Freelance writers are unaccountable to anyone/anything and can disappear at any time

Freelancers are completely unaccountable to anyone/anything and can disappear in the blink of an eye. Old, established businesses are bound by certain laws and have a much deeper, vested interest in keeping their customers happy.

Freelancers who have been doing this as their principal means of earning a living for a decade or more and who intend to continue doing this for the foreseeable future have very similar reasons for keeping their clients as happy as customers of the best companies. Moreover, all of the other essay-company writers I've ever gotten to know in the last decade simultaneously work as freelance writers as well; and all of them provide the same quality of work to their freelance clients that they provide for their essay companies. Obviously, an excellent company writer is much better than a bad freelance writer and an excellent freelance writer is much better than most company writers, at least in my experience as a company writer since 2003 and as a freelance writer much longer than that.

Further, while essay company customers can usually request a specific writer at some companies, I know of no company that requires any writer to take a specific order and we routinely choose to decline many requests for projects that we just don't want. At every essay company for which I've ever written, those orders just become available to any of the hundreds of other good and not-so-good company writers. In fact, in my experience, those orders all "go public" automatically exactly 3 hours after being posted, after which any writer can grab them. We often lose requests that we'd have definitely wanted to take because they went public while we were sleeping or out for a few hours. We'd lose requests for us so often that way that some of us would protectively "take" one another's requests a few minutes before they went public to reserve them. If they were very desirable projects, we'd email one another the instant we saw them posted and if we didn't get a response within minutes, we'd take their order and email them to le them know we were "holding" it until they could contact admin to move it from one account to the other. I know of no essay company that goes that far to make sure requests don't just get taken by random writers once they go public, and those of us taking the initiative to make that effort for the benefit of customers, companies, and our fellow writers are, as explained already, likely to be some of the very same "freelance writers" you'd encounter while trying to find a reliable essay provider.

Finally, all writers go on vacation, get sick, retire, and die, whether they're freelance writers or company writers (or both). Companies maintain formal customer service functions that most freelance writers don't, but fulltime freelance writers who understand the value of maintaining their current client base do respond to emails 365 days a year, and if they don't, they're not bothering to respond to emails from their essay companies any faster than to their freelance clients. Some of us maintain reciprocal relationships with other writers we know to be legitimate as backup writers in case of bona fide emergencies, as well as instructions for someone at home with respect to pending-project client lists, emails, calendars, and deadlines.

So there are some advantages and disadvantages that are unique to both choices and it is not necessarily the case that established companies are necessarily safer bets than responsible, fulltime freelance writers who have also been in business for a long time.

What about vacations; do freelancers work 24/7/365? A big advantage of working with a company is that there is customer service 24/7/365 and if one of the writers fails to deliver, the order can easily be reassigned and completed. You may have a backup, but they will never be able to meet the high standards of professional customer service and writers.

I can't speak for other any other freelance writers, but I don't take any planned vacations. If demand for my services slows down enough for me to take a "staycation," I just use that time to relax or workout or play a little more hockey. If new work comes in, that dictates the end of my extra free time that week or that month. The last time I actually went somewhere for anything like a traditional vacation for two weeks was in 2008 and I still took assignments and completed them throughout those two weeks. I just scheduled it for a time when I knew to expect a lighter demand than usual.


There are definitely two sides to that coin: As you well know, essay companies maintain hundreds of writers and the experience and ability of those writers varies greatly from the very good to the very bad. Every company has some writers who have been doing this very successfully for many years as well as new writers and wannabe writers who are trying their hands at this for the very first time and who aren't very good and end up either quitting or getting fired after butchering a few essays. Every essay company regularly fires some newer writers whose work turns out to be atrocious as well as more experienced writers who get caught plagiarizing in one form or another. I know of no company that actually assigns or re-assigns work to writers because it's always every writer's choice to accept or reject any assignment. Generally, if a company writer fails to deliver, all the company can do is repost the order for any of the other hundreds of writers to take, or they sometimes scramble to offer a bonus and ask some of their better writers to take the order and we often just decline for the same reasons we didn't take it off the assignment board originally (if we saw it).

