hookay.. I'm glad we had this verbal conservation. ^_________^

I don't know what nationalities my bosses are and frankly, I don't care. Your assumptions of 'plummeting' sales are grossly unfounded (and yes, thank you for admitting that sales at the moment are quite high considering the down season). You're sorely out of topic. Go diss in your own thread. :p

right! ^___^ See? Now you're coming up with what are commonly known as:

EXCUSES

I won't engage you further since the pleasure of kicking you when you're already way down is not commensurate to earning my keep. ^__^

... maybe later. :p

Is this hackfor real? I'd charitably explain everything to you as if you were in 3rd grade (you're not, right?) but I got orders to do. ^_^ Somebody, PLEASE explain it in a language WritersBeware understands... plain english doesn't seem to be getting through. >.<

Hahaha.. aren't we pissed? C'mon WritersBeware can't you just have said: "I'm only human, so sue me?" Tsk tsk tsk.. you really hate losing dontcha? Must happen a lot to you from what I can see. ^___^

Should I drive it home? Hehehe.. why not?

Ok so let's say that your statement:


Let's go back to why you did make such a statement. You were responding to essayer's statement which was a response to my statement. essayer's statement was:


As you could see, his question was directed at me. In reference to rules in standard conversational English, your response which was:


counts as a response by a third party C in answering for speaker B (me), a question posed by speaker A (essayer) to speaker B. Which means that C's response had to have something to do with B's statement, otherwise the response would be meaningless.

I do get that you are quite pissed, but it really could have been a simple honest mistake. Your extreme reaction only highlighted your inability to accept mistakes as well as your tendencies to commit ad hominem wildly once you'd been embarrassed. How sad....

^_____^

Does this count as statistical evidence to you?


You really should take a reading comprehension class. :(

err.. coincidentally, check out my latest post regarding esl writers (oh but wait, you already did).


I think they were last time I checked. ^_^


Let's see...


and then...


nuff said? Do you have statistical evidence on these claims?

Woohoo... I love it when a worm squiggles. ^__^ Let's lay out the facts then...

I said:


To which essayer responded:


Reading Comprehension 101: A 3rd grader could tell you that ew_writer was referring to himself and others like him as "troublemakers". Essayer understood this which was why he responded with a question regarding who the "others" are (perhaps in an attempt to trap ew_writer into saying that he was in cahoots with people like Non de Plume etc.. which of course, he is not :p )

WritersBeware unfortunately, did not understand this. Thinking that the comment of "troublemakers" was directed to the critics of sites like ew, the hack came out saying:


Satisfied? I know I am. ^_^

Let's be reasonable, a lot of people do realize that hiring non-Native American writers is an easy possibility with any essay writing agency. Still, I truly am interested to find out whether or not customers at large really put higher premium on the "guarantee" of having Native American writers work for them over the actual quality of work delivered.

The operator IS horrendous >.< but at least he was honest. :P If we read through the entire post I only see a seemingly (and exceedingly) honest person trying to get a customer and a racist pri(k pretending to be a customer. :p

@WritersBeware

Now there's a happy display of comprehension skills. ^________^ *You reed Englash boi? You reed Englash?!? hahaha..*

@essayer
Well apparently, me and the other folks who took the time to defend the company that helps us make ends meet. ^___^

@essayer
Yes, And I have noticed how quiet the forum is when there aren't any of us trouble makers to shake things up. ^___^

@musa

Very understandable concerns. I got pissed during the mid-june hold up also (although I got paid on the dot during June 1-3 thing which was the beginning of the delays). The delays are gone now, until the next peak season I guess. It's great to see an actual writer actually posting here (which was why I took the time to reply). And yes, it is a constant struggle watching out for unwarranted penalities (although most of then do get resolved well). I certainly am not gonna try to convince you to go back to ew. Like one of the hacks (who is still trying to pass as a writer lolz) said, it IS the dead of summer. >.< I'd like to have as little competition as possible on the limited number of good orders that do come in. ^__^ good luck on your next writing job. Don't ever let the folks here get you down.

