that do submit them as their own (I have no sympathy for these people, but eh, it happens, and they pay as well, cringeworthy as that may be), the people who mark their paper will look upon these odd phrases with suspicion.

tl;dr - Most of the time, you're getting the smackdown because you deserve it. You set yourselves up to be kicked down. If you don't care to take in the rules or the nature of this forum, then don't expect any consideration from the other forum members in return because although there are people who find this all very amusing (:D) I'm pretty sure a lot of them are really fed up with your s-i* by this point.
OP WritersBeware  
Mar 21, 2012 | #26
SPAMMER WARNING: If you spam your site here, you will regret it!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

If you spam your site here, I will:

* expose your real name, phone number, email address, location, etc.
* post your corporate documents (if they exist)
* highlight your lack of qualifications
* reference all of the mistakes on your site(s)
* quote all of the lies and misrepresentations on your site(s)
* reveal all scams and/or dirty connections from your past (and present)
* post your criminal record (if any)
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Mar 30, 2021 | #27
Am I the only one noticing this increase? Is there anything we can do about it?

You are not the only person who notices these increases. The system is programmed to detect these things and call the attention of the IT staff behind the scenes. They get to work on closing the multiple accounts as fast as these are registered and, they also suspend or ban the users IP addresses so prevent any more repeated sign-ups. These happen on a daily basis and really keep the IT staff on their toes.
noted  8 | 2052 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jul 13, 2022 | #28
Spammers are part and parcel of any open discussion format. We should just be thankful that we are dealing with human spammers rather than bots. Humans may be detected and easily suspended. Bots, not so much. That AI seems to get around even the best anti-bot and spam programs.

There was a spam influx the other day. Luckily someone caught on behind the scenes and suspended the user. I did not see any trace of the spam anywhere at the forum today.

They seem to ramp up their attacks as the new schoolyear draws nearer to the opening date. It should abate soon
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