Another potential disadvantage to using companies is that every company I've ever written for plays only a very passive role in posting orders after processing payments. They do absolutely nothing to monitor those posted orders and deadlines and if no writer takes them before their posted deadline, they just stay on the board with an expired due date. The customer, who might have paid a week ago and was thinking all along that his essays is in the works, has no idea that it's just sitting on the assignment board unassigned to anybody. The first time they even find out that their order hasn't even been started (let alone completed) is when they email the company on the due date and receive a response from Customer Service saying that they are still "trying to find a writer for the project." The honest companies will refund the payment if the customer prefers, but that doesn't help get the customer his or her essay on time. Conversely, with freelance writers, once the project is paid for, it's scheduled to be written by the writer the customer hired for the project. At worst, the writer might be too busy to agree to take on the project in the first place, but at least that way, the customer doesn't lose all that time in between paying and then only finding out after it's already overdue that it was never even assigned to a writer (and I'm using the phrase "assigned" loosely, because I've already explained that writers choose what projects they take from companies at every company I've ever written for).

I have nothing against essay companies, having written thousands of essays for them since 2003. I don't hide the fact that I'm a freelance writer (obviously) and I don't make blanket statements suggesting that there are no benefits to using an essay company or that using a freelance writer is always a better idea than using a company. My personal belief is that anybody here who makes those kinds of blanket statements and suggests that there's never any conceivable advantage to using any freelance writer is just furthering his or her own vested financial agenda as an undisclosed owner, or principal, or paid employee of an essay company. In some cases, the same people making those arguments and doing everything possible to steer customers away from us here and to companies know that some of us are good, reliable writers because they know exactly who we are and that we also write for their companies.

That's simply not true.

In 5 minutes, a scammer can create a Gmail account and offer his/her "services"--based entirely on lies and fictional credentials--at EssayChat. After ripping off x number of people, he/she can simply create a new Gmail account.

Right, but the point was that a company can have a dozen of potential writers who can (willingly) take the order and successfully complete it, whereas with a freelancer the choice is very narrow.


It may be scheduled, but it often happens that a freelancer takes more than he/she is able to complete and then starts working with a weak/cheap ESL writer. You say you work with other freelance writers, but I doubt their fees are more expensive than yours.

I agree with that 100%. But as you know as well as anybody, scammers (on a larger scale) routinely do the exact same thing with essay companies, closing up shop and opening under a different name with a fancy new customer-facing website that looks totally legit and claims to have been operating for a decade or more.

I've said many times that legitimate essay companies and legitimate freelance writers should all be united against scammers of both varieties. I think it's unfair and disingenuous to start threads with blanket negative statements (in effect) trashing all freelancers. Legit freelance writers are not the enemy of legit essay companies and vice-versa, and you know for a fact that some of us are (or have previously been) some of the very best company writers. You have previously stated (and proved) that you have admin accounts at some of the essay companies for which I've written, so you know, firsthand, the volume of good work that I've provided and how frequently customers used to request me when I was still doing a lot of essay-company work for those companies.

I have no quarrel with you but I think it's unfair and disingenuous to announce to people that [all] "freelance writers are unaccountable to anyone/anything and can disappear at any time." You'd be livid if a freelance writer started a comparable thread trashing essay companies to steer clients away from all essay companies and to freelancers. FYI, I just referred a customer to one of the companies at which you maintain admin privileges about 2 hours ago.

As far as monitoring orders posted on essay company assignment boards goes, I couldn't possibly even count the number of times that I've watched orders just sit on the assignment board for days until their due dates came and went and then still sit on the board for a few more days. This is also at the same companies where you maintain admin privileges. I also got in trouble on this forum years ago for offering to check the status of some of those posted orders for forum members who'd ordered from those companies but had no idea whether or not any writer had taken those orders.


The only writers I've ever relied upon for overflow are the other top 3 or 4 writers at the above-referenced essay companies whose work is equivalent to mine in quality.

