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Proposal (Essayscam Verification)


WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #1
Essayscam's goals, as listed on the Homepage, include the following:
EssayScam's members come here to expose unscrupulous business practices of some of the "illegitimate" essay-writing websites that (willingly or unwillingly) jeopradize the good reputation of the law-abiding academic writing and research organizations. Some of them believe that all research companies (both 'foreign' and 'domestic') should work together in order to protect their clients from substandard services and the industry from unfair laws or bad press.

As some of the older members know, EssayFraud attempted to fulfil the above goal through its verification procedure. Considering that EssayScam is, without contest, the leading industry forum, I believe that it should actively work towards the fulfillment of the above goal though the estabishment of its own `company verification pocedure.'

EssaySam and several members here have often emphasised that legitimacy is unrelated to nationality but to whether or not websites/companies tell the truth:
1) are they honest about their nationality/the geographic origin of the company
2) do they honestly disclose the geographic origin of their service - nationality of writers (if they hire ESL writers, they should say so - this is important because most of the problematic sites claim that they only ever hire Brits and Americans with MA's and PhD's; while we know it to be untrue, customers don't)

3) what are their recruiting practices - do they hire students or people who just `claim' to have multiple degrees or do applicants have to submit proof of their academic degrees)

4) do they honestly disclose company ownership and the nationality of the owners
5) do they clearly inform customers that they are linked to other sites (their network of sites, I mean)
6) do they offer writers fair pay
7) do they have a writer fining system
8) do they pay their writers or find various excuses not to
9) are their guarantees empty promises or do they enforce them
10) do they encourage plagiarism or are they serious about the no-submission policy
etc., etc.

The goal here is to seperate the good companies from the bad ones, not the foreign from the domestic. A foreign company would be counted as `legitimate' if it honestly disclosed its nationality, etc.

How about EssayScam, as the leading industry forum, implementing a verification system? This would benefit both customers and writers as only companies which are honest in their dealings with their writers and customers would be verified.

I, for one, am willing to send EssayScam all the relevant docs to establish that we, as a company, are honest about who we are and fully disclose our affiliations. I am further willing to invite EssayScam into our backend so they may check whether or not we satisfy the other conditions for verification. If we do not satisfy the conditions, we will just have to work on improving ourselves and reapply for verification at a later date.

What I am proposing here is simple - as per EssayScam's goals, let's seperate the honest from the dishonest. The `legitimate' companies (and that includes the foreign-based ones) should work together to improve the industry's image and ensure that industry operatives run a clean business.

I fully realise that my proposal needs a great deal of polishing but there are several here (WB, Major, etc.) who know this industry a lot better than many of us put together - maybe they can come up with a workable proposal.
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #2
You've got my vote!

I can't wait to see who opposes such verification for the public good. Hmmm . . . .
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #3
This shows who owns this forum and what are the intentions behind running it. stop fooling yourself..
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #4
I can't wait to see who opposes such verification for the public good.

This shows who owns this forum and what are the intentions behind running it. stop fooling yourself..

Well, that didn't take long.

FYI, fraudster, it's public knowledge who owns this forum, and it's absolutely not me or WRT. Thanks for proving your clueless idiocy one again.
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #5
You've got my vote!

Great :) But, given your knowledge of the industry, your input is needed - polishing it up, etc.

I don't think AA would mind, either. They were verified by Essay Fraud. Furthermore, if you look at the number of times they were constructively criticised here (as opposed to senseless bashing), and their response, you'll find that they tend to take it well ...

Researcher - you are a mr-n. Seriously, you are a complete ignoramus. Check the forum's ownership before you shove your foot in your mouth ...

BTW, your objection speaks volumes ...
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #6
I don't think that any of the legitimate, truthful company owners will have a problem with verification. In fact, I think that they will all welcome it. They will certainly recognize that it's good for customers, writers, and legit business owners. It's bad for fraudsters. Anything that's bad for fraudsters is good for the public.

But, given your knowledge of the industry, your input is needed - polishing it up, etc.

I could certainly help in providing a modified version of the checklist that I use to verify sites/companies. I think that it would translate well for your proposed purpose.

SNEAK PEAK:

* The applicant must both answer and initiate a phone call from a non-redirected landline that has been publicly associated with his/her site(s) for at least 3 months. The landline must also be physically located in the advertised and/or implied state/province and country of business (e.g., California, United States).
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #7
I don't think that any of the legitimate, truthful company owners will have a problem with verification.

