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Simple Essay Form Fields for my essay service


montes  1 | 4  
Jul 29, 2012 | #1
I want to design simple essay form. What are required fields? Are these enough for writers to do a good job?

Research FormPAGE COUNT:

REFERENCES COUNT:

CITATION STYLE:

PROJECT TITLE:

DESCRIPTION:

FILES TO UPLOAD:

DEADLINE:

PREFERRED WRITER:

EMAIL:
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jul 29, 2012 | #2
Unless the assignment actually calls for a specific number of references or citation style, there's no reason for customers to include this info.
Unless the customer is already locked in to a specific project title, let the writer make that decision within the more general topic requirements.
OP montes  1 | 4  
Jul 29, 2012 | #3
Thank you. Ok, in that case customer could select "0" if she doesn't want any references. Regarding Citation Style, the default could be "Non-applicable."

Unless the customer is already locked in to a specific project title, let the writer make that decision within the more general topic requirements.

Right, I meant to allow the customer to give a general idea about the project...

So, in general, you think the approach of "less is more" is better (ie. the less form fields to fill out, the better), correct?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jul 29, 2012 | #4
They should include everything that's required on their end and nothing that isn't.
OP montes  1 | 4  
Jul 29, 2012 | #5
Exactly. So would you add any other form field?

I'm asking because some websites have a lot of fields to fill out while others only have a few. It's confusing for an inexperienced designer like me... From usability point of view less fields are better, but how do I know if I miss some important field? Also, do you recommend that the customer should enter two email addresses (one main and second alternate) or one is enough?
Paul37  1 | 77   Freelance Writer
Jul 29, 2012 | #6
A: "Hey, can I get some free advice on how to compete against you and take your clients?"

B: "Sure."
OP montes  1 | 4  
Jul 29, 2012 | #7
There are a lot of sites providing free advice and I appreciate FreelanceWriter's useful advice. If you have nothing to add, please move on.
Paul37  1 | 77   Freelance Writer
Jul 29, 2012 | #8
If you have nothing to add, please move on.

I did have something to add, and I added it.

I'm always amused by people who post in a public forum and expect privacy or only comments in their favor.
OP montes  1 | 4  
Jul 29, 2012 | #9
I did have something to add, and I added it.

Unfortunately, it was totally unrelated to my query.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Jul 29, 2012 | #10
Are these enough for writers to do a good job?

Yes.

'Subject area' and 'Phone' field is good to add too. Dont listen to Paul37. He know nothing.
srandrews  11 | 138   Freelance Writer
Aug 04, 2012 | #11
Something about what level the paper is for might be good ... undergraduate, master's, etc. Also, whether it is to be in American English, British English, or other.
Helenrob  1 | 84   Freelance Writer
Aug 11, 2012 | #12
If a customer is paying you his hard earned money then he should get an A quality paper. I dont beleive in asking about level of paper.
srandrews  11 | 138   Freelance Writer
Aug 11, 2012 | #13
It's more of an issue that if you hit it out of the park for, say, a freshman-level ESL student, the professor is going to get might suspicious. I don't believe in putting the student in harm's way, if it can be avoided.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Mar 14, 2021 | #14
The basic information form works as is. Since this is just the first template you will be using for your business, you can use it and adjust along the way. It is only by having the form go active that you will be able to realize what information is really required, and what you do not need to bother asking the student. I went through several order template changes before I finally got it just right. So don't fret. You will need time to get the template right.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Sep 19, 2022 | #15
This type of template is only usable for determining the price per page of the order. It cannot be used, as far as I am concerned, as the order form because it just does not ask the right questions in relation to placing the order. A seasoned student user will immediately see that the writer is not one who has a proper idea as to how the order should be placed. The order form usually carries the telltale signs of whether or not a company or independent writer can be entrusted with the proposed word.

Do not rely on writers who negotiate prices via email either. These independent writers tend to ask the client to "bank" a certain amount with them, allowing the writer to charge what he believes is a fair amount for the order, after informing the client or, increase (but never decrease) the charges since the client has no idea how the order is actually being priced. Unless the writer or company uses a formal order form, it is best not to trust that the deal they are making will be trouble free.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Sep 20, 2022 | #16
@noted quote "Unless the writer or company uses a formal order form, it is best not to trust that the deal they are making will be trouble free".

