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re-selling custom written papers after 6 months...


i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 09, 2010 | #1
hey people. i heard that in 6 months companies re-sell custom papers.

How can it affect the 1st customer in the future ?

I mean, if the company re-sell the paper and the person who (re)bought uses it like it is, what would happen ?? will the person be caught on plagiarism ?

I really dont understand this

PLEASE, help!
WritersBeware  
Nov 09, 2010 | #2
God helps those who help themselves. Please employ common sense.
OP i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 09, 2010 | #3
Can you draw ? i didnt get you, writersbeware.
researchland  - | 8  
Nov 10, 2010 | #4
i heard that in 6 months companies re-sell custom papers.

Some do. Others don't.
OP i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 10, 2010 | #5
Awesome answer mate.

afff

Does anybody help here or this site is just for public insult and people posting to get PM ?
WritersBeware  
Nov 10, 2010 | #6
Does anybody help here

People help, WITHIN THE RULES OF THE FORUM.
OP i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 10, 2010 | #7
By the way, What is the name of the software that you were discussing in the other thread, writersbeware ??
WritersBeware  
Nov 10, 2010 | #8
It's despicable software that I will not name. Only fraudsters and spammers use it.
OP i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 10, 2010 | #9
ok, but do you know any good one that i can use to improve and boost my paper ?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 10, 2010 | #10
I just had a new client ask me the same question. Anti-plagiarism software only does one thing: it allows you to check to see whether something "new" was copied from an older source. It has nothing to do with the origin of the older source and nobody checking a new paper for plagiarism cares anything about the original; they only care that the new paper isn't original work. Anyway, there's nothing "wrong" with students letting friends have copies of their old papers to read and it's not your responsibility what they do with it afterwards. Most of the time, anti-plagiarism software only checks to see whether the new work is copied from publicly available sources or matches work previous submitted to their sites. They don't backtrack to the original and send some kind of notice to professors to let them know that someone who wrote a paper for them a year ago might have given it to someone else who tried to submit it for credit. The only possible concern would be where your paper is sold immediately and submitted before yours is checked so that the results show that yours was the one "copied" from the "original."
OP i_will_pass  4 | 17  
Nov 10, 2010 | #11
Freelancewriter, thankyou very much indeed.
Now it was explained properly...
mayur_digitized  - | 74  
Nov 18, 2010 | #12
Do not expect help from experienced members such as WB and WRT. Their only job is to insult ESL writers and to covertly promote their own sites.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Nov 18, 2010 | #13
As several who've PM'ed me via this board know, I do not recommend my services as a writer but, instead, direct them to the mere handful of EXCELLENT independant writers on this board - writers whom I know will offer them EXCELLENT WORK.

Besides, why should I insult competent ESL writers - again, two of the competent ones here work with us. We would hire more if they satisfied our standards but, unfortunately, most here do not - not by a long shot.

In fact, when am asked for my opinion on competitors, I give them an honest, an unbiased opinion of the sites they are asking about.

When specifically asked about a certain member (and even though I dislike him tremendously), I offer an unbiased response - that he is probably a good writer.

If someone PM's and asks about you, on the other hand, I'll tell them to run in the opposite direction :)

Any who care to dispute this, pls feel free to post the PM messages.

I only mentioned my company when I am asked about it by name. In fact, several who wrote to me about having been scammed by a competitor know, full well, that I provided them with entirely new papers FOR FREE. So, Clueless One, I do not use this site to make money or promote my company in any way, shape or form.

So - once again - you've proven yourself an absolutely ignorant moron.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 27, 2012 | #14
I've always openly admitted that my primary reason for being here is to increase my customer base and that I also write for ET/PHDD and for their associated companies.

Paper ResaleI have never posted anything negative about any other essay sites because my knowledge on the topic is strictly limited to the sites I work for and to one other group of sites owned by WRT (Oxbridge and WriteRightTeam) that ripped me off by never paying me for my completed work and then wasted a lot of my time with a series of absolutely ridiculous lies about making arrangements to pay me. (Obviously, none of Hala's promises about paying me while she was "in NYC" for a month ever came true because she was never within thousands of miles of NYC, let alone in the penthouse of any "Trump building" with a personal "chauffeur.")

Defending the commercial sites I write for against blatant lies from competitors doesn't benefit me at all and defending Pheelyks actually conflicts with my financial interests because we're direct competitors for the same pool of potential customers, but anytime I read statements that I know for a fact are complete lies, I defend both of them simply because I think it's the right thing to do. If I were any of the things Stu4 has accused me of being, I'd never go out of my way to defend any company or (especially) another writer who's a direct competitor; I'd simply keep my mouth shut, allow Stu4 and others to lie about them and hope to benefit from people believing those lies and offering me their work instead of them.

I don't "run" or represent, or get paid to defend or promote any commercial website and neither does Pheelyks; we're both just writers for several of them and have always been very honest about that. To my knowledge, WB has no association with any of those sites either. ET and PHDD are different sites owned by SNR and nobody's ever denied that. They have different pricing scales because they offer somewhat different services and policies about reselling papers (ET does but no earlier than a few months after they're written whereas PHDD never resells them at all and charges slightly more partly because of that). I don't blindly defend the sites I write for either. I've always acknowledged that your essay depends on which writer chooses to take it (at any company) and the only thing I've ever said in defense of those companies is that they're 100% legitimate in that they always provide the essay you order; they provide rewrites if the writer screws up; they fire writers for plagiarism; and they always refund your payment 100% anytime a paper cannot be written for any reason.

What I am: A very experienced writer who writes for many commercial sites as well as for freelance customers.

