What is a 'professional'? Without defining the word precisely, any debate on whether writers who write cheat essays for students is just hot air.

Do academic writers need professional qualifications? No. Those with professional qualifications are often very poor writers and not very intellectual at all - everyone has a degree these days.

Are academic writers part of a profession? No, not as 'profession' is usually defined.

Academic essay writers are hired hands and hacks who are usually NOT empoyed at all - they are paid by the word for freelance work.

Anyone may be able to do anything PROFESSIONALLY - i.e. in a professional manner. One can clean a toilet in a professional manner, or shovel the proverbial. THAT is not the same thing as a 'profession'.

Sadly, contributors to this thread seem very poor and sloppy writers themselves if they cannot define a term before debating it. That would lose lots of marks in any essay or 'a research' as a poster states. One must be precise and clear when writing academic essays - define what one means and explore meanings. Perhaps invest in a dictionary or two...

OxbridgeResearchers, you are a scream! Talking about a union! HA! Yeah right! I really bet your little company (one which implies it has Oxbridge writers in its very name which you use to promote it here against the forum rules)would treat writers fairly and recognise a union! HA HA HA! Look at your attitude sister - if you are like your posts you are best avoided by all potential writers - probably, you see them just as your slaves eh...

Honest agencies do not attempt to deceive in misleading advertising actually. You yet again try and disparage the competition - a company which DOES have Oxbridge writers. (I have no connection with this company Oxbridge Essays but do see it as legitrimate unlike companies that claim to have Oxbridge educated writers when they do not like OxbridgeResearchers). Don't like the truth though eh. Bad loser eh? Sad. Never mind, you are being ignored by anyone who matters, as always...

Also, let's be honest here: all essay companies are there to assist students, often EFL students to cheat - yes, CHEAT - we all know that so let's call a spade a spade eh! So noone here has the moral high ground - the moral gutter, perhaps, but... Why not have a Union for shoplifters too or those who seel knives to criminals...

As for 'qualified' writers. Give me a break! There are a great many people with degrees and masters - and many who work at universities - whose academic level is mediocre at best. Especiallly these days when standards have plummeted in the rush to dumb down and attract foreign cash cow students. No-one should EVER trust anyone's qualifications ever again. Everyone has a pirce of paper now and many are as unitellectual as it is possible to be - and many cannot write a decent essay (or a letter come to that, or perhaps even spell their name correctly).

All one can say is this: look at an sample of writing done by a writer (EFL or not) and judge them on that. Loads of bad writers have masters and PhDs for sure, as do loads of bad teachers and mediocrities. This is 2009, not 1959 here! TRUST NOONE AND NOTHING!

But yes, for subject knowledge EFL writers can be as good as native English writers, though EFL writers' work often needs proof reading and corrections, and as this is one thing that essay customers struggle with, so they are not always suitable.

But PLEASE not getting on moral high horses from cheater essay agencies - admit the service you provide exists to facilitate cheating. Not so hard to be honest really, if you try...

Phleelks - ah but the point I am making is that OxbridgeResearchers makes SUCH a big thing out of supposedly being so honest and open, contrasting herself to other sites that she slates regularly to promote her tiny company, and I have exposed her as dishonest and deceitful. She uses Tunritin in a way they prohibit and no doubt promotes her site at her 'university' without informing managers. She also attempts to convince people her company's writers have Oxbridge degrees when they do not. Some people have been called scammers for less.

Rusty - first, most posts on this site are boring as are your usual abusive insults and silly tedious arguments and bullying of anyone who points out how boring your are and how this site is NOT inbiased - it's run by the Russian guy who owns ********* and so some posts get removed and others which are more abusive and libellous remain. People should be aware of that.

No-one said American English was 'wrong' - you clearly can't read very well - but then, only 31% of US graduate have prose literacy so you may need guidance here. I criticised OxbridgeResearchers (who is in the UK) for using American English because she cannot SEE that it is American English and then have the temerity (hilarious actually) to criticise my good British English. Still, perhaps she can 'do the math' better than she 'do the engleeesh'?

The fact the she is NOT answering my questions proves my point. WHY is she not answering? Why? Because she is attempting to deceive and has a lot to hide - and like you, just respond with abusive to try and distract attention from her wrongdoing. It won't work - Turnitin and her university and trading standards and the police are on to her, and she will have to deal with that. Her problem.

I am stalking no-one; I am exposing a dishinest person - kind of the point of this MB eh? Oh no I forgot - this MB exists just so retards like you can bicker all day long abusing people because you haven't got enough to do. Time hard eh? Ah...

And actually, Rusty, who asked for your opinion? Take a hint yourself retard and 'butt out' as you would no doubt say. Fool.

I notice that, yet again, you do not respond to any question asked of you. Instead you engage in schoolgirl pigtail-pulling in a childish and abusive manner. Your problem.

This is a message board and anyone can use any posting name here - that is in no way deceitful behaviour.

However, using the posting name OxbridgeResearchers to advertise your company is against the rules of this forum (though your essay scam friends will always allow another similar essay scam person to post lies), is really deceitful.