Exactly! The industry has become infested with fraudsters - customers get scammed, writers do not receive fair compensation, if at all, and we all suffer the consequences. Verification - seperating the good from the bad - would help us.

WB - when our sites first went online, our Terms and Conditions stated that we passed copyright to customers. You publicly pointed out that it was illegal - we did not have a hissy fit but, instead, removed that from our Terms and Conditions. What I am saying is this - constructive criticism is good! If we really want to grow and establish ourselves as above-board industry operatives, we need to listen to those who know more than we do; we should listen to criticisms and act upon them.

Must both answer and initiate a phone call from a non-redirected landline that has been publicly associated with the site(s) for at least 3 months. .

Yes :) I fully agree. For example, we say that we are British but also have American partnership interests and management. So, shouldn't we have both US and UK landlines (non-directed)? If we don't (especially as the numbers are posted on our sites), then we don't get verified until we correct it.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #8
customers get scammed, writers do not receive fair compensation,

Shall i list here the great frauds committed by the great US companies right under the nose of SEC and FED and every blah blah?? Idiot.. stop fooling ppl... if you have courage, reveal what your company charges to the customers? how many time you have cheated them? what your customers get? idiot.. you both are the biggest fraudsters of this industry and live in fools paradise..

Yes :) I fully agree. For example, we say that we are British but also have American partnership interests and management. So, shouldn't we have both US and UK landlines (non-directed)? If we don't (especially as the numbers are posted on our sites), then we don't get verified until we correct it.

SO READERS HERE IS ANOTHER PROOF....... A PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO CHAMPION THE TRUTH RUNS HIS/HER OWN COMPANY AND MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO DIVERT VISITORS OF THIS FORUM TO HER/HIS SITE.. SHAME ON YOU ......... CHEATERS.. FRAUDS.. SHAME.. SHAME.. SHAME... SHAME ON YOU..
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #9
Yes :) I fully agree. For example, we say that we are British but also have American partnership interests and management. So, shouldn't we have both US and UK landlines (non-directed)?

I think that most business owners in either the US or UK have little reason to lie about being located in the other country. So, it stands to reason that the vast majority of people who will have a hard time passing this particular test are those who are located in countries like Pakistan, India, Ukraine, Philippines, etc. but falsely claim to be located in the US or UK. NOTE: If, for example, a site/company owner in Pakistan publicly admits on his/her sites to being located in Pakistan, he/she will have no problem passing this particular test by using his/her landline in Pakistan.

Of course, this landline test is only one of many tests on my list.

(Researcher's mouth frothing increases . . . .)
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #10
Shall i list here the great frauds committed by the great US companies right under the nose of SEC and FED and every blah blah??

We are talking about this industry and not your favourite topic: Enron, etc ...

reveal what your company charges to the customers?

Reveal our prices? Are you a complete mr-n? Our prices are public knowledge. How is it even possible to conceal our `charges' from customers?

how many time you have cheated them?

To date, never. And, as the verification procedure might include spot-checks, we won't ever have that option.

what your customers get?

Extremely high quality work.

I am willing to submit to checks and supervision. Why? I have nothing to hide and criticism would help us improve. I have no problem with criticism but have every problem in the world with senseless bashing ...

you both are the biggest fraudsters of this industry and live in fools paradise..

Ok - the verification procedure would `out' us ... simple as that.

A PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO CHAMPION THE TRUTH RUNS HIS/HER OWN COMPANY AND MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO DIVERT VISITORS OF THIS FORUM TO HER/HIS SITE.. SHAME ON YOU

I never mention my sites here and have never publicly disclosed the sites. You know why? To keep my posts free and clear of any type of advertising or promotion. Plus, unlike you, I never PM customers :)

Weren't you so terribly clueless, you would have known that I have defended my competitors multiple times against senseless bashing ...

You want me to show you how upfront I can be about my company? Here goes - ET, CP, AA, SNR, etc are all much bigger than us and have infinitely more experience. They are the models we try to emulate. Now, do I own all the companies I've just listed? Those with a modicum of industry knowledge know that I am not, in any way, shape or form, connected to any of them.

Now - back to the point: why are you so vehemently opposed to verification?

Writers - wouldn't you want to know which companies would treat you fairly and give you your dues?

Customers - would you want to know which companies/sites won't scam you?