@WritersBeware

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

I'm sorry, I just couldn't stop laughing. I figured that I didn't wanna go through the trouble of applying to Student Network Resources to verify your information so I took the easy way in. I asked them how much they'd charge me for a 5 page book report on Beggars & Choosers (that's an abortion/welfare book for all those who don't know). Guess what? I just recieved an email from them saying that the 5 pager would cost me $55. :D

Now let's see.... you said that their minimum compensation to writers per page was $12/page.. right? Hmmm.... so.... 5 pages... times $12/page.. is like.. hmm... oh.. I don't know.. 60 bucks? So they're gonna charge me $55 and pay their writer $60?

WritersBeware, you're a liar. ^_^

@ps2

Tsk tsk.. I'm really.. really.. REALLY.. sorry for you. You're one of those sob cases that really get to people during noontime soap, the pathetic imbecile who just won't back down despite all the humiliation. Someone like Viserys from "A Game of Thrones". >.< I really sympathize. Poor.. poor... loser. :'(

@essayer
I can't believe that you'd attribute sabakhalid (did i spell it right?), and workfromhomemom's getting paid as because oftheir posting here. If you could remember, sabakhalid as happy about getting paid, and he moved on to write more orders and "almost" complain some more a few pay periods later because ofdelays again (delays that I was also having). But he got paid sooner than I did and he was overjoyed. Haven't heard from workfromhomemom for a while but as far as I know, she got paid too and it wasn't becuase of her posting here, it was simply because it was time for her to get paid.


This is just me, but I think they decide to keep the writers who don't mess up. :) I don't know how long I'll be able to stay in their employ, but at this point, the ride is already well worth it. :D

Toodles chaps. :) hope you don't burst an artery on your continued futile efforts at trying to discredit the best term paper mill in the industry. :D

ESSAYWRITERS.NET ROCKS!!!! ^______________^

Right.... People reading this are supposed to trust it.. why? ^_^ At least I got ps2's word to back me up on the 100+ orders a day. (and he's supposed to be on your side >.<) Like I said, it's the internet. I could say that I hackwriters.net pays $20/page or even $100/page. The question is, what does it matter?

@essayer

Errr... I'm sorry but the x "variable" is just plain silly. Last payment period (which was when I decided to write here), payments were also delayed because of massive orders processed during the end of the school year. My payments were delayed for almost two weeks and I brooded over that severely. What was worse was that I keep reading stuff here that says how unlikely it is that I'd get paid. I've asked support about it over and over again but all they had for me was that they were doing what they can (ofcourse, that didn't help). As a result, I declined working on orders for almost half a month. And then suddenly, 3 days before the next payment period, there it was, my pay for the period and my pay for the next payment period as well. No, I didn't attribute that fact to the company getting scared by threats of people who post online, I don't think that that does squat. What I think was that they were just able to find a way to do it, in order to keep the writers they want to keep satisfied with the system.

@ essayer
That's it? You posted here? That's the x "variable"? o.O Well now that was a let down. I was thinking it was something more like "I have an uncle who works for the CIA or I have connections with Russia (hope you guys know the issue) or even just I threatened to go to Ukraine and fart on them". Sheeesh... I don't mean to be obnoxious (and I don't think that I am being so), but I'm just honestly surprised and disappointed. >.< Has it ever occured to you that there might have been several people making the same complaints as you were and the company just acted out of necessity of wanting to keep its writers?

My adding up two points is simply saying that there is nothing that you could say that could even remotely alter how essaywiters.net is doing at the moment. And.. yeah, I was right (sadly, more than I had thought I'd be).

@ps2
I know. It's my first summer working for essaywriters.net and the summer pay really pales in comparison with my first payment periods. But then, that is to be expected, and still, I get by. It's far better than any of the competition and I'm sure you know that too, right? :p And no, the $8++/page orders aren't impossible to do. I just finished a $10/page 4-pager now. If you were looking at the available orders list then you must certainly have noticed it. ^_^

@being a crony
Tsk tsk tsk... (-_-);;;

@ps2

One more thing, I had a 5th grade classmate who did the "I'm gonna find someone to kill you, it won't be easy but I will" rants all the time. He also clenched his teeth tight and yelled "KILL! KILL! KILL!" whenever he was bullied. I sympathize with your condition... really...

@essayer
Like I said, I'm just a writer. I'm a bit curious about the x factor myself though. ^_^ I really don't believe that any amount of talk about x factors is gonna erase the fact the essaywriters.net continues to provide at least a hundred orders a day despite of summer break. :p Do tell. :)

@writersbeware
Why diss academia-research? Because they're so dissable. ^_^ You seem to enjoy pounding on essay mills, why can't others enjoy the sport? At least I'm doing my bashing objectively. ^__^ It's really sad how academia-research can't even afford live chat... and the # of orders... eeyuch...