What a crock of BS. Just because you work for a company that apparently lets its paid orders rot on the vine doesn't mean that all companies do that. Assuming that your experience with X is universal is what is known as making a blanket statement.


BS peddler.

It takes 5 minutes to create 3 @gmail accounts. It takes weeks to create a fancy and legit website. The scammers choose the easy, free, and risk-free approach.

I specifically qualified everything in my first post by referring to the essay companies for which I've written and that by saying that I know of no essay companies that do things differently. The essay companies to which I was referring are all owned by the same parent company that W2B has previously defended as the best in the business and that I used to get in trouble here for defending too aggressively against accusations that I knew couldn't possibly be true. I assume things aren't handled any better at worse companies that neither of us has ever vouched for or defended, let alone all the shady rip-off essay companies that are the real enemy of legit freelancers and legit essay companies.

I think a freelance writer is, in the first place, accountable to their professional ethics and conscience. To say that they can run away easily is probably too naive. Yes, adventurous or scamming freelance writers may do so; however, for a dedicated freelance writer, it may not be possible because their livelihood depends on this profession which puts them into a critical position, i.e. to not scam ever, maintain quality, be communicative, etc.

More importantly, a freelance writer is an entrepreneur in the first place. So, I would find it save to infer that at least most, if not all, of the essay writing companies being run today have CEOs that probably worked as freelance writers at some point in their life just like Michael Dell, William Henry, etc.

Though FLW has already built a very good case above, I would just add that being a freelance writer has its minuses, and one of these is that we cannot have a vacation that frees us from our workload.

Freelance writers are not in competition with the companies; I think both operate in their distinct niches. Both have distinctive strengths and downsides. It's the customer that has to decide which way to go. As of today, as freelance writers still operate (if I am allowed to include myself too!), I think all the companies can do is bemoan at the fact, haha.

Last, I am of the opinion that, most probably, this thread was created to instill some life in the sluggishly going forum these days. :->

Most people learn that the world exists outside of their own limited view when they are infants. FW, I'm sure, is capable of recognizing that when a pigeon flies out of the view of his lonely window, it does not cease to exist.

MeowCon-- Thanks for the comic relief, as usual. "Just like Michael Dell!" Too much.

For the record, I did not start this thread. I posted the comment in another thread, and a moderator used it to create this new thread under my username. I am generally not a fan of that type of moderator intervention because--among other, more significant complications--it often results in context being lost.

My apologies. I have no quarrel with you and was just responding to the substance of the thread and had no way of knowing you didn't start it.

Your clarification comes at the right time. It has happened to me in the past too. I think the moderators should ask a member permission before doing so because it's in a way using and probably manipulating their virtual reputation without their consent.

So the last part of my post above was rightly raised though not toward you!


I was trying to motivate other fellow freelance writers like yourself. Have you forgotten the value of dreaming big? When would you learn to respect others?

I would learn to respect others, if they would take my advice and get some English lessons. Since they obviously haven't, I won't.

Here's a free vocab lesson. Dreaming big is great, unless you're living in a dream. At that point, it's not a dream anymore; it's a delusion.

Thanks for the lesson but, unfortunately, I do not need it.

Okay, you can sure disrespect me because my English does not sound American to you. However, you're wrong in saying that you disrespect me because of my English alone.

The evidence is just right above: You openly pick fights with other native writers. There are too many to quote. The point is that you're one egotistical, arrogant, and most of all, misbehaving individual who is never ready to admit his fault. I won't respond to your post any further for the same reason: I do not have time to waste.

Go get a job with a legit company, and then come back and post in this thread when you have some actual knowledge. Go ahead. Pass their English exam. Come back and tell us about it. Take English lessons if necessary.

Till then, keep your lame, ignorant delusions to yourself.

Mods: If you are making new thread titles w/o posters' permission just to stir the pot, well done. Personally, I don't mind when I see my posts become new threads.

