turnitin.com question about using the student version

I really need help!!!!!!Do you know if I use this student version of turnitin on my own before submitting my paper to my professor, and then if my teacher wants to check my essay again just in case with the regular turnitin, can it come out as plagiarized? Also, would it get stored in their database if I have the option to not let it. Thanxx.

No it won't store and wont come up as plagiarized.
The student version does not store papers in the database.

Hi humble, you sound very sure about this. How do you know that?

Thx.

Do you mean WriteCheck for Students? Nope. Your essay won't be submitted to turnitin database.

There is a risk that it might be stored and the student resubmitting the paper be accused by the univresity of plagirism

No, there is not that risk, SpamMyAssignment. Turnitin's student service is designed as a means fo checking for plagiarism without storing the paper, though I don't really understand why this service exists. Accidental plagiarism doesn't really happen all that often, so checking work that you yourself have completed for plagiarism shouldn't need to happen...

If you are really the student version of turnitin, then there's no risk. Of course, there are very few, isolated issues, which indicate that some bugs occur with the service. If it happens to you though, man that sucks.

Using TurnitIn is a very tricky situation for most students. The company has been known to say it won't store your information their database but they do anyway. It is always best, in my opinion to steer clear of checking your essay or research paper via this service. There are other services online that actually do not store your data in their system, which as safe to use. However, there will always be instances of plagiarism detected in any essay that uses in-text citations or paraphrasing within for a quotation. These instances are usually forgivable within a certain percentage. That is why teachers and professors tell the students these days that they may only have X number of quotes or X percentage of in-text citations in their essay. That is the best way to avoid accidental plagiarism, and also, helps the student to not need to use a plagiarism checking service that could work against him once the assignment is submitted. Usually a 30% threshold for in-text citations / plagiarism is what professors use when they run the paper through their approved plagiarism checker.

The actual threshold for plagiarism these days is at 20%. The professors are trying to educate the students to use more paraphrasing rather than in-text citations in their research papers. I believe that they changed the plagiarism threshold because they want to actually find out if the student really understood what he was reading instead of just using the citation as a word filler in order to meet the word count. This is a positive development in my opinion because the writers who rely mostly on cut and paste methods of writing the papers for various students now need to make sure that they actually earn the money they are being paid.

By needing to prove that they understand the text through paraphrasing rather than in-text citations, not only does the plagiarism possibility sink, but the writers who are not ENL tend to lose their jobs. Mostly because they use cut and paste methods to meet the client requirements, which makes the paper a turnitin problem. If the writers and students use more paraphrasing rather than in-text citations, turnitin can eventually be rendered useless in terms of proving plagiarism.

Just out of curiosity, what is your natural language, because it's obviously not English, based on your use of articles and idioms, and based on your vocabulary. For just one example, I believe you have the concept of "in-text citation" totally confused with the concept of block quoting. Whenever you "paraphrase" any idea from any source, you still need a citation for that source, which usually takes the form of an in-text citation, like this: (Jones, 2017). There's no such thing as "paraphrasing" anything (even if you rewrite the idea entirely in your own words) without a citation that doesn't amount to plagiarism for using someone else's intellectual ideas and presenting them as your own, which is exactly what you're doing if you don't cite whatever you've "paraphrased."


Where are you getting this information? Because if you mean that the threshold for properly-cited quoted material is 20%, that's plausible, precisely because it's not "plagiarism" to use quotes with proper attribution, but professors still don't want students filling up their essays with quotes (even properly-cited ones) instead of their own ideas and arguments. However, if you're suggesting that professors allow students to actually plagiarize 20% of their writing, that sounds ridiculous to me, because it means that a student could literally copy & paste a full page of material for every five pages of an assignment. There is no professor who allows students to copy & paste material for one-fifth of written projects.

I'm not saying (any of) this for the purpose of insulting you, but ever since you joined this forum, you've been dispensing advice as though you're an experienced professional writer; but quite a lot of what you say either makes no sense or completely contradicts other things that you say, often in the same post. It's also quite obvious that you cannot possibly be an experienced professional writer.

Where did you get this from?

Are you suggesting that paraphrasing exempts the students from in-text citing?

The threshold or allowance percentage applies to flagged content that is generally common words or phrases. The student is still responsible for making sure paraphrasing is properly cited in every instance and that direct quotes are minimal (if allowed at all). While professors look (should should look) at the paper to see what the flagged areas apply to, the standard is below 15%. It also depends on the respective university's policies as I've seen some require less than 10%. I've never seen 20%. I'm not saying it's not possible as, like I said, each university has its own allowances. However, as a write or student, I'd be careful to keep the % below 10 to be safe. And even then, it depends on what that 10% shows as to whether a paper will be deemed as plagiarized.

The thing is, the professors are getting sick and tired of reading in-text citations without proper explanations in the paper from the student. It is almost like the in-text citations have become the go-to word fillers for the students. Hence the more recent requirement of less citations, more paraphrasing instead. Paraphrased sections still need to be cited anyway.

The goal of the professor is to prove to himself that the student actually understood what the citation is all about and how it applies to his research. Anybody can pick a section of previously published text that is relevant to his research and then use it to help fill the page. The student may or may not care about understanding the text as long as it "sounds like" it is relevant to the paper being written. That is why the citation threshold has been lowered from year to year. It is about forcing the students to learn more while outside of the classroom setting.

The best thing to do is simply not submit your essays for plagiarism checking on your own . Just leave the plagiarism checking to the professor or teacher. That is, if he or she will even really bother to do so. If you are lucky, a professor will accept your paper and grade it without question. Students tend to use the same sources over and over again so there are some professors who give students the benefit of the doubt. That is, unless there are whole chunks of the paper that seem to be taken from another source that the professor can seem to recall. That is when he or she will most likely run your paper through the checker. That is why I do not believe students should submit their paper for a review, even if it is a student version. I do not do any plagiarism checks either and I do not do that with my writers either. Not unless the student specifically requests that it be done. I always try to avoid getting the paper stored in any database as a precaution.

I never really understood the need to scan anything that you know you actually wrote, yourself. Either you copied some of the source material or you didn't, and you shouldn't need any kind of program to tell you that. If your "writing" process is simply rephrasing the source material into your own words, you could simply copy/paste the source material into a Word doc and then use the Compare function in MS Word to check your working document against the original text, side by side. However, I wouldn't recommend that writing process, because, as I explained earlier in this thread, if your entire essay merely paraphrases or "rewrites" the original ideas of your sources in your own words, it's still 100% plagiarism even if you change every single word of the original, because the ideas you're expressing aren't your own original ideas if you're just rewriting the source material in different words. If you need to do a plagiarism scan on your own writing, that probably means that's exactly what you're doing; so just use the Compare function instead of uploading the work to some program that probably stores it and/or claims ownership to it under its TOS.

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Thanks.

Students have not been taught well in schools these days when it comes to developing their research and opinion papers. I have seen papers that use cut and paste excerpts from other people's work that they do not deserve a passing grade. There are some that start citing at the very start of the essay then defend it by saying that is the whole premise of their paper. Others say that they are contradicting a cited opinion. None of the way students write their papers, without the help of AI or a ghost writer, makes sense these days. So worrying about how much plagiarism turnitin might find is laughable at this point.