@ps2
That's assuming that essaywriters.net is owened by a company in Ukraine. You're confusing me again. What other $640? Here's the point that I'd like to make for you: essaywriters.net paid you not once, but more than once through both bankwire and paypal right? That much we've established. Now you claim that they scammed you by not sending the succeeding payments through bankwire (after claiming that they did) and charging you for revisions, late subissions, and plagiarism. Here's the thing, none of those claims are verifiable in as far as evidence that can be posted online is concerned (no, typing your supposed earnings report doesn't count as verifiable evidence). So you're right, the topic is getting boring.

By the way, my family owns a diamond mining site in Ukraine. That's why I work as a freelance writer to muster enough money for a marriage and subsequent kids. (Yes, I'm lying about the diamond mine. See how easy it is?)

@Ps2

I'm confused. I thought you said that:


Then you did recieve this, right? As in, you were able to see the money in your bank account and spend it, right?

Then you say:


So I asked, how much money was lost through bankwire. But then you answered:


The confusion aside, so from what I gather you're saying that $650 that they sent you through bankwire never got to your account? Is this the case? Was this the same $650 where the $640 refund came from or was that a different thing, making the total $1290? Plus the $350 making it $1640 which is what you claim they owe you. Where did the plagiarism count come from? Was it from the dissertation? I'm not saying that you did plagiarize, I'm just asking where the penalty came from.

@bringing down essaywriters.net

I do wonder what this other site you are talking about is. ^_^ As of the moment, essaywriters.net continues to live up to its promise of at least a hundred available orders a day, and it's still summer break. ^_^ Eat your heart out Academia-Research ^____________^


Ok. Do you honestly believe that it was indeed your protests that finally got them to pay you? Or could it have been possible that the accountant really was on holiday? I'm just asking because I had problems with my payment details too. There was a discrepancy between their procedure and my bank's procedure with wire-transfers and I had to talk to my bank several times before we figured out what essaywriters.net meant by a missing requirement.

I see. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the company did have some problems with their payment system around that time, did they not?

Yes I know the second of those threads. Won't click em anymore coz I'm too lazy. Still, weren't you paid in full before you began posting?

@Ps2

Ok, so they paid you in bankwire and it did reach you. They paid you in paypal and that reached you too. You say they owe you $1500. How much of this was supposedly lost in bankwire and how much of it was withheld because of the alleged plagiarism?

Did you have to do this essayer?


What standards of morality are you referring to? Like I said, as far as the All-American issue is concerned, I really don't care. Look at it this way. You can at least vouch that essaywriters.net has been in the business for the last 3 years right? If they really mill out low quality papers on the average, how come they're still in business, especially given the amount of hungry and desperate competition that they have? I understand your point on the possibility that "This constitutes blatant fraud, false advertising, and misrepresentation. " but let's face facts here, who cares? Whenever some jock gets an A on a paper that he ordered from essaywriters.net, do you think that he'd demand a refund if he found out that the paper he ordered was written by someone from Burundi?

If all of essaywriters.net's writers were crap, I don't think that anyone would need to spread any bad publicity about them for them to topple over. That would happen naturally when a business does not deliver quality goods.

@ps2

So just how much did you recieve? In bankwire and paypal separately? And how much got lost through bankwire?

@ the All American Issue

Can you name a company that is All-American? C'mon folks that's an irrelevant point of contension where writers' rights and quality of work are concerned. You poiint out that essaywriters.net is lying to customers about the nationalities of its customers but at the same time you say that these ESL writers should stop writing for essaywriters.net. You're addressing two different points of interests there and making it sound like one supports the other.

The issues are these: 1.) Is essaywriters.net paying its writers fairly? That is, are writers who do teir fair share and do not cheat getting paid in full? and 2.) What is the level of quality of the works that essaywriters.net comes up with?

Like I said, I don't know if people from Ukraine are running the business. If they are, does that prove that essaywriters.net is any less than what it is? Furthermore, do you think that sensible people would believe that ALL the writers of a company that hires writers online are natives of any country? Common sense would tell you that you can spend all day trying to prove that essaywriters.net is from Ukraine and that it does hire ESL writers, but at the end of the day that doesn't really prove anything.