What is so damn wrong with the enforcement of a system which would ensure honesty?
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #11
We are talking about this industry and not your favourite topic: Enron, etc ...

There are countless threads on this forum even suggesting the frauds committed by Academic Knowledge/Essaybay. I can list many examples of frauds committed by legitimate UK registered companies? Shall I start with you?

Reveal our prices? Our prices are public knowledge. How is it even possible to conceal our `charges' from customers?

Idiot.. have you ever made a comparison? you must be charging higher for work which is lowest in quality.. that is the real fraud.. idiot..

Extremely high quality work.

Who decides quality? any proofs?

stop acting like this.. you are here to attract customers... this is not senseless bashing....

[quote=WRT]I never mention my sites here and have never publicly disclosed the sites.

are you sure? shall I show you the posts where you have accepted this?

ET, CP, AA, SNR, etc

heheh... industry models.. my foot... I can show countless proofs here where ET cheats on its customers...

What is so damn wrong with the enforcement of a system which would ensure honesty?

Who would decide what is honest? ppl who have commercial interests? ppl who are here to earn money by maligning the competitors...
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #12
heheh... industry models.. my foot... I can show countless proofs here where ET cheats on its customers...

Countless? How about starting with just ONE?

Who would decide what is honest?

The submitted information for each test would be verified by admin using independent, third-party tools that are available to the public, so as to prevent fraudsters like you from crying foul.

(Researcher's mouth frothing increases . . . .)

svsfv
DaveM  - | 30  
Aug 02, 2010 | #13
I have better idea: all poster here who own or are connected to essay site STOP BEING SUCH COWARD SCAREDY CAT CHICKEN and tell all poster WHO they are and WHAT site they own.

Then student and writer here can make up their own mind.

Why not?

Why you so afraid WRT/WB siamese twin obsessive poster who always are say that other essay site and individual are scammer - and name them - but are TOO COWARD SCAREDY CAT FRIGHTENED to be HONEST and tell everybody who you are.

But we all knowing why that is eh? What 'so DAMN wrong' about asking essay site owner to be honest and post their name and company detail. Carly from AA does. But then, she not scammer eh...

COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, WB/WRT! It OK. Don't be scared! We know your site are small amateur failing loser site - but student and writer here should have right to judge for themself.

There is NO GOOD REASON why you HIDE LIKE COWARDS and do not tell us al, your name and essay company. Except ONE reason that is, and we all knowing how dishonest essay scam site always try to hiding...

Now you will post abuse and lies as usual. If you do this you will proving that you too scared to post your name and company, and we shall all thinking there is good reason for this (only scammer are determine to hide ID after alls).

Almost 6000 posts WB in 3 year!!! GET HELP PSYCHO WEIRDO! GET A LIFE, LOSER!

I don't think that any of the legitimate, truthful company owners will have a problem with verification

Exactly! I DO NOT THINK LEGITOMATE, TRUTHFUL COMPANY OWNERS WILL HAVE A PROBLEM TELLING EVERYBODY THEIR NAME AND WHAT COMPANY THEY OWN.

So how bout practice what you preaching Psycho WB eh? Or are you chickenshhttt coward?

Come on - HAVE THE GUTS, SCAREDY CAT SCAREDY CAT CHICK CHICK CHICKEN WB!

(I could posting picture of chicken and say it you... because you know YOU ARE CHICKEN!)
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #14
In opposition, thus far:

Researcher
(fraudster from Pakistan who is directly associated with sites [essaybrunch, etc.] that lie about being American and/or misrepresent their writers' location)

DaveM
(sociopaths [Matt & Melissa] from the UK and Australia, respectively, who use fake addresses, misrepresentation, at least 16 previously banned usernames, and stolen content to defraud consumers)

SPECIAL REQUEST:
DaveM (Matt/Melissa), for all that is good and holy, please drop the embarrassingly horrible ESL act.
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #15
Researcher - all I can say is that you are damn terrified. That, alone, speaks to your ethics and the nature of your practices.

"DaveM" - your opposition is understandable :) You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of making it through the verification procedure. Copyright theft is a big no-no.

Whether you believe it or not, I do not know WB and do not know EssayScam's moderators - yet, I am willing to submit to their verification. I certainly won't hand out the keys to our backend to someone such as you but would do so with them. Actually, wouldn't mind the inclusion of a writer such as Pheelyks on the verification board.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #16
Countless? How about starting with just ONE?

