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Can I make 320 GBP per day as a freelance writer?


Taimur456  1 | 4   Freelance Writer
Aug 30, 2013 | #1
Is there any freelancing website that can offer 320 GBP per day?
rozosu  - | 5   Freelance Writer
Aug 30, 2013 | #2
Freelancer Making MoneyI might be the wrong person to pipe in here, but here goes. I'm a freelancer who almost exclusively finds clients myself. I do work with one small, independently owned company who sends me on average 10-15 clients on a busier month, but these clients don't tend to make a huge impact on my income. So, I'm not going to say I am the person to ask about the larger, more established companies. But let's break down the math. My regular rate is about $30/pg to my direct clients (or about £18).

So to get to £320/day, that is about 17 pages. Have I done it before? Sure. Is it something I can likely keep up over the long term? I won't speak for other writers, but as someone who has written freelance for 8-ish years and committed myself to it full-time for almost 2, the chances of my scaring up enough clients to give me 15-20 pages per day is unlikely except for the two or three very busy times of year. For the more established writers like FLW or PV, the case may be different, but if you are just starting out, be prepared to build your reputation and get some regular clients before you start rolling in page requests.

Now, when working for a company, they find the clients, and the pickings are (presumably) easier. But you also take a cut on price. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in my experience, you are lucky to make $15-$20 (£9-£12) per page, as the company, understandably, needs to take its cut. So now you are looking at, minimum, 27 pages of writing per day. To find, and to write. If you think this seems reasonable to you, go for it, and best of luck to you. But if a company is guaranteeing you this kind of cash, I'd take a cold hard look at who they are and the feasibility of their promises. Guarantees in this game often turn out to be nothing but a big, honkin' red flag.
OP Taimur456  1 | 4   Freelance Writer
Aug 30, 2013 | #3
Thanks for your reply. For your information, I am a financial adviser at KPMG Pakistan however I also have substantial experience as an academic writer. My areas of expertise include accounting & finance, auditing & cost and management accounting. My special achievement on providing excellent and point scoring finance case study solutions to Harvard, Ivey and Richard Business Schools.

Recently, I have lodged an application at academicminds.co.uk. The next day I received an email to submit credentials along with two of my samples which I did. Later, they have sent me a test assignment without stipulating the assessment criteria. However, when I have sent them my test they ended up saying that my test does not meet their minimum standards as to quality of the content therein. I asked about the feedback for my own assessment to examine the weak areas. They allowed me one more chance by doing another test. What would you advise? Should I submit the test again? The only motive behind this is high rate.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Aug 31, 2013 | #4
For the more established writers like FLW or PV

You one of few writers I can hire. For FreelanceRewriter its easy to get 15-20 pages a day coz they rewrite things only. Those butchers can do 50 page a day if you pay them, but that is without any serius research. Good writer cannot do more then 10-15 MAX per day if he don't cheat and plagiarize.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Aug 31, 2013 | #5
In my case, I can write 10 pages in a sitting pretty easily or 15-20 pages in a few sittings in one day, but I could not write 15-20 pages day after day, at least not comfortably. Once you build up a base of satisfied clients, you'll get regular work from about a dozen clients for months at a time, and the rate of their graduation seems to match the rate of new clients coming in, some of whom are referrals from previous clients. By that time, you don't need to do much advertising to get as much steady work as you need.

You one of few writers I can hire.

This guy has never seen anything I've ever written besides my forum posts here and my personal website and he has no way of knowing anything about the quality of my work or research skills. All of his forum posts (including this one, obviously) demonstrate that he has no business taking anybody's hard-earned money to write anything in English, which I only point out whenever he attacks me in forum threads, totally unprovoked. His mantra about "rewriting" and "research skills" is nothing more than his lashing out in anger and apparent jealousy against a competitor who can actually write grammatically and structurally sound sentences in English. His response to (accurate) comments about the fact that he can't even compose an informal forum post in correct English is always some version of the idea that everybody who is foreign-educated must, necessarily, be a better researcher than anybody educated in the U.S. because the American education system is no good and because there's a relatively high rate of illiteracy in the U.S. Meanwhile, he's provided no evidence about his supposedly fantastic "research skills" and Mr. "Observer" won't even admit that he's a competitor who owns a foreign commercial essay company. All we really know for sure is that my clients receive work written clearly and in good English and his receive work that sounds like it was written by Boris and Natasha from Rocky & Bullwinkle.
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Aug 31, 2013 | #6
but if you are just starting out, be prepared to build your reputation and get some regular clients before you start rolling in page requests.

Technically speaking, I don't think it'd be unreasonable to scare up this amount of work through much of the busy season. Summer, I'm not sure. But for me, writing that amount at a quality I'd feel comfortable charging a good rate for would take a toll on the mind, the body and any semblance of a personal life. How long before you get wrist problems or a bulging disk at that rate? Who's remembering to pay the utilities? What are you eating other than Beanie Weenies?

