No, he doesn't. The writer is still just a writer and his activities are still not criminal, period. Take your defamation tactics elsewhere. :)

More? Hilarious. ^_^

Cool. Let us know if that "direction" that you say WB led you to went anywhere. :)

You're a riot. >.<

Yeah, sure. ^_^ FreelanceWriter, pheelyks, and OR, do you think that WB is right in calling me and other competent ESL writers who work for ew and ar as freelance writers, criminals? Wait, OR already gave her answer (no, right?), so that leaves pheelyks and FreelanceWriter. Well?


All companies are guilty of this, not just ew. If we consider this a criminal offense then we are all criminals.

I gotta take some shuteye. I hope that more people vote so that we can at least make it clear that competent ESL writers who work for EW, AR or any other company are not criminals even if they read this forum and are aware of the proofs posted here against their respective employer/s. Good night folks. ^_^

God.. you get one opinion that doesn't agree with you and you go ballistic. >.< What's wrong with you? >.<


Your statements mean what you want them to mean, and you change what you want them to mean when you need to. It's sad but that's who you are, WB. We all know it. Now, why don't you keep your crappy opinions and let the good people here vote on the matter that you asked them to vote on? ^_^ Oh, and goodnight to you too. :p

Like I said.


I'd love to explain the simple lessons of the course to you and how your previous posts show how much of an idiot you are, but those lessons don't come free and the latter is pretty evident to everyone reading this thread.


Haha! Now you're trying to gain support from other people here who are against chacha by making it appear to them that I'm with that essay restaurateur. Don't you think that you're seriously undermining the intelligence of the people that you're trying to get on your side? Pathetic.

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Someone seriously needs to take a course on semantic logic. ^_^

Btw, it's EW_writer-1, WB-0 on the debate of whether or not competent ESL writers who work for sites like EW or AR are criminals. Plus if we count your vote based on the quoted statement above, that would make EW_writer-2, WB-0 with you actually voting against yourself. >.< Funny, isn't it? :D I hope you don't mind my keeping count but you did ask for it. ^_^

If there was such a debate, I wasn't a part of it. I never claimed that bestessays is an honest company. >.<


That's what I'm talking about.


Exactly, which proves that you have utterly no right to call me a criminal.

Where's the debate, again? ^_^

boom8088

Very interesting. I'm very glad that another competent ESL writer has spoken out. ^_^ I do have one question for you though. What made you conclude that writing students' homework for money is a criminal activity?

There we go again trying to scare potential clients. It won't work, bub. Clients can clearly see that they are in a lot more risk trusting companies based in the U.S. and bound by U.S. laws than foreign companies that would never be compelled to sell them out. :)

O.o err... are you nuts? o.O My true passion is pummeling you senseless in every senseless argument that you make which is exactly what I've just done, AGAIN. ^_^

Also, I never said that I was retracting my claim that essay mills are indeed breaking the law in many states by selling homework to students. I was only stating that IF that was not the case for American companies, then students should not buy from them at all. Why buy from a company that DOES NOT allow you to turn in what you bought for credit? That's what you bought the stuff for in the first place!

Even the people who write for ET admit that clients use their work for credit so your posts as usual, mean nothing relevant.

Hey but if you insist, then we should all warn students against ordering from ET and all the other companies that supposedly don't sell them papers that they can turn in for credit. At the very least, students should be made aware in this forum that they're not supposed to submit papers that they buy from ET as their own. See how double-edged that sword is? :p

Like I said, you have to ask your bank for that. However, the excuse that they're giving you about large amounts is a lie. You should be paid according to the dates stated in your earnings report, give or take a few days to a week for occasional delays.

The information you are asking about can be found from your bank. IMO though, paypal is a much faster way to get paid by ew. If they're telling you otherwise, they're lying. However, so long as you didn't plagiarize any of the orders you wrote, I'm pretty sure you'll get paid everything you're owed.