It is on the site.. idiot.. ET resells papers which have already been written for some customers at high prices.. In fact those original customers can be charged off for plagiarism...
DaveM  - | 30  
Aug 02, 2010 | #17
In opposition so far to posters revealing who they are and what essay company they representing:

WB the psycho weirdo poster obsessive who post nearly 6000 time on here - that HALF A MILLION WORD OF LIE AND ABUSE!!! PSYCHO!!! (Many say she owning ********* and/or scammer site - and because she not say who she is we cannot verify that she is honest.)

WRT (many say he own scam UK company and because he too much coward to tell his ID or site, we can only assume that this probably true).

We shall all see from this person reluctance to be honest and do full disclosure that they havng something to hide. Why? You decide.

WHY SO SCARED OF BEING HONEST WB/WRT Siamese twin scaredy cat coward? Why?

WHY!!!???
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #18
And who says Admin is honest? What are these third party tools? A service which may have been started by you to skim more money from the customers and site owners? idiot.. Everyone can smell your commercial interests behind this..

Why you so afraid WRT/WB siamese twin obsessive poster who always are say that other essay site and individual are scammer.

They are not so courageous to take such step.. they cowards..

(fraudster from Pakistan who is directly associated with sites [essaybrunch, etc.] that lie about being American

r u serious? idiot.. Essaybrunch is probably the only site in the world which provides phone numbers of its writers to the customers so that they can better communicate.. ... idiot.. liar... I am a writer with essay brunch and do not own it..

Researcher - all I can say is that you are damn terrified. That, alone, speaks to your ethics and the nature of your practices.

Can you define ethics please? accusing others on this forum is an ethic? what a shame you are?
DaveM  - | 30  
Aug 02, 2010 | #19
WB is a proven liar. Here is the evidence:

DaveM
(sociopaths [Matt & Melissa] from the UK and Australia, respectively, who use fake addresses, misrepresentation, at least 16 previously banned usernames, and stolen content to defraud consumers)

NO EVIDENCE AT ALL for what the PSYCHO CHICKEN from ********* WB say - because it nopt true.

Oh - but WB always say things that are not true! In almost 6000 postes in 3 years full of abuse, lie, and signs of psychosiz.

PSYCHO SCAREDY CAT COWARD WB! Tell us all who you are! If not, YOU PROVE YOURSELVES A SCAMMER!

Now I go work and leave pathetics psycho coward to only sad life they know: posting abuses on sad internets forums... PSYCHO WEIRDO CHICKENS!
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #20
Desperation ... desperation ...

Mods, in an effort to keep this thread clean and serious, could you please keep the scammers' initial objections up there but delete their repetitive trash-talk?
DaveM  - | 30  
Aug 02, 2010 | #21
Desperation ... desperation ...

YES you are VERY desperate - and as I predicting you crybaby desperate pleas to the mod!!!

repetitive trash-talk

Ah you and WB specialty: 1500 post from WRT (not busy eh in your lower essay company) and psycho weirdo WB is having no life in real world so post mearly 6000 time on here - THATS HALF A MILLION WORDS!!!! PSYCHO WEIRDO!!!!

If mod remove all trash talk and lie then mod will removing ALL your post WRT and WB!!! But mod know only psycho like yous post here mostly so you will never being baned. Sad loser life in virtual world for loser like you. You welcome to it.

AS I PREDICTED, WRT AND WB AND TOO MUCH SCARDY CAT COWARD CHICKEN TO STATE THEIR NAME AND WHAT COMPANY THEY OWN.

WHY?

ASK YOURSELF EVERYBODY? WHY THEY NOT TELL THEY'RE NAME AND COMPANY? ALL LEGITIMATE AND HONEST POSTER DO (LIKE CARLY FROM AA). BUT WRT AND WB ARE NOT THAT, OF COURSE...

STUDENT AND WRITERS: BEWARE SCAMMER ON HERE!

WB AND WRT - YOU ARE COWARD CHICKEN AND PROVE YOU ARE BY NOT REVEAL WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR COMPANY.

PLEASE GIVE GOOD REASON WHY YOU NOT DO THIS.

WE ALL WAITING....
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #22
Mods, in an effort to keep this thread clean and serious, could you please keep the scammers' initial objections up there but delete their repetitive trash-talk?

are you serious... by reading your and WBs posts here.. one can very well imagine who is desperate here.. heheh.. you are only exposing yourself....
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #23
MOD, as this is a thread about a very important, proposed initiative (not irrelevant, personal attacks), can you please remove Posts 13-29 and prevent all further garbage?