What I represent: Nothing more or less than the truth about myself, the companies I write for, and other writers, even those who compete directly against me when I know that accusations abou them aren't true. Unlike you, I have never disparaged any competing website because I don't operate that way and I've stated many times that I don't know anything about any sites that I've never worked for.

For the record: I have no idea who WB is and I used the PM system here to establish contact by email to fwd a few dozen of the exchanges with WRT/Hala as they were occurring to document my complaint before expecting WB to take my word about it without any proof. Nobody here (including you, if you were honest) really doubts my version of being ripped off by WRT and Hala won't refute it either because she knows that I recorded all of our phone conversations and would just post them here as audio files if she tries to lie about any of it here. There are also 3 or 4 other writers here who reported the exact same pattern of non-payment and endless excuses and promises from Hala that never resulted in payment.

As WB pointed out, if it weren't in direct response to your pathetic untrue attacks on the companies I happen to know about firsthand, I'd never even refer to any of them by name on this forum. I gain absolutely nothing from "promoting" Pheelyks either, because we're competitors, but when I read obvious lies about his writing or business practices, I refute them because I happen to know the truth and don't want people like you to be able to ruin the value of this forum as a legitimate source of information about which writers and companies are trustworthy and which ones aren't.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Oct 28, 2017 | #15
Based on my experience, it could take up to a year for the company to re-sell the paper because of certain safeguards they put into place against the possibility of the paper turning up as "plagiarized". To play safe, after six months to one year, they ask the original writer to revise the whole paper without having to pay the writer anything extra. It is just part of the "revision" process they say. What they don't tell the writers is that the students who originally ordered the paper earn from the "revised paper" because of the referral system in place. 6 months is the equivalent of once college semester. Therefore, it becomes a bit safer to revise and resell the paper in the same university. If the professor is wise, he will keep a file of his old student's papers and he will have software on hand that compares word syntax. That is usually how the plagiarism is caught. The consequences in this instance? The same as any other. Expulsion from the university.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jan 30, 2019 | #16
Actually, reselling those previously written papers constitutes a violation of the Terms of Service which indicates that all rights to the written work transfer to the client in perpetuity.

Academic outsourcing companies that know the importance of honoring the TOS to the future of the client will always honor the electronic agreement. A company that resells the paper, while not really facing any legal ramifications, will not be able to grow their business because the plagiarism checkers will always detect the rework of a previous paper.

Even if they have their best writer revise the content, somehow, the plagiarism program knows. If a student knows that a company resells the papers, then he is in danger of getting a plagiarized paper posing as an original creation. It would be best for the student to not deal with that company at all. My policy, is to have the server purged yearly of old papers that have been stored in it. These papers are always around a year old. I keep it on file only long enough to attend to any revision requests. Once the period has passed, the student no longer has any use for the paper and it is only serving to clutter up my server. So into the trash it goes. Students get no benefit from the reselling of old papers, even if it happens after 4 years.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 30, 2019 | #17
reselling those previously written papers constitutes a violation of the Terms of Service.

Actually, that depends entirely on the TOS of the particular provider. Some of them expressly prohibit their customers from claiming ownership and expressly retain all copyrights for the company, allowing their customers only the right to use any part of the product if they include a formal in-text citation and reference to the company that provided the work. Some of them actually say that their customers may not do anything with their projects other than print out a single copy to read and study it. (Of course, they all do this strictly as a means of trying to create what the law refers to as "plausible deniability" because they obviously know that their clients almost certainly submit their projects for academic credit, because no student who isn't insane would ever "cite" and "reference" any academic essay company as a source in his submitted project.) Others say that the work belongs entirely to the client.

Likewise, the TOS of some companies expressly permit the company to resell the work after a specified time period while others say that they never resell their work at all. Whether or not they honor those promises is very difficult for clients to ascertain and virtually impossible to do anything about if they don't, for various practical reasons. Personally, I give my clients full ownership of any work they commission from me and I've never resold a single project in almost 20 years of doing this for a living.
Study Review  - | 254  
Jul 27, 2019 | #18
permit the company to resell the work after a specified time period while others say that they never resell their work at all

For some reason, I find that the latter is more commonplace. I remember applying for a smaller company who also had to reiterate too me too many times that I am not to reuse papers I've written in the past. It seems as though the owner has had bad experiences with prior writers regarding this.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 27, 2019 | #19
I remember applying for a smaller company who also had to reiterate too me too many times that I am not to reuse papers I've written in the past.

That's a totally different issue from the thread topic: obviously, no essay company that sells custom-written projects ever wants any of its writers passing off any of his old projects as new custom work, whether he originally wrote them for someone else or for himself as a student. Every custom-written project is supposed to be entirely new work produced specifically for the new order. Both customers and companies employing writers have the right to expect exactly that.

However, on the topic of this thread, what I've never really understood is why anybody would care whether a project is resold 6+ months afterwards the way some companies reserve the right to do. I've never resold a project in my life because there's no market for unoriginal projects and because my clients own the copyright to anything I write for them; but I've never understood why anybody cares as long as it's many months after the original client has already used the project.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Feb 05, 2020 | #20
There are some companies that resell the papers after 6 months. It goes into a database along with other similarly themed papers where potential clients can review the essay samples and then buy the one that appeals to them the most. Bear in mind that these are "sample" and "reference" essays. It must not be submitted for a grade. However, I know of some companies that allow the student to purchase the pre-written paper and then pays for the additional service of "paraphrasing" so that the same content can be used, but presented differently. The danger of this practice? Plagiarism software can often detect the paraphrase, which doesn't bode well for the student who wanted to take the easy way to a grade. Either pay for a fresh paper or write the paper yourself. Never buy pre-written essays and research papers. It isn't worth the risk.




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