Oh sure.. when things don't go your way, they're "falsehoods." :) As for the rest of your "legal claims," put a sock in them. It's the same stuff over and over again, all meant to convince clients against patronizing foreign sites. The CNN report clearly shows that all such efforts are futile. Like it or not, we have infiltrated the American market and we're here to stay. :p

I don't have a law degree as well but I'm reasonably confident that my being a writer for ew does not make me an accessory to any fraud. If people would care to point out existing laws to the contrary, I invite them to go right ahead.


Actually, my statement implied that all essay mills (not just American ones) are liable to the laws against selling homework that do exist in many states (one actual law has been referenced by humble somewhere in this message board).


Thanks.


I'm actually cool with all that. If I could get them to change their highly oppressive and unfair business model, I would. Heck, I've tried so many times before already. One time I even brought up that it may be a good move for them to take out the "All-American" guarantees from their feeder sites to make them look more transparent. They simply denied to me that their feeder sites had any such "All-American" guarantees. Aside from that, I'm actually doing a lot less work for them nowadays than I used to in previous years because I've found other foreign sites that also pay well. My only point here really is that people shouldn't shoot their mouths off at foreign writers and call them criminals just because they work for sites like ew. While such a cretin exists in this board, I won't stop making life a living hell for it. ^__^


I know what you mean. >.<

Lies hurt too so again, fu*- you. You call us criminals as a cheap way to ward off customers. While I don't think that works (since I actually get more direct clients from just talking to you and proving that I'm your better), I also don't think that any person would appreciate being called a criminal when he or she isn't one.


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Who's trying to gain support again? :) You're just so pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

Again, I extend the question to all other members of this board, especially the ones who I often disagree with. Are the people who write for foreign sites that advertise as American sites criminals?

F?*k you. Writing for essaywriters.net DOES NOT make us criminals even if we know that they're lying about where they are located. We're not criminals, we're just really good competition. :D

Anyone else here wanna call people who work for foreign sites that advertise as American sites criminals? C'mon, let's hear it.

ROFLMAO! So what's that writer's first language? :P


Tsk tsk.. fallacy of equivocation. :) I though you were better than this.... not. :D

Learn to read, a**hole.


You call me and every other writer who admits working for essaywriters.net a criminal, and THAT shows everyone here how desperate you are in taking down competition that has acquired a significant share of the market.

Oh, and how you cling on to other people's words reminds me of a National Geographic episode I watched on leeches. ^_^

But we've heard all this before and in no way does this answer the question posed in this thread. ^_^ It's funny though how you added that bit of foreign writers being hired through "trusted business connections" and not Essay Tracker's general hiring system after I pointed out what your statement implied.

Also, let me point out that humans typically learn their first language by age 2 but don't generally start schooling until age 4. ^_^ Which means that an African writer who is sent to the U.S. to enter preschool and is made to stay there until he graduates from Harvard is still technically an ESL f*king WRITER no matter HOW GOOD HE WRITES!!! Woohooo! :D

IMO, all ethical issues concerning this industry are trivial since the very purpose of essay mills is itself, morally questionable. Deceit is at the very core of this industry and certain people should stop calling foreign writers criminals just because they work for offshore sites.

Sorry, like the rest of the humiliating episodes that we've put you through, you're not going to live this one down that easy.

The more you struggle, the longer this thread will be up here for all those potential clients to see. :p It's funny coz I do recall you stating that you would not engage me in conversation anymore, and that if you did, you would do so in a civilized fashion.

Civilized huh? :)

Again, an open question: given the information posted here which are

1.) Essay Tracker's hiring policies as written on their website
2.) The results of WritersBeware's interview of Essay Tracker's customer care representatives

Did Essay Tracker lie about hiring/not hiring foreign writers?

Oh and WB, it's my thread so technically, you're the one who should get lost if you don't like what's being discussed here. :)

But foreign writing companies in general don't sell s-i* essays. There are many scam sites but let's be fair about which ones are downright scams and which ones just have very bad business policies. There are competent writers in the English language whose first language is not English and who don't live in the U.S. and these foreign companies are the only companies where such writers can get hired.

