"dear," I absolutely hate this type of essay order

I'm done here. I am not going to reply to this thread any more barring you doing so. I invite you, once again, to do the same. We both have offered each other to back off and I am doing so.

I find it quite interesting how you seem to be obsessed with the mental condition.


This coming from the nutjob who edits the username out of every quote . . .

I repeat: I am not posting to this thread anymore barring replies from WritersBeware.


To reiterate:


Also, how is that narcissistic? Isn't that the OPPOSITE of it? It's certainly orthogonal to narcissism...

It's incredibly narcissistic to think that you can come here and unilaterally change the quoting system and/or impose your practices on long-time, existing members. Sorry, that's not quoting works here. YOU don't get to decide how the system "should" work. Who in the hell are you to dictate that? There are over 30,000 posts in this forum, not one of which employs YOUR quoting method.

Except I didn't ask anyone else to change theirs. You brought it up, I explained what *I* was doing. I never impugned doing things differently. Were you of a helpful disposition, you might say, "Are you aware that the quoting system works thusly? It's a matter of etiquette here..." And I would work on adopting that as a habit.

To reiterate: The moment that there are no more posts from you here, I do not reply here, nor in any other way or thread, to you.

I truly don't understand what you are driving at here. You will stop posting when the forum's longest-standing member stops posting? Do you know how many companies she has exposed and, in the process, how many students and writers she's helped?

I am sorry but I really don't understand the nature of your argument with WB. Taking her on is an exercise in futility as she'll run rings around you. If you assume that engaging with her would endear you to other posters, you are wrong. It simply makes us question why you would attack the one person who has done more to fight fraud in this industry than any other has. It makes us question whether you have something to hide.

This is an honest question ... why are you acting like this? You certainly come across as intelligent enough to know better.

No. I had acknowledged her wonderful work. I do not want her to stop posting to this forum or even to this thread.

I'm saying I'm not going to argue with her anymore. I will reply to other people, on other threads. I'll stay in my corner, unilaterally, barring her saying something about me. She has suggested, to her credit, the same thing. Either I have a way of speaking that makes her angry or she is very sensitive: Either way, I am going to do what I can to avoid provoking WB. I think that is fair for everyone.

I had made the agreement clearer near the top of this page.

WRT: I'm not trying to endear myself to anyone. I am just using this forum as a way to protect me and my sub-contractors, and help people who are even newer to the field than I am with the best information I have. Nor has she "run rings" around me: I have responded to every one of her arguments with no difficulty. Every one of the arguments I disagree with, which, in general, I don't, as she's usually spot-on about the industry.

The disagreement came about when I didn't agree with something she said about Ebonics. I provided my disagreement, and explained why. It escalated for reasons I still do not understand, and I am trying to make sure it de-escalates now. But I'm not going to be treated apishly. I don't think that's an inappropriate stand. I will reply to attacks on my character but will not initiate any more comments, no matter how respectful I think they are.

She has not replied to this thread thus far, so I am only replying to you at the moment.

I hope that makes the issue clearer.

I have nothing to hide. I run a business I am proud of. I want her to continue exposing frauds, and will do what I can to help with that wonderful exercise. But I hope that it's clear that doing good work doesn't make bad work acceptable. Going after me over an honest disagreement over language would be deeply inappropriate, wouldn't it? I am making sure that doesn't happen, so that no honest person providing good work is harmed.

Thanks for the clarification but, pls pls pls, keep the name in the quotes :( Helps us identify who you are responding to.

No problem. I see now that the way you add the quote when you're doing it manually, like I prefer, is to say "=[X person in question]". Very cool. Some forums also add dates and times of the quoted text. I think that's definitely the best way of being honest.

Yes ... date and time would be good :)

Students use the page count thing in order to get a lower cost for their order. These companies charge so much for each specific type of paper order that students play the system by asking the writer to complete one thing and then, when the writer is assigned, they switch the instructions, hoping to get billed at the lower rate per page. Which normally works as the writer will be told by the company that an adjustment of so and so can be made upon approval of the client, who then approves it, shortchanging the writer in the process. It is a new type of student bait and switch and it only happens to the new writers who are still experiencing the growing pains of being a company affiliated writer. My friends went through this regularly when they were just starting out. I was spared such problems since I never worked with an affiliate company in all my professional life. That's why I could easily tell the student the find another writer rather than haggling for the content and final price. I spot the problem and simply refuse to get involved.

If the requested page count is unrealistic (or totally impossible) for the corresponding specs, I simply explain that and tell the customer how many pages correspond to those specs more realistically.

I am guessing that the students who place these types of orders are more than likely the ones who rarely attend classes. They simply ask their classmates what the homework is, what the requirements are, and then, paying half attention to what the paper is really about, they place their order with the company. Hence the unrealistic page requirement when compared to the source material requirement. I caught a few students in that situation a few times. I simply called them on it and told them to pay attention the next time the assignment is given. That was when they admitted to not even being present in the class when the instructions were given. Jeez! What are they doing during class hours? Binging Netflix?

Often came across students who would ask for a heavy number of sources, then ask only for a few pages to be written for the essay itself. When I explain that it is not realistically possible to provide information from that many resources on a paper of only a few pages, they often times add the correct number of pages to the order. However, there are those who expect to scam the system by insisting that the number of sources be used for the limited number of pages. In such cases, I would often refuse to work on the paper, return the money, and wish them luck finding a writer who can deliver what they need. No writer should be forced to write a paper that they know cannot be accomplished and will only keep coming back for repeated revisions and edits.