As is dissing and spreading false rumours about all your competition to try and adversely affect them and state how much better your insignificant little essay company is in contrast (HA!) - that is really underhand and devious, as is using the name Oxbridge when you have no Oxbridge connection. Anyone would think you were trying to decieve customers and confuse your little company with major competition who do use writers with Oxbridge degrees.

How many writers with Oxbridge degrees do you have again? And what percentage is that of your writer pool? Come on Hala, don't be shy...

As Asif said again and again: answer the questions you have been asked Hala. If you do not and just post morer childish abuse then we shall all assume you really do have something to hide and are really rattled by being asked such questions.

And why are you using Turnitin and breaking their rules? Are you proud of scamming Turnitin? Why don't you give them a call and come clean? You really are such a genius of course (HA!) you will be able to convince them of how an illiterate who speaks awful Americanese English like you deserves a licence out of sympathy; if you send them a photo too I am they'll all pity you, perhaps after vomiting...

Yes OxbridgeResearchers I have got you seriously rattled eh? Your problem actually, and I am sure you will have a good slimey excuse prepared for your 'university' and Turnitin who know your name HK and where you live.

You are clearly too thick to tell the difference between a typo and an actual error - your Americanese is rather typical of ill-educated graduates in the UK.

Do the 'math'? Oh dear oh dear. Learn to speak English and not the weird Africanese Americanese mumbo-jumbo that you spew on here day in day out like the obsessive basket case you are Hala K. For example, British English says 'do the maths', and the correct spelling is 'libellous' not libelous'. No real language errors in anything you quote from my post, just typing errors. You really are a fool - you attempt to correct my correct English with mistakes! You utter utter twit!

Please do not try to be clever - it really doesn't suit you sweetheart and you make yourself look so vain, deluded and stupid by doing so.

Your response proves my point exactly.

Care to tell us all how many writers for your company have any qualifications from Oxbridge? Let me see, would it be absolutely none? Why are you scared of the truth Hala? Why do you just insult others when they ask you reasonable questions - what have you got to hide? If nothing, then why are you so shy eh?

But please, keep posting here (on this forum owned by *********) - you prove my point every time you do and give plenty of evidence for the Turnitin staff to investigate.

I am sure you are not worried at all... :):);) No, not worried at all...

You really are a pathetic creature - I almost pity you.

OxbridgeResearchers

I really have got you rattled, haven't I? I am not the one who is at all worried - your should be however, when Turnitin and your 'university' find out what you have been doing. Your problem.

'Do the math' is NOT British English you illiterate fool! Nor is 'buy me a pack now'. British English would say 'maths' and 'buy a pack now'. 'Buy me a pack now' would be a request, usually followed by 'please' in British culture (not yours of course). Trust me - I am far more educated than you are your type could ever hope to be.

Your posting of irrelevant links to others' opinions on this site means nothing and never has. Can you not see your dunce that this is not an objective site at all and any fool can post any opinion here - you constantly try and accuse other sites of being somehow dishonest and scammers (I shall not mention them - but they are your competition, non?). Everyone here - except the morons - knows to take what is said here with a very large pinch of salt.

But then you are guilty of deceit and dishonesty - you call your company OxbridgeResearchers despite having no writers with Oxbridge qualifications - that may be within the letter of the law but not within the spirit of the law and is a deliberate attempt to deceive and mislead customers and make them confuse you silly little company with your big competition; and then you use your poster name here to advertise you site - rather desperately, one feels. This is breaking the rules of this site but then EssayScam is run by an essay site too. A truly confident company does not need to lie about their competition.

I care not one jot what you say or what you think of me or anyone else - you have delusions of grandeur and are really full of it! - and will certainly not be doing anything you request. You have ignored all requests to state how many writers you have with Oxbridgedegrees, or state where you have instructor access to Turnitin. Fine. Now that organisation can investigate you and cause you reall problems. Good luck - you'll need it.

And, by the way dumbo, I did not state anything you claim I stated - that was Asif, whose honest posts were removed dispute your vile, abusive and possibly libellous posts remaining.

And learn how to speak British English please - you really are making a first class fool of yourself here! 'Do the math' indeed. Ugh!

OxbridgeResearchers - you claim that you have instructor/institutional access to Turnitin and that you use that for commercial purposes. You realise that this is against their regulations. You admit your deceit and dishonesty, so why should any student trust such a deceitful dishonest essay company then?

You have stated your name and company here so Turnitin finding out which institution you are at will not be a problem. But nice to know you are happy to be so open about your deceit - I am sure your 'institution' (a mental home perhaps?) will be delighted to hear about how your company encourged plagiarism and how you market it to your students; and Turnitin will be delighted too to learn about how you break their rules.

No surprise really because your whole company is based on deceit - you have no Oxbridge qualified writers and yet call yourself OxbridgeResearchers! How dishonest!

Also, you break the rules here by advertising with your poster name, but then we all know how dishonest EssayScam site is and who owns and runs it... And we all know nthe usual abusive morons who post here too because they are so sad they have nothing else to do.

You think you are invincible for some odd reason - but then you are a very odd woman all in all. Also, please learn how to speak English, not Americanese! 'Buy me a pack now'? YUK!