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Educated Essayists at yahoo groups


somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 05, 2010 | #1
Go to yahoo groups and search Educated Essayists (no space between)...hopefully freelance essay writers can use it to openly discuss which sites truly pay for work. That's allowed here technically by the rules of the site, and the mods don't seem to mind, but one particular poster has ruined this site and won't let anyone have a conversation without him/her. Sure we can ignore this person but why put up with the distraction?
WritersBeware  
Jun 05, 2010 | #2
SPAM

FU, dooshbag. You've been here for 10 minutes.

Like me or not, I put butts in the seats. Consumers come here to read my posts and save themselves from being defrauded. Fraudsters come here to attack me because they can't stand the fact that I prevent people from falling victim. Others, like you, come here to try to challenge me to some sort of debate on the merits; when that inevitably fails, they resort to attacks, insults, and name-calling. EPIC FAIL.

You're a clueless nobody with zero knowledge of the industry. Get lost. Go enjoy your Yahoo group. While you're there, say hello to 2001 for me.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 05, 2010 | #3
Glad to see you don't "resort to attacks, insults, and name-calling" like we do.

By the way, this isn't advertising: the yahoo group isn't about making money, it's just a complimentary site to ones like this one, a place to spread the discussion. I plan to also direct people from that site to this one, once some people join. If the mods consider this advertising, I understand and won't complain if they take it down.
WritersBeware  
Jun 05, 2010 | #4
Glad to see you don't "resort to attacks, insults, and name-calling" like we do.

Oh, I retaliate just fine, thanks.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 05, 2010 | #5
Yeah it's cool how you criticize people for something while doing it yourself. Really cool.
WritersBeware  
Jun 05, 2010 | #6
You start s-i* with me, and I prove you to be incompetent and clueless. That's how it goes. (In fact, you still keep trying to instigate me in other threads, so drop the innocent act.) All you had to do was return my initial politeness, and I would have provided you with far more real help than probably anyone else could. Oh, well. Good luck.

By the way, this isn't advertising:

The mod disagrees. This thread is now in the trash.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 05, 2010 | #7
It's not in the trash, you idiot, I just came to it again through the list of posts. Yes, I am arguing with you in multiple threads, and you're arguing with me in multiple threads. I was only rude after you tried to enforce false rules. You were the one proven wrong when you finally realized you were going by old rules that are no longer in place, and then whined because the rules recently changed and the mods didn't notify you in the forum. You had to keep disrupting my attempt to ask certain questions, saying we weren't allowed to talk about such things and that the answers would be advertisements because any positive review is, according to you, a advertisement. Now you're saying that you would have answered if I hadn't been rude. But that means you would have been doing what you were telling others not to do. You may think I was rude first, but I found it rude that you posted a very long criminal record of that yuri guy in one of my threads. Sure, that info is useful but you've already posted it elsewhere, and it was unnecessary to take up so much space of my thread with it. I don't know why you don't want my questions answered, and I really don't know why you are now pretending as though you would have answered them.
WritersBeware  
Jun 05, 2010 | #8
You may think I was rude first, but I found it rude that you posted a very long criminal record of that yuri guy in one of my threads.

Let's get something straight, newbie: you don't own the threads.

FYI, Mr. Head-in-the-Clouds, "that Yuri guy" is the guy who would certainly have ripped you off if not for me. Are you going to work for best[]essays.com now? No, unless you're an idiot or enjoy self-torture.

You're so clueless that you don't even recognize or appreciate when you've been helped.

false rules

". . . enforce false rules"? Wrong. Try naming names and see what happens. You've already clearly communicated that your sole purpose here is to get jobs, despite the fact that there are countless other sites that focus on jobs for freelance writers.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 05, 2010 | #9
I know about the rules about the names. That's not the rule I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you tried to say something along the lines of any positive review/feedback being advertising and therefore not allowed, when in fact such feedback is one purpose of this site.

I know about the yuri guy, I read several posts before making any of my own. But the thing is, that guy is bound to post in some threads here and there. We can ignore his short post and take it with a grain of salt.
WritersBeware  
Jun 05, 2010 | #10
I know about the yuri guy, I read several posts

Yes, and they are almost certainly my posts.

When that moron attacks me out of the blue and runs away, I'm going to respond.

Are you starting to understand what it is that I have dealt with nearly every day since April of 2007? I get attacked from literally dozens of different usernames, people who hate me because I cramp their fraudulent style and expose their scams. So, yeah, I have a short fuse.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 06, 2010 | #11
I understand responding when he attacks you, but his response in my thread wasn't an attack on you. I get why you do, but like I said, I'd already seen it (and yes, like you said, that was in previous posts by you), and would rather just ignore him than have to scroll through his lengthy criminal record to see others' responses. Anyway, we each have our reasons.
WritersBeware  
Jun 06, 2010 | #12
his response in my thread wasn't an attack on you

Please don't state as fact what is clearly your incorrect assumption.

