How to use writing services properly ?

I have been looking many essay writing sites and its well commented here too that students can use these writing services just as a guide to do their own works...

Please, can anybody explain me properly what is using it as a guide ?

Study the paper and then write what you understand of it??

Now for the students : DO YOU RE-WRITE THE PAPER LIKE THEY SUGGEST ?

Be sincere....

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it's a ruse for lawyers... some students actually do it, especially if they are worried about getting caught. I think that most don't.

caught by their mistrusted supervisors or by the plagiarism checker?

what they're worried about depends on if they buy custom or re-sold essays, how well the professor knows their writing voice, etc.

you know what a lawyer is. if you don't know what a ruse is, look it up.

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Essay Outline/draft help vs. Actual Essays for sale ---how to get a little more than "help"

I have spent he last hour reading multiple threads, and am a believer that the intent is to genuinely "call out" frauds. MeoKhan and WritersBeware seem to know about everything out there, and the people posting (kind of scary, but really cool at the same time). ANY much needed direction would be appreciated.

I have 2 papers (5 pages each) for the last english class I will EVER have to take, as I only need ENG1B to move on for my business degree. I am a husband and father and just went back to school last year or so and am desperate to get help, thus my being on this site. I have actually read the book required, but am clamming up when it comes to writing the paper.

Are there services that will make an outline draft for you if given the book and topic? Then I can use the "shell" to fill in the details and quotes since I actually did the reading? I know it sounds ridiculous for 5 pages but I have no time, hate English classes, and work tons of hours a week.

You guys have scarred me strait from just trying to have a random site write it for me, and I have kept a log of the ones NOT to use...but I can't find any others...even for this 1/2 request. What do you think?

If you are not a smart student - the only thing you could do is search through google and try and choose a company that seems honest. Otherwise, search on this site or use services that are recommended here.

You can always ask for an outline by just paying for an additional page or two and explaining what you need. The only thing you can't do is ask for an outline with a 5-pg paper order and expect a full 5 pages plus the outline for the price of 5 pages. Same goes for annotated bibliographies because they require at least a page of writing for every 2-3 references.

The kind of "shell" outline you're asking about is unusual but certainly can be done. It's a little weird though because students usually know what they want to cover and need help with the actual writing, not vice-versa. But you can always order just an outline of a topic and ask for the writer to create subheadings, bullet points for each heading, and maybe a list of references to use. You can also ask for a "full sentence" outline. It's your money: as long as the amount of work requested is fair for the price, there's no reason that order wouldn't get completed; I've done a handful of them.

Don't expect a full word count of 275-300 wds/pg. You'll get a 1-2 page outline nicley formatted but it won't be the same wordcount as a page or two of text. You can insist on that, but the arrangement and organization takes time and if you go by wordcount, most of us experienced writers who have plenty of work aren't going to bother taking an order for "300-wd 1-pg outline" because that takes a lot longer than just writing out a page's worth of straight text and it's impossible to format 300 words into a 1-pg outline without going into at least 2 pages.

Are there any indicators as to what would be considered "honest"? Again, I understand you can't give recommendations, but any direction would be appreciated.

This site seems to be focused on protecting the consumer in this market. Are there websites or blogs that review/rank writing services ... vetted or not?

Better question...Do you guys keep a list of sites that have had multiple or more than usual complaints logged? This way as I search I have a reference point?

You really don't need to look much further than this forum. There are many threads on the issue and you can probably weed through the scammers by taking note of who the respected critics are here and what writers they refer to as being legitimate without necessarily endorsing us.

As Freelancewriter has stated above, this forum is enriched with loads of information on numerous kinds of scams, legit companies, and countless experiences shared by different customers and writers. However, to reach to the needle, you need to put some efforts.

There are one of two indicators eg a companies house number is a good sign as is business account with a high street bank. Call them and ask them questions and then take things from there if you feel reasonably confident

1. This is NOT a UK forum.

2. Any moronic scammer can pay a small fee to acquire a "Companies House Number." It is in no way whatsoever an indicator of quality or trustworthiness.

3. Please don't misrepresent as fact what is only your ill-informed and incorrect speculation.

1. This is NOT a UK forum. I know but i think most members on here are British or study in the UK

2. Any moronic scammer can pay a small fee to acquire a "Companies House Number." It is in no way whatsoever an indicator of quality or trustworthiness. True but its a good sign since the companies house perform a credit search on the director so you have to have a UK address and need to be solvent.

3. Please don't misrepresent as fact what is only your ill-informed and incorrect speculation. Its neither ill-informed or incorrect speculation. I think you'll find that most if not all scam sites do not have a companies house number. If it was that simple to get as you're suggesting then surely they'd get one wouldn't they.

Why do you think that?


I could have a UK address within an hour if I wanted one. Despite the mortgage on my house, I'm sure I could also easily pass the credit check performed So could anyone with decent credit living in Kenya, Ukraine, India....


Yes, it really is. Both.


Wrong.