These are wise words indeed and prospective students whould be wary of using any essay company or freelance writer incapable of compiling a proper order form. A quick look at respective websites will elicit those essay companies or freelance writers it is advisable to avoid.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 22, 2022 | #17
Do not rely on writers who negotiate prices via email either.

This is complete nonsense, mainly, because an order form has absolutely nothing to do with a writer's honestly, credibility, or ability. I've been doing business just fine for over 20 years without using any kind of "formal order form." Prospective clients simply send me their project proposals with all related materials, specifications, desired length, and due date. I review whatever they send me and either respond with the exact price of the project or I let them know that I can't take the project if I'm not confident about being able to do it well. If I need any additional information about it, I just ask for it.

Unless the writer or company uses a formal order form, it is best not to trust that the deal they are making will be trouble free.

Also complete nonsense. Every scam company that has ever been discussed on this forum since its inception in 2007 probably used a "formal order form." The mechanism or process by which writers and essay companies collect the information they need for projects is totally unrelated to whether or not that writer or essay company is a conscientious, highly-qualified, and honest provider or a total scam. What determines whether a provider is reliable is his honestly with his clients and the quality of the work that he actually provides, not whether or not he uses an order form or prefers to review and quote every project, individually.

These independent writers tend to ask the client to "bank" a certain amount with them, allowing the writer to charge what he believes is a fair amount for the order, ... since the client has no idea how the order is actually being priced.

Since this nonsense about "banking" money has become the latest basis of your totally false characterizations meant to disparage and defame me, allow me to address the history of this issue on these forums:

On May 30, 2022, someone identifying herself as "Ellie" posted a comment titled "General Writing Administration" on (currently) the 3rd page of Essay Chat: https://essaychat.com/3/

According to "Ellie," no fewer than 5 writers had approached her with offers to take "retainer" payments in the neighborhood of $3,000 USD/month, and all of them had refused to simply take one project order from her at a time. On July 8th, I noticed that post, and in my response, I explained that in 20 years of doing this for a living, I'd never even heard of writers demanding "retainer" fees, especially on a monthly basis and regardless of whether or not the writer actually had to do any work for the client during that month. I asked "Ellie" where she managed to find no fewer than five such writers and suggested that, in her search for a writer, she might have stumbled into a community of scammers all running the same scam; but she never responded: https://essaychat.com/2/

In my July 8th post, I explained that the idea of charging monthly "retainers" is ridiculous, because there's no reason that anybody would ever need to pay any writer in between actual assignments. I also mentioned that occasionally, some of my long-term clients prefer to pay me a lump sum in advance, from which I simply charge off their projects and indicate how much credit they have remaining with delivery of each project. Now, it appears that you're very deliberately trying to twist those words for the purpose of totally mischaracterizing what I said. For the record:

1. At least 99.5% of the thousands of clients who have used me in 20+ years simply pay for whatever project they order, one at a time.

2. I've never offered or suggested (much less "required") that any new client pay me for anything more than whatever project he or she wants to order from me. It's hard enough establishing a clientele and allaying the concerns and fears of some skittish first-time prospective clients paying for one project at a time, especially if they've already been ripped off by one of my competitors with a much flashier website complete with "formal order forms." If I were a prospective client and a writer asked me for any kind of payment for more than his first project, I'd run the other way, immediately.

3. By the time any of my long-term clients decides that it's easier to issue lump-sum payments for future projects, that client has already used me many times and knows exactly what my usual pricing is for his or her kinds of projects. Typically, these tend to be Nursing or Business students whose courses require numerous small weekly or semi-weekly projects that make it much easier to just charge them off as I write them, instead of quoting and taking separate small payments for each of them, one at a time.

4. There are no pricing surprises; my prices don't "change" based on the payment method; and (obviously) any unused remaining credit is always either entirely refunded or held and applied to future orders, totally at the client's option. No money is ever deducted from that lump sum unless it's actually for more work; that credit never expires; and if a customer tells me to hold onto any unused credit for future work, initially, but later decides to take the refund, instead, obviously, I issue a refund, immediately and with no deductions since the last project and no questions asked. Furthermore, no client of mine has ever tried this payment format and subsequently asked to go back to paying for projects one at a time, precisely because the price of my projects doesn't "change" based on the payment method; it's simply a convenient system that saves both the writer and the client time. Once the client already trusts the writer based on a perfect record of delivering high-quality projects on time (or earlier than promised), it's just more convenient for both parties.