Since WritersBeware's website is on the list too and he is by far the most prolific poster here, I'd like to see his response to your question as well.

1. I don't own, recommend, or write for ANY essay sites. I have stated this fact numerous times. The moron has repeatedly failed to provide even the slightest bit of evidence to the contrary.

2. He intentionally refers to me as "he" and "his."
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 06, 2010 | #13
Technically that's not an attack, it's just saying that he'd like to see your response and why he'd like to see it. I guess it's a lie, though, so I see your point. But why not just go ahead and respond to the question and ignore him, why even acknowledge him?
WritersBeware  
Jun 06, 2010 | #14
But why not just go ahead and respond to the question and ignore him, why even acknowledge him?

Walk in my shoes for three years, try to take your own zen-like advice, and then tell me how easy it is.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 06, 2010 | #15
I think I get your point, to an extent at least. Different perspectives and all. As someone new to the site, I can offer you this, from my perspective: You seem almost too adamant at times while your opponents in debate seem much more laid back about it. There's nothing wrong with that in itself, but to a newbie it actually makes them seem more believable. I guess it's the whole Me-thinks-the-lady-doth-protest-too-much effect. This time I'm really not attacking you, just giving constructive criticism.
WritersBeware  
Jun 06, 2010 | #16
your opponents in debate seem much more laid back about it

It's easy for those cowards to dish-out false accusations and baseless claims and then slither away. There's no stress or pressure involved in those cowardly acts. In contrast, I'm held to a much higher standard. If I slip, even for a second, they pounce. So, I keep my statements as direct, to-the-point, blunt, and fact-based as possible. If some people take that as rudeness, I'm sorry. Maybe they should go to a Care Bear forum. My concern is for the thousands of people who never post in the forum but do read my evidence and save themselves significant grief.

There are only so many hours in my day. It frustrates the hell out of me when new members sign-up to ask questions that I have already answered-in great detail-numerous times. Have people never used a search box before or are they just lazy? Either way, it bothers me. I don't have the time, energy, patience, or inclination to kiss each new member's feet and explain for the 813th time why something is what it is or why I communicate the way that I do.
OP somewriter  8 | 111     Freelance Writer
Jun 07, 2010 | #17
Well, even when I think the fighting is over and am trying to be nice, you seem to take it the wrong way. I never said that you seemed rude, just that when someone is so adamant and you're not familiar with them yet, it makes them seem hard to trust. I was trying to help you in your efforts to get your point across. Being on the site so long it'd be easy to lose sight of what it looks like to new people on the site, and aren't they the ones you're trying to inform, since the other veterans of the site have already seen your warnings.

Also, if someone asks a question you don't want to answer, or have already answered, you can always let it go instead of answering again and then complaining that they made their own thread instead of relying only upon your post from 2007 that they found through the search feature. Sometimes more up to date info is available, and sometimes info is scattered throughout different threads and someone who has been on the forum for a while and is familiar with the info as a whole might be able to sum things up. They don't have to, but they can, and it's great when they do. It doesn't have to be you. It never has to be you. You never have to say anything if you don't like the question.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
May 10, 2021 | #18
That's allowed here technically by the rules of the site, and the mods don't seem to mind,

They do not mind at all. In fact, they are hoping that the slant of the forum can change from just the negative reviews and writers who always just want to protect their self - interests, to one where students can discuss companies they are satisfied with. For writers, indicating the fair employers without regard to ownership or location would be highly appreciated. The forum owners and moderators would like to help students find good services , and the writers, fair employers during this time when money is tight, employment is scarce, and students must wisely spend their money on paid academic services.
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 27, 2021 | #19
By the time Yahoo Groups was shut down in 202o, the social media platform was no better than Craigslist. Rather than putting people in touch for valid reasons, it became a haven for unsolicited emails and fake job opportunities. Exactly what fake academic writing groups like Educated Essayists were looking for and, benefitted from heavily during the existence of this early social media platform. By the time the social group finally shut down, this so-called "writers group" had caused severe harm to the students they had conned regularly either through fake academic work or, academic blackmail. I for one, and quite happy the Yahoo! Groups finally shut down. It was really unregulated at the time and showed no signs of even trying to fix the problems with the system. Specifically, the continued existence of this scam group until the system finally shut down.
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