Do students really hand in essays written by others (and not get caught)?

But your company ACTUALLY encourages customers to hand this in as their own work. You fine writers whose work DOES NOT get the student the grade they wanted. I know this from experience. Would you care to explain why you do this IF, as your site states, students are told to use these as guidelines only?

These companies always regret sending a henchman here--they never seem to learn.

Hi exwriter - customers are asked to verify the quality of the work themselves, not to hand it in. We have a fair use policy on all of our websites that explains how to put the work to good use.

To verify the standard without handing the work in, you could, for example, use a marking service or ask a experienced friend or colleague to look it over. We do have a quality team that reads through everything before we send it out but in any case, if a customer is not happy about the standard, although we'll ask for some specific feedback, we make allowances for the fact that they've come to us for help and often we'll have it graded by another writer who is qualified to a high level in that field. If a customer tells us they've handed it in, we do reserve the right not to deal with them again but moreoften we'll educate them on how to use the service properly.

WB - I enjoy our conversations! :-)

@Jennifer

Again I will ask you the same question

If you claim to be selling model answers not meant for handing in why don't you as the owner of 70 percent of the UK industry act responsibly and give these pieces in to turnitin.com so anyone trying to hand these in can be caught?

and believe me you indeed are promoting plagiarism of a dangerous sort.

MRE, why do you say ********* is a fraud? I've been writing for them for 4 years and my clients are very happy. You can test the site out anytime at very little risk by simply ordering a single page essay to see what you get for your money.

Hi Mak,

I've answered this question in another post for you :)

of course people will try it. Easiest thing to do tho is probably buy one and just rewrite it

Americans are indeed bad at Geography.

Here is a non exhaustive list of Countries where English is the Official Language

ncsu.edu/grad/handbook/official_language_english.htm

Countries where English is spoken

English is officially spoken in: Anguilla, Antigua, Bahamas, Barbados, Belau, Bermuda, Botswana, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Antigua, Australia, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, Bhutan, Botswana, British Virgin Islands, Brunei, Cameroon, Cook Islands, Dominica, Ethiopia, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Gambia, Ghana, Gibraltar, Grenada, Guam, Guyana, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Jamaica, Jersey, Kenya, Kiribati, Lesotho, Liberia, Malawi, Malaysia, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritius, Micronesia, Midway Islands, Montserrat, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, New Zealand, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Pitcairn, Puerto Rico, Samoa, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sri Lanka, St Helena, St Kitts-Nevis, St Lucia, St Vincent and the Grenadines, Swaziland, Tokelau, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, US Virgin Islands, Uganda, United Kingdom, United States, Vanuatu, Wake Island, Western Samoa, Zambia, Zambia, Zimbabwe

Nearly one in five Americans speaks a language other than English at home, the Census Bureau says, an increase of nearly 50 percent during the past decade. Most speak Spanish, followed by Chinese, with Russian rising fast.

boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/10/09/percentage_of_non_english_speaking_americans_surges/

The purpose of bringing this up was to let the fellow members know that they could meet people speaking English as their first language anywhere in the world.

And they would not find every American speaking English as his/her first language.
I am really tired at the moment and dont feel like proofreading this post. =)

With all due respect, just because English is the "official language" of a particular country does not mean that the "English" spoken/written by its citizens could ever pass for "American" English. American clients don't want-or expect-Pidgin English. Similarly, American students don't want an "English" paper written in Cajun (Creole) English, either.

WB:
This is exactly what I am trying to say. Any one and every one in US can not write as well. The English of all American citizens can also not pass for "American" English. Read the last source in my previous post. It highlights the Census problems because of Non-English speaking Americans.

To add more to your knowledge there are US Sponsored educational institutions in many of these countries.
I never said that 100% population of these countries speaks and writes English. However, you would find a good number of people who would be speaking and writing English as their first language.

The whole point behind this was that you should not belittle qualified writers who speak and write English as their first language just because they are not American. Let the American consumers decide what they want you should not spread misinformation that only expensive service providers physically located in US can provide good service. There are English speaking people in every part of the world. Line should be drawn between qualified and unqualified writers. Not every American is a qualified writer nor is every Non-American an unqualified ESL writer.

P.S I am not supporting frauds or those who indulge in false advertising.

Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. This is a site ABOUT fraudulent essay companies and fraudulent essay writers. If you want to hold discourse about the general qualifications of non-essay writers outside of the essay writing industry, you're in the wrong forum.

FACT #1: Only fraudulent companies lie about employing strictly native English-speaking, American writers in order to trick American customers into placing orders.

FACT #2: Cajun (Creole) is an academically unacceptable DIALECT of English that is equally as IMPROPER in American classrooms as the English dialects spoken/written by ESL/EFL writers abroad.

WB :)
I agree with you on both the facts. The point I earlier tried to make was that Non-American does not mean poor quality, ESL Garbage, Fraud and scam.