By that logic, all legitimate companies--whether or not they operate in the UK--would want to get one, too. Just as US-based companies can get plenty of customers without registering with the Companies House and needing to pay the associated fees (and possibly taxes--not sure how that works)--some scam companies get enough business without even trying to appear legitimate. Others try to appear more legitimate in order to attract more business, or because they are actually UK-based scams (like the Oxbridge folks and Academic Answers folks).

Pheelyks i actually worked for a bank for 2 yrs and knows the ins and outs of credit searches. If you got an UK address within an hour that would NOT automatically create a credit file for you. We would trace your history 3 yrs back. That would be too easy for a someone looking to create an ID to take out multiple loans don't you think.

I agree that a companies number is a good sign but not necessarily the ultimate sign.

That's not what I was saying at all. Try reading a little more carefully. I already have a decent credit history, which is completely separate from having a UK address. The UK address, I assume, needs to be an address of legal service, but not a residence. I also assume that foreign nationals are allowed to set up companies in the UK, like they are in most of the world. If I'm wrong on either of these points, by all means let me know, but you've completely misconstrued my point.

They could do i suppose but when it comes to paying tax their cover will be blown

They could do what? And who's to say a scam company wouldn't pay taxes? I can (as far as I'm aware) perfectly legally set up a company in the UK without ever setting foot there. I would almost certainly need an agent of some sort in the country, but I don't need to live there, work there, or ever even be there in order to do business and pay taxes there. Companies can find legal ways to scam customers, too, or just do a large enough volume of business that the high proportion of chargebacks doesn't do enough to hurt their bottom line.

Firstly, "neither" is a friend of "nor." Secondly, a question should end with a question mark. Thirdly, CH costs money, something on which most of the scammers from Kenya, Pakistan, etc. are short.

something on which, should be something of which :)

"Short on money" is correct; "short of money" is not. You have a long way to go before you start correcting how other people write--you're still on basic reading comprehension.

yes, Short on money is correct but something on which is incorrect so i think its you who has a long way to go :)

First, "on which" isn't automatically incorrect--it depend entirely on the context of the sentence. Second, the phrase "short on money" is broken up and reordered in this sentence, but it is still the grammatical unit at work here. You're only digging the hole of your stupidity deeper.

maybe shouldnt use them at all?..

What a fantastic philosophical question to ask in a five-year-old thread... and so well-put. When should we expect the spam?

Heinrich doesn't appear up to the spam so here it is, sweet cakes.

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While all the academic outsourcing companies indicate that the students only get a "model paper", which they should not turn in for a grade, the reality is that a majority of the students turn the paper in for a grade. No amount of disclaimers and strongly worded advice from the company will dissuade students from doing this. To clarify, most of the students who do this are those hopeless ESL or EFL students who don't have a prayer of passing their classes whether or not they have additional academic help. The ENL students know precisely what to do with the model paper though. They either paraphrase the content, without touching the in-text citations in order to make their writing job easier or, they actually read the essay in totality then write their own version. The difference? They use the same sources the paid writer uses, but they change the placement or presentation in order to create a fresh paper. The latter method being the correct way to use the papers that writing services and independent writers produce for their clients.

Yes, we can use it. It is of no harm.
if they are guiding us then yes its good to do your work by yourself.
it is good to write your assignment with some expert guidance.

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While I have had students who honestly just use the paper as a model, they rewrite the paper to suit their own writing capacity as known to their teacher or professor, I have also had students who simply don't care about the Oath of Academic Conduct that they took when they enrolled in the university. They use the paper as is and turn it in for a grade. They are satisfied with any grade, as long as it isn't a failing score. These are the students who do not know how to use a writing service properly. They do not revise the paper at all because they figure that since they paid for an original paper, it should be good enough to turn in for a grade. Which, if you think about it, is logical. The problem is that some professors are wise to the tricks of the students who barely come to class but can turn in stellar papers. That is not how to use a writing service and such practices, although not always detrimental to the student, could prove to be a problem for some severely low performers in class.

Not necessarily. Sometimes, it's the students capable of writing A papers who don't bother coming to class at all, especially if the grade in the class is substantially based on the paper. As a junior and senior in college, I "majored" in one particular history professor, precisely because he assigned one paper for each of his courses and that paper determined your whole grade. I did the same thing through law school after my first year, because (with the exception of 1 or 2 Legal Writing classes), the final exam was the only determinant of our grades. In my experience writing essays for a living for almost 20 years, fewer than 1 in every 100 clients do anything more than add a cover page before handing in whatever I write for them. In fact, I've had more clients actually request the cover page done for them than clients who plan on "rewriting" anything in the essay. They're not paying us to leave any writing to them.

Ever since the pandemic forced the students to use home schooling methods, parents and students alike have found that together, they can pretty much come up with a decent paper for the student to submit to the teacher. The problem is, they usually have no idea where to start or the parents are too busy with their WFH tasks that they can only supervise the writing the kids do in-between. I think that this is why I have seen a surge in orders from students and/or parents to have the writers simply outline the writing process for the research paper, take information from the provided text for potential citation use, and make suggestions as to which parts of the essay should be better developed or highlighted in the presentation. I believe that this is the proper way to use a writing service. I think that the pandemic has actually helped in a way. Students and parents are now helping each other in the learning process and the model / academic writers, provide the back up services that they need to complete the task.