Also, that number of pages as a private writer means you have more administrative tasks -- dealing with customer emails, keeping your books, etc.
karisdata  1 | 17   Freelance Writer
Sep 10, 2013 | #7
Rozosu methinks it will depend with nature of the order. There are some complex orders which require much time to brainstorm. So i think it will depend on the charging system not the amount of pages to hit the 320 GBP a day
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Sep 10, 2013 | #8
Is there any freelancing website that can offer 320 GBP per day?

Nobody can guarantee you exact amount because it's a contract job.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 10, 2013 | #9
Set aside the issue of whether you can get that much work, because my sense is that many (or most) writers wouldn't be able to write that much 5 days/week, at least not comfortably. Assume 320 BP is roughly 500 USD and that you get paid about 30 or 40 USD/pg. You're talking about writing approximately 15 pages/day. I'm probably considered a consistently high-output writer (or relatively high-output) and I do routinely write 15+ pages/day 5 or 6 days/week throughout every busy season. Even though there are certain types of 15-page assignments that I can bang out (well) in a few hours, your average 15-pg assignment takes "most" of a very long day's work or "much" of two very long days' work. To make 500 USD every day, you'd have to spend almost every hour of your waking life writing. Even assuming that this much work is consistently available and that you're already earning at the high end of the page rate for everything you write, my sense from the posts of many other writers here is that many (or most) of them aren't really all that confident about writing one 15-page assignment in any 24-hr time period, let alone doing it (well) daily. If you picture yourself doing this fulltime and want to project what you could likely earn, your first estimate should be how many pages you expect to be able to write comfortably day after day; and if you picture yourself having any semblance of a normal life (i.e. work about 8 hours, live life about 8 hours, and sleep about 8 hours x 5 days/week), it would probably be unrealistic for any new writer to estimate being able to write more than 10 good pages/day regularly and comfortably.
rozosu  - | 5   Freelance Writer
Sep 10, 2013 | #10
Precisely, FLW. Whether or not it is possible is almost besides the point. Last busy season, I would have 15-20 page days more often than not, and was left with an aching back, tendonitis, and enough scratch to make it through the slow season. But any minute not spent writing was spent hustling, taking every last-minute job I could find in order to charge premium rates, and saying yes to every one, even if that meant getting by on a couple hours sleep every night for a week. Luckily for me, I don't have to make $500 (!) per day, and am able to work at a less suicidal pace, meaning I can have dinner with the wife most nights and perhaps leave the house occasionally.

As far as I can tell, this isn't a great line of work for making a ton of money in a short period of time. It's a fantastic line of work for making a living, though. Oftentimes a very good living, particularly when you have reached the level of PV or FLW, with a solid reputation, a ton of regulars, and the ability to maintain a steady pace - something that only comes with practice. I work from home, I learn all day, I make my own hours, and I make enough to keep the wolf from the door and some savings in the bank. But if I wanted to, say, own some property free and clear in a year (or whatever else people might do clearing $10+ grand/month - secret vintage lobster parties? 24-k gold fedoras?), I'd be doing something less pleasurable.

Oh, and FLW - I don't post very often, but I lurk enough to know the score when it comes to stu4. The reason I keep bringing up you and PV as exemplars of the industry is that from what little I see on here and chat, you guys are two of a very few I would (and have!) feel confident in recommending when I'm unable to take on a job. Cripes, I'm an a**-kisser.
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Sep 12, 2013 | #11
whatever else people might do clearing $10+ grand/month

In my case, alcohol and prostitutes mostly -- say 90 percent. And if there's anything left after that, I usually just waste it.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 14, 2013 | #12
The reason I keep bringing up you and PV as exemplars of the industry is that from what little I see on here and chat.

Just checking in...

Thanks for the vote of confidence. That means a lot to me - really. I'll admit that keeping up a 20+ page/day output for the last 15 years has been tough, and that there is a high price to pay for this level of output over time. It is precisely as Freelancewriter says -- you have to treat it just like a job and work the same hours -- or even more -- to make a decent living at this job. Nevertheless, writing a 3-, 5-, 8- and 6-page paper (or a 20-pager or combinations thereof) in the course of a day is sure a lot more fun than working for the man. Even though it's more fun, it still sucks when you do it all-the-damn-time, but that's why they call it work.
jefferson  - | 1   Student
Sep 14, 2013 | #13
hey rozosu, am so much impressed of your work and for sure thats a wise idea, though i don't know how to get there, can i get your assistance please
sagewriter  - | 1   Freelance Writer
Oct 18, 2013 | #14
Hi guys. I almost feel like I've shortchanged myself for not discovering this forum earlier! I've been cursorily seeking a forum of this sort for a while without much success; funny it had to take the keyword "essay writing service scam" to lead me here! To think that I clicked on the link out of curiosity more than anything else....

Anyways, I have been working for a custom writing service company based in the UK for about three years now.
During this period, I have written hundreds of papers, and the feedback for most of these papers have been positive.