Haha, looks like I hit you right in the place: Where your hollow ego sits. You're an online bully in the right sense. You never go against those who kick your sorry behind; you've cleverly become party with those you were against at some point. The saddest thing is you've lost all of your allies here.

Now, all you want, just like any other bullies in real life, is find a weaker person you can bully on to satisfy your sadistic obsession while saving your behind from those who can kick you. That's why you bemoan in vain to pick fights with anyone and mostly the polite person, FLW.

You have ALWAYS pointed out my English being of low standards by using very derogatory terms always. This simply shows you have not even the slightest feelings about others' self-respect.

Though my English may have certain deviations from standard American dialect, the fact is that not only FLW but even WB and Major have come to terms with it. It is manifest that they've put me in some position and have accepted me the way I am. If someone still finds it a matter of being amused, it's you because you need someone to bully on always.

I am 100% sure you were bullied some real bad in your childhood. You're such a disgrace to yourself. I have LONG ago stopped dirtying my hands with you because you're without feelings.

You've lost all your energies in trying to belittle others.

MODs, I would appreciate if you could notice his incessant bullying pointed out to me most of the times I post and randomly at others. I hope you understand that bullying members can result in loss of traffic.

Right; I just wonder how many goats died while you banged out the above masterpiece. Major's English isn't much better than yours, which is the same kind of excruciatingly awkward, over-careful English one sees among people who study, but don't speak, the language.

The only people who bullied me during my childhood got weapons pulled on them. It's interesting that you'd think that, though. Whatever your issues are, take some English lessons. People will take you much more seriously then; until then, you're just going to be the forum clown.

Btw, when you are not being openly mocked here, you are being completely ignored. Good luck looking elsewhere for the acceptance you so obviously crave, though, because let me clue you in: no one likes an ignorant, sycophantic, delusional crybaby.

In response to OP, as a naive (1st time) client, how can you tell what an "older established business" looks like? What is to differentiate it from the rabble? Even as an operator who has been around for over a decade, I instinctively view all essay websites with deep suspicion--including the ones that look legit or have some legit-appearing distinguishing features.

I posted my response in a new thread.

Why are you so ever jealous of freelance writers? Who told you that the companies that you represent have inalienable rights to be the only source of papers for students? Hang yourself but many students prefer freelance writers because they can have direct, one-to-one relationships with their writers.

So, where do freelance writers 'disappear' to?


Yes, even Enron was bound by 'certain laws' and had 'much deeper, vested interest' in keeping its customers 'happy'.
Really, you painstakingly struggle to destroy freelance writers but students aren't going to buy your selfish bile.
So, in another thread you're trying to fool students into believing that 'old' companies are trustworthy, right?. So, because Google is relatively new compared to MS, we can, if we were to follow your demented logic, call it fraudulent, OK?

Really, you're a deluded slimeball. And frankly, you've outgrown your usefulness. You're nothing more than a dinosaur now.
For ****** sake, get something else to do with your pathetic life. Go learn something 'bout 'moving on'

Yet again, more senseless propaganda from the stalker . . . .

Independent writers are more duty bound to produce the perfect paper for students. They are also far more accountable to the students due to the direct relationship they have to create during the order process. The independent writers also tend to not disappear at any time because they own their business and do not have the financial capacity to just keep changing business information or create umbrella sites that can help them hide from their professional responsibilities. Independent writers are professional and work hard for the money they earn, which is less than I can say for these so-called academic writing companies, that do not believe in a Code of Ethics and Standards as independent writers do.

Agreed.

There may have been a time when freelance writers were trustworthy people who could compete with the academic writing companies in terms of honest. All of that has changed. There is no real reason why students should trust an independent writer more than a writing company. They can both be honest, they can both be dishonest. For the freelancers, it is all about personal integrity, honesty, and a willing desire to help a person. Not all of them are like that anymore. Some are out to con students, some are out to blackmail. It all depends upon what their actual desire is. They can be just as unaccountable as a writing company if they choose to be. Use guarded trust when dealing with writers directly. I am not saying they are all dishonest, just that you have to protect yourself from potential future blackmail.