American does not mean qualified writers and good quality.

These are to be judged independently of being American or Non-American.

When I refer to English speaking population outside US, I refer to people speaking and writing English that would be acceptable as "American" English in any school or university.

I believe we are not discussing something out of the domain of this forum. We are educating other members about scams. They may have been getting a false impression that "Non-American" = scam

In certain cases Non-American service could be as good as any American service and yet cost less.

I would still warn other members that be very careful when dealing online. If you find false advertisement on a website, it is the first indication of a possible scam.

Never once have I claimed such. In fact, I have qualified exactly what I mean on numerous occasions.


So, are you suggesting that the average, ESL writer overseas is as qualified to write-professionally, for money-in the English language as the average, EFL writer in America?


Well, in my experience, those are few and far between. They may get there with further instruction from American professors in America, but cultural differences make it nearly impossible for an ESL writer's text to be indistinguishable from that of an EFL writer in America.


As I have proven time and time again, nearly 100% of foreign (non-American/British/Canadian) sites are fraudulent. Why/how? They blatantly lie about their location, qualifications, and experience. If you feel that my assertion is false, I welcome you to provide evidence. (Don't just claim that I'm wrong because you think that I'm "mean.") I could provide you with a list of about 700 fraudulent, foreign sites that engage in verifiable fraud. Have you seen any of my investigations in this forum?

I have not found a single, American site that engages in verifiable fraud. Believe me, if American sites were engaging in any sort of fraudulent tactics, the scammers from Ukraine, Pakistan, Philippines, etc. would have posted about it 1,000,000 times by now in order to take the well-deserved heat off of themselves.


Every dog has its day. However, American customers shouldn't have to roll the dice every time they order. Tell me-when you go to a restaurant, do you willingly sit at the table knowing that it is overwhelmingly likely that the food you receive will be contaminated? If you were aware of the odds of contamination in advance, I doubt that you'd ever walk through the door.

I do not have any statistics on the averages.

"However, our essay writers complete orders for students from all countries, Australia to Zaire."
Do you know the site I am quoting?
The Site you recommend does not hire Americans only. They hire writers from all countries so would you now please warn everyone about the possible contamination here ;)

I know two American Sites that are involved in Verifiable Fraud! Please do not ask me to name them. I do not have legal evidence.

I so enjoy your posts :D

WB:
I am extremely upset and depressed. Defend this!

At one instance the legit company your recommend says: "Our professional, AMERICAN writers produce new research documents on an individual basis, so our research materials are unique, original, technically precise, and up-to-date."

At another places says: "However, our essay writers complete orders for students from all countries, Australia to Zaire."

Please :(

"Our exclusive and unique Exact-Writer system ensures that we assign your custom research order to a professional, AMERICAN writer with an appropriate college degree in the necessary field of study."

"However, our essay writers complete orders for students from all countries, Australia to Zaire."

I don't understand your point humble. What needs a defense? The company highlights the exclusive employment of American writers. They offer their services to all countries. If someone not from the U.S. doesn't want an American writer, the information is clearly there to let them know they should look elsewhere.

I don't understand your complaint at all. I personally let my clients know I'm American and live in the U.S. Most repeat customers know what state I live in, what my degrees are and where I earned them. If they don't want an American writer, they can look elsewhere. So...?

Lavinia, like you, I do not at all understand Humble's criticism. You beat me to it. :) There's literally nothing for me to defend or rebuke. The site hires only native writers who write papers for students around the world. Clearly, Humble is confused about something.


I have not recommended any site. Please stop making false statements.

My bad My bad. Yea I did get confuse. And for a moment I thought there does not exist a single honest essay writing company and that did make me upset.

I have a slight problem with my eye sight. I miss out commas, and mix words when my eyes are even slightly strained.
And on top of that I have an 11" screen :D

I absolutely love your humour! You are very good with words and extremely quick on the draw! Keep it up! :)

mre: I applaud you!

Writers beware get in touch.

Sometimes the student gets caught, more often than not, they do not get caught. It all depends upon the circumstances such as:

- The writing skill of the student (and if the paper is too different from that writing style)
- The grade standing of the student in class ( A C student suddenly turning in an A+ or A paper is normally a red flag)
- The dedication of the teacher to actually checking for plagiarism in the work of the students

Students need to work with the writers so that they can help each other tread that delicate balance between academic assistance (and submission for a grade) and the current class performance of the student.

Students can easily get away with handing in someone else's work as their own. It happens all the time. The teacher's do not tend to overcheck the homework students turn in these days. Why would they? They are overworked and underpaid anyway. The teachers will pass any student who meets the requirements to move up the next academic year. The only reason a student could get caught is if he is so badly on the wrong side of the teacher that there comes a need to take the student down a peg or two. Otherwise, only blatantly plagiarized work would get caught and cause problems for the student.