Thanks
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #24
can you please remove Posts 13-29 and prevent all further garbage?

Yes, please. Keep this thread clean ...
DaveM  - | 30  
Aug 02, 2010 | #25
WB/WRT - TERRIFIED OF THE TRUTH EH?

WHY NOT TELL POSTER HERE WHO YOU ARE? WHAT COMPANY YOU REPRESENTING?

WHY NOT? WHY? COWARD CHICKEN SCAREDY CAT DESPERATE DIRTY TRASH!

Evidence that WB is SO DAMN DESPERATES she make predicated plea to mod to remove truth from thread!!!

MOD, as this is a thread about a very important, proposed initiative (not irrelevant, personal attacks), can you please remove Posts 13-29 and prevent all further garbage?

Thank yous WB/WRT thing - you PROVE YOU ARE COWARD AND HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE.

Why not tell poster who you are? That is MUCH better idea that any other on these thread.

It called VERIFICATION that you are LEGITIMATE and not SCAMMER!

So why you not do it?

WHY?

BECAUSE YOU ARE DESPERATE TO HIDE YOUR ID AND NOT TELL POSTER HERE WHAT TRASH SCAM COMPANY YOU OWN!!! If not - why not just tell your name and company? Carly does. Carly honest. YOu WRT and WB are dishonest and not to be trust.

ONLY COWARD AND THOSE WHO HAVE SOMTHINGS TO HIDE ARE AFRIGHTENED OF WHAT OTHER POSTER SAY. COWARDS!

BEWARE ALL STUDENT AND WRITER OF ANYONE WHO NOT TELL ID!

Thanks you both WRT/WB for prove that you are desperate and have many thing to hide.

TOO DAMN SCAREDY CAT COWARD CHICKEN TO TELL POSTER HERE WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT COMPANY YOU REPRESENTING!!!

WE ALL KNOW WHAT THIS IS...
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #26
MOD, as this is a thread about a very important, proposed initiative (not irrelevant, personal attacks), can you please remove Posts 13-29 and prevent all further garbage?

Thanks

nice way to back off .. you fear being exposed.. the discussion on this thread is valid because it is really important first to decide who is honest and committed to the industry and customers.. People who themselves are scammers and cheaters cannot be allowed to become trend setters.. At least we have courage and honesty to disclose whom we write for but WB and WRT- PPL who have initiated this thread- does not have the courage to even disclose their true identities and whom they work for, what they own? first come out clean.. post the scan copies of your passports to prove your nationalities than claim to be honest..
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #27
1. WRT has already posted her business credentials and passport. She has also openly acknowledged-numerous times-which sites she owns.

2. I have stated-countless times-that I do not own or write for ANY essay sites.

3. Would falsely claiming that I own a site make you feel better? Nope. Would falsely claiming that I own a site make my substantive (look it up) claims/statements any less true? Nope.

4. Only fraudsters will have a problem with a verification list.

5. The verification tools are well-known and accessible to the public. The exact tools would be publicly revealed when the system launches. Anyone will be able to use the tools to verify the results for any site/company.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #28
WRT has already posted her business credentials and passport. She has also openly acknowledged-numerous times-which sites she owns.

Proof please? Where is your Passport? I can prove you wrong here because she has written in this forum that she does not disclose her sites... you are proven wrong again...

I have stated-countless times-that I do not own or write for ANY essay sites.

What is the purpose of your existence than? why someone will continue to do so on a forum without any commercial interests? anyone who surf this forum will notice that you post here for almost every minute.. if you do not own or write for any site, what you do for your living? Are you paid by ET and other sites to malign their competitors?

Would falsely claiming that I own a site make you feel better?

You are probably the biggest liar.. a person who has clear association with many sites and still claim not to work for anyone... Reader.. give our WB a test.. post anything against ET and you will countless reply from WB in defence of ET.. Post something in praise of any other site.. even if it is uploaded minutes ago.. and WB will term it as fraud.. Try this please..
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #29
why someone will continue to do so on a forum without any commercial interests?

Ask yourself that question. Why do you fraudulently pose as a "writer" who claims to not own any sites, yet frequently SPAMs links to his Pakistani, ESL garbage sites?

why are you using this forum?