For a couple of months now, orders have been few and far between, and the company has struggled to maintain consistency, which makes things really difficult for me. To be fair, the company does treat its writers fairly, but the insufficiency and inconsistency of orders is a big problem. My capacity has been underutilised for as long as I can remember.

Essentially, I will be grateful if any of you more prolific writers (with ceaseless flow of orders and string of customers) can sign me up as a partner to handle some of your orders. I realise that dabblers and barely competent amateurs are legion in this business, which makes it difficult to trust someone you know nothing about, but I believe my quality can be very easily ascertained and trust quickly established.

I am based in Nigeria by the way (if that helps, lol). ProfessorVerb, rozosu, FLW, and the other great guys here, kindly consider this possibility and get in touch with me. I would gladly provide samples of my previous work and write any validatory test you might want to give. Reach me @yahoo.co.uk

Hope to hear from you soon!
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 20, 2013 | #15
ProfessorVerb, rozosu, FLW, and the other great guys here, kindly consider this possibility and get in touch with me

Since you addressed this to me, I'll share my experience in this area. I've tried outsourcing (it was a long time ago) and to be honest, it was more work than doing it myself. You appear to be a highly competent writer, though, and I would have accepted your post as being a native speaker if you hadn't provided a disclaimer. In fact, you write better than many native speakers I know, so I believe you are well situated to recruit new clients on your own.

As 99Essays points out, place an ad on essaychat.com and be as articulate as your post above and you will have no problems. Don't sell yourself short, either. Charge a competitive price. Clients won't think your work product is worth anything if they don't pay something for it.

A haiku just for you:

Your writing is good.
Do not worry -- it takes time.
Good luck with your plans.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jan 12, 2021 | #16
320 GBP per day

Nope. Not per page, not per project. Not per, day. Not unless you are planning on scamming your clients based on an unproven track record and lousy writing skills. I know the reason you kept this post short. You do not want to reveal your inadequacies as an academic writer. However, you felt the need to ask the question since you might be able to scam your way through it. Don't do it. Pity your clients. Find some other job you can do. One that does not require you to write, think, or speak in English.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 04, 2021 | #17
I'm guessing the OP never became a writer.
noted  10 | 2083 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jan 20, 2023 | #18
The OP could have become a writer in a different field. There are other writing fields aside from academic writing. He could have worked for a PR firm, an ad agency, a blogsite, he could have become a Vlogger, the options for a writing career are endless. Other writing careers, for the truly talented writers, are numerous. The pay? More than 320 GBP per day. Academic writing limits the income of a writer, regardless of the talent he thinks he has. A regular paycheck will still pay better. The same applies to big time non-academic writing projects. Those contract gigs can really pay the bills, turn into good investments, and prepare one for retirement. Let's not have tunnel vision about freelance writing careers now. Academic writing isn't the only one around.
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FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 22, 2023 | #19
There are other writing fields aside from academic writing. He could have worked for a PR firm, an ad agency, a

I worked briefly for this type of organization and I was miserable. Everything is supposed to be written at roughly the reading-comprehension level of an 8th-Grader and I spent much more time in "meetings" with various principals and department personnel than actually writing. When I was in charge of writing for a federal OIG, there were a lot of things I disliked about the job; but at least I knew that everything I wrote ultimately contributed to an important purpose. In my office, that meant conducting investigations and issuing reports whose purpose was to recover hundreds of millions of dollars that had been lost to waste, fraud, and abuse. Writing PR and advertising materials wasn't the least bit rewarding in that regard.

Academic writing limits the income of a writer, regardless of the talent he thinks he has. ... A regular paycheck will still pay better

Actually, what "limits the income of a writer" is choosing to write for a living, in the first place, not choosing to do academic writing instead of some other kind of writing. Nobody becomes a professional writer seeking wealth. Just do a search for the average income of writers by category. Having written for commercial PR/Advertising entities, I can tell you, from firsthand experience, that it takes much more talent and ability to write good academic projects, especially in many different areas, than it takes to do commercial writing. Any good academic writer could do the work of most PR/Advertising writers; the reverse isn't true, at all: only one of my PR/Advertising co-workers (the department head who hired me) might have been able to write academic essays for a living. Advertising and PR writing require very little intellectual ability, by comparison.

I've worked as a writer at a very traditional "respectable" job, and I was miserable. Working a regular 40 hours at an office left me with almost no free time to pursue any non-work interests. If I just went to the gym after work, I'd have to take a sleeping pill as soon as I got home, and still had a very hard time getting enough sleep. By the end of every week, I'd inevitably have accumulated enough of a sleep debt that I had to sleep half the day on Saturday, just to catch up. Most of my Sundays were spent on errands like food shopping, dry cleaning, and seeing my dad; and I had to get to bed by 10:00 PM to have any hope of minimizing my accumulation of sleep debt the following week. I'd never have been able to start playing hockey in a men's league again or being on the board of directors of my building. Today, I earn approximately the same as I'd be earning in government; but I can make my own schedule and fit my work into my life in a way that allows me to actually have a life away from work.




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