@Ps2

Waitaminit. Are you saying that you did get your first payment through bankwire? Didn't you say in that other thread that after the first payment, you shifted to the paypal payment scheme? Did they not pay you there?

@essayer's point

I am saying that unlike other inferior companies in the business like Academia-Research, essaywriters.net does not trick writers into submitting samples of their work and original essays for free before they get accepted. essaywriters.net is merit based. If you get in and you're a hack, chances are you'd be out before the first payment period with all the strict rules that you'd have probably broken by the end of the period.

Let's be realistic here. It's an ONLINE recruitment system. Do you think that people can't make themselves look good in a resume? I mean, I was honest when I typed my GPA in the box included in the resume form but can we say the same for everyone? It's heck of a lot easy to make yourself look good in paper. The hard part is taking orders and proving how good you are.

@ Ps2

I'm glad that you've toned it down. As for your advices I only have these to say 1.) because of conflicting interests that I have regarding your first advice, I've decided not to comment. 2.) As for your second advice, I can attest that the company does pay through wire transfer. However I must say that the wiretransfer method is the most complicated. I mean, first you gotta make at least $50 to get ur money at the end of the pay period. Next, you've gotta make sure that you've set your payment option to the right amount. If you have it set to 400(no fee), then you obviously wont get anything unless your payments reach $400. And then there's the matter of giving out all the necessary details about your bank. You've got to be real accurate because one mistake could risk routing your money to some other account. I've read your complaint regarding this and you were saying something about asking Support to simply retract the payment from the account they supposedly mistakenly sent your money to. This is very improbable because bank wire can only be recalled under very strict cicumstances. Yes, one of those circumstances is when it is sent to the wrong account but different countries and different banks have different policies with regards to this, and a bank's first priority is always that of its clients' welfare.

If that was the case, then I sympathize with what happened, but let me just say that you simply can't blame essaywriters.net for that. It's not their fault.

@ essayer

Thank you for your sensibility. I think Ps2 must've done something really bad for him not to be paid. Based on how he's been writing in this forum, I think I'm not the only one who could say that he isn't a competent writer. Who knows just how much he is leading us on regarding the true nature of his story. As for the rest who haven't gotten paid, I think the company also needs to look out for its own interests. I for one am just grateful that they did pay me. Now I can work on orders for a month before stopiing to wait for them to pay confident because whatever I make in that month is less than what they've already paid me.

@ the ukraine issue

Like I said, I don't know who runs essaywriters.net. Neither do I care. It's not an argument that seeks to prove whether essaywriters.net is or isn't a Ukranian company. As for lying to the American public, I'm not American either so again, that could all go to piss.

What the @$&* has anyone got against Ukraine? I don't know who owns the company I'm working for but I sure as heck don't care. They pay me and they pay the rest of the people who do good work for them. In the gray area of termpaper mills, that's really all that matters. Does that answer the monkey's questions? ^_^

O.o? What happened to my posts? >.<

Arguments:

1.) essaywriters.net still has the biggest market share of customers due to its quality service and unmatched support system. Academia-research can't even afford LiveChat for goodness sake. :D This is why a lot of hacks from other writing companies like academia-research desperately try to discredit essaywriters.net in futile hopes of swaying customers.

2.) essaywriters.net pays. Even the posts on this site attest to that and I'm not just talking about "full blown" supporters of the site. Many people who have had problems with their orders like workathomemom and sakeleid and essayer did get paid after some delay. I've experienced such delays myself. Delays suck but that doesn't take away the fact that these people and myself were paid in full.

3.) people who have posted arguments against essaywriters.net in as far as this site is concerned have yet to present any tangible proof that their demands are both justified and real. simply typing your supposed unpaid orders doesn't cut it. Simply claiming that they cheated you out of a bankwire that never came won't cut it.

It's easy to see why a lot of people do not like essaywriters.net. The lot of these people are hacks who thought they could get away with writing plagiarized or highly unsatisfactory work for the company just to earn a buck. A few others are individuals who have a genuine moral concern against the advent of term paper mills. The rest are sorry *** competitors who just can't keep up with the best in the business.

Yes, I'm saving this post in case it gets deleted again so that I could post it again. No, I will not reply to any more of the senseless banter that can be expected from the losers who still can't believe that they do not have what it takes to write.

^_^