How is this response irrelevant, nonsensical, or personally offensive?

Too easy. :)

Fine points about the CNN report for foreign writers:

1.) The reporter did admit that more and more American students are seeking help from writers who are situated in places as far as India or Pakistan (whether they know it or not). This trend at the very least shows that foreign writers have clearly infiltrated the American market. We have taken our share of the proverbial pie and it is most certainly a significant piece if not a lion's share.

2.) The report clearly stated that the business we are all engaging in is illegal in many states. This ends the debate on who are criminals in this line of work and who are not.

O.o Didn't the word "if" in itself indicate an uncertainty on my part as to whetehr or not you got into trouble again? :p Haha! What's funny is how you pop up in this thread despite the fact that I didn't lie about anything and that you promised somewhere here not to engage me in conversation anymore. :) Oh wait, you also said in one other thread that you didn't want to take part in this message board anymore. You're a very, very changeable gal. :p

Now, how about waiting for some other people to comment on my question before blowing your top again? :)

A delicious beverage served only at essaybrunch (sorry chacha, I couldn't resist) :D

No need to fret, I'm just asking a very objective question based on objective information. If all this is getting you into trouble again, then I'm sorry... not. :P

Sigh.. no matter how much you try to make it appear that I'm wrong, ET's BLATANT LIE is right there for everyone to see. :) Have a nice day,

Nope, but you are. Both. :)

Cool. Never said bestessays was perfect (it's far from it). All I was saying was that like you said, the report wasn't on determining the general quality of bestessay's output.


Do YOU have proof? :p Sigh...


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The same way you assert that anyone who posts against ET is a fake? No, thanks. :)

You fail to see the point. The fact that foreign writers are "thriving" means that while there are some customers who end up not being satisfied with the work they get, much more are satisfied and probably end up ordering more work.


Try to school them, dips-i*. I don't take lessons from people who can't count. If CNN got this wrong, then they should acknowledge it. Until they do, I'd trust them more than I'd trust the legal opinions of anyone here (no offense to those who offered their opinions in the past).


How many of those complaints are genuine and how many are made up by the competition? :P

Last time I checked, "exception" and "mandatory" as well as "exception and "non-negotiable" don't mix. :D But hey, anyone else want to comment on WB's rationalization of this matter? ^_^


Right, which makes it a much more effective marketing tool. Customers are led to think that the company is really serious about not hiring ANYONE who doesn't live in the countries mentioned when in fact, THEY DO. I think that clearly fits the definition of a lie.

Fine points about the CNN report for foreign writers:

1.) The reporter did admit that more and more American students are seeking help from writers who are situated in places as far as India or Pakistan (whether they know it or not).

This trend at the very least shows that foreign writers have clearly infiltrated the American market.

We have taken our share of the proverbial pie and it is most certainly a significant piece if not a lion's share.

2.) The report clearly stated that the business we are all engaging in is illegal in many states. This ends the debate on who are criminals in this line of work and who are not.

What about bestessay's "F"? If CNN was really serious about determining the general quality of products that come from bestessays or any other writing site for that matter, they would have made more than just one order. In fact with the same budget, they could have ordered three different papers from bestessays instead of just one.

The report simply wanted to relay a final message that students should not make use of essay writing sites in general.

I don't think that anyone here can claim that that one output accurately reflects the overall ability of ESL writers.

Unless the meanings of the words "mandatory" and "non-negotiable" have changed, you definitely did prove that ET is just as much a liar as any other company. :D

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Err.. the assumption is that the business IS new. If the owners haven't had any interaction with their writers at all, then how can you or they for that matter even claim that they have competent writers? o.O

I just saw it. Cool report!!! :D Woohoo! The company I work for was on t.v.!!! ^____^ Thanks for sharing, chinedu. :) My only gripe is that I didn't get to write the Blair essay. It would have really made my day if my work was showcased on CNN. >.<

By leading them to think that they have no other choice but *********? That's some help. ^_^