I've already answered that question numerous times. If the completely irrelevant answer to that question is so important to you, use the search box.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #30
Ask yourself that question, "writer."

You are backing off again.. if you are not working for anyone.. why are you doing this? why are you using this forum? We all here have accepted at least for whom we write but you are the only person who claims that she neither owns a site nor write for anyone.. so what are your interest than?

Ask yourself that question. Why do you fraudulently pose as "writer" who claims to not own any sites, yet frequently SPAMs links to his Pakistani, ESL garbage sites?

They are not Pakistani sites.. I do not own them.. yes but I know they offer quality.. they offer good quality work at affordable prices.. they are doing good to the customers.. they are not at least cheating the customers to offer them low quality papers at high prices..
OP WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Aug 02, 2010 | #31
You are, evidently, retarded. You have the termerity to claim that those in support of this proposal are "scammers"? How is that even possible? Those unwilling to support it are the questionable ones. The proposal is all about devising a strategy to ensure that companies do not lie to customers and do not cheat their writers; it is about ensuring honesty and constructively confronting the negative image the industry has acquired due to the practices of people like you.

Are you worried that the verification procedure would give those in charge access to you (non-existent) client list? You can hide client emails and contact info.

Are you worried that they will access your writer list? Writers are not exclusive and work for several companies. There's nothing, therefore, to hide.

It is important to establish standards for this industry.

It is imperative that writers know who will pay them and who is likely to scam them.

Customers, seeing that their academic future is partly on the line here, have to know which companies are trustworthy and which aren't.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with location/nationality. Who says that an Indian/Pakistani/Ukrainian company is, by definition, dishonest and would fail the verification procedure? By that same token, who says that a UK or US-based company would pass it? I can think of several who probably won't.

It is high-time for all those who work in this industry, whether as business owners or writers, to come together for the purposes of reclaiming it from the scammers.

Researcher and FractureGang claim that they are writers but they, quite frankly, cannot write. Does it even stand to reason that they be hired and let loose on customers? Can they be compared to people like Pheelyks, FreelanceWriter or (someone I don't get along with) RustyIronChains? What type of company would hire them? One which pays its writers $2-3 per page (max $6) and, at the end of the day, provides customers with senseless, useless, trash? The quality of writers we hire should be an important part of the verification procedure.
WritersBeware  
Aug 02, 2010 | #32
They are not Pakistani sites

Do you really want to go there? Yes, you do.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Aug 02, 2010 | #33
You are, evidently, retarded. You have the termerity to claim that those in support of this proposal are "scammers"?

And those who are proposing this move? who are they? are they honest? have they not cheated on their customers? don't they lie? the negative image that this industry has taken is because of this forum --- because of dirty tricks of ppl like you and WB who come here to malign their competitors and resultantly are also damaging the industry.. Why is to that only ET is endorsed as a genuine company on this forum? despite the fact that there many legitimate services offering good quality work to their customers.. show me an evidence where you have endorsed a service to whom you are not related in any sense? probably there will be few thread......

verification procedure?

And who will do this verification process? perhaps one of your own service... you are trying to milk money from services here... Essay Writing Services- in their pure ethical context- cannot be considered as legitimate in any way.. Many States in US prohibit such services.. Universities dislike it.. and you are trying to establish standards for something which is basically ethically wrong....
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 07, 2021 | #34
ES actually has its own verification system in place but, I doubt it had anything to do with this thread. While the verification system remains known to only a few withinthe inner circle of the company owner, it is suffice to say that the system works forthe purposes intendend. While paid advertising from specific companies helps to keep the system running, that is not to say that they are not subject to background checks and deep records investigation. They are. However, those are just preliminary checks. St is the backroom investigation that decides if their advertising will be accepted or not. All the writers and companies here are appropriately verified.
wild squirrel  - | 6  
May 09, 2021 | #35
Verify your location; then talk! Several people have asked you to.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Dec 02, 2021 | #36
A verification system is not really necessary in my opinion. I mean, the company representatives who wander into our forum threads already do a very good job of revealing which company or writer is being untruthful in their claims. They do not even need our help to prove their lack of writing standards, actual company location, and little educated writing staff. All the legitimate company owners and writers have to do is sit back, relax, and watch these idiots blow their covers. It does not take them too long to do that. They usually manage to prove that they are working for a scam within the first sentence of their post or new thread. The students are intelligent enough to identify these signs already. There is no need to overcomplicate things.
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