5. Two days later, on July 11th, someone calling himself "Blake" posted a nonsensical rambling response in which he defended his practice of charging monthly retainers (supposedly for 25 years), and in incoherent ESL English, proceeded to explain both that the main purpose of these "retainers" is to guarantee unlimited revisions and that he never gets any revision requests, because his projects are always delivered perfectly. (Apparently, it didn't occur to him that if his projects never need any revisions, there'd be absolutely no need for any "retainer," in the first place, since the main purpose of his "retainer" is to guarantee unlimited revisions.)https://essaychat.com/2/

6. "Blake" also added that my comment must reflect my "jealousy" because his clients (supposedly) pay him monthly retainers while my clients are only willing to pay me a "store credit" and that this suggests that I don't deserve much "professional respect."
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Sep 23, 2022 | #18
[quote=FreelanceWriter](quote) or I let them know that I can't take the project if I'm not confident about being able to do it well.

This is yet another instance of you not being honest.You have admitted that you do take work and sub contract parts of it out so that doesn't make you the fount of all knowledge you like to think you are.

The rest of your post comprises your usual indignant ramblings in a desperate attempt to restore your tarnished reputation. I'm pleased you avoided accusing me of being Ellie and/or Blake!

The purpose of this post is to show that you are not sufficiently transparent or competent to publish a website with full costings depending on number of words, qualification, grade and delivery time. This failure prohibits you from displaying an online order form which would enable customers to know exactly what they were paying while providing equality of treatment.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 23, 2022 | #19
This is yet another instance of you not being honest.You have admitted that you do take work and sub contract parts of it out

I've not been "dishonest" about anything I've ever posted on this forum since I joined it in 2008. What I said, in this thread specifically about statistics-based orders, was:

For projects that are heavy on stats, I always let my clients know that I just pay someone who is a stats expert for that rather than struggling through it myself, and probably doing it much less well.

https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/statistics-papers-orders-writing-jobs-3626/#msg86268

As is the case with this and every other aspect of my relationship with my clients, I always disclose everything about my relative confidence with every element of every project. It's entirely up to my clients whether to order these types of projects from me after I disclose, in advance, that I need to have the stats work done by someone else. Sometimes, first-time clients decide to look for a writer who can also do the stats, which is their prerogative. My regular clients already trust me 100% and typically have no problem with this, at all. My obligation is simply to be honest about it so that they can make a fully-informed decision. If I had any intention of being "dishonest" about it, I wouldn't disclose it to my clients in advance and I wouldn't have volunteered that information publicly on this forum. Quite obviously, there's nothing remotely "dishonest" about any of that. A dishonest writer wouldn't risk losing those types of projects by disclosing that information to his clients, in the first place.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Sep 24, 2022 | #20
I always disclose everything about my relative confidence with every element of every project.

This admission should ring alarm bells for any potential clients. 'Relative confidence' is not a term I have ever seen a professional academic essay writer use.

There is no statement on your website that you may have to sub contract areas of work. You mention 'stats' on this forum but I doubt that is the only element of a project you may have to outsource. Nobody can have the expertise to write competently in each and every topic listed in your fanciful manner.

As for 'honesty' you have made claims that are obviously false, for example the ratio of UK projects you have written. You clarified the deception when even you realised that it was too far fetched to be credible.

Any transparent essay company or freelance writer worth their salt would provide an online order form.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 24, 2022 | #21
'Relative confidence' is not a term I have ever seen a professional academic essay writer use.

"Relative confidence" means, precisely, that I have a very high confidence level with projects in some academic areas and less confidence with projects in other academic areas. There are many academic areas in which I can handle almost any undergraduate-level project with very high confidence but not necessarily post-graduate-level projects, at least not with the same degree of confidence. I always disclose my "relative confidence" about every proposed project to my clients, in advance, especially, if it's anything less than high confidence.

There is no statement on your website that you may have to sub contract areas of work.

My direct communications with my prospective clients include many project-specific elements that aren't on my website. The point is that I always disclose everything relevant to every specific project to every client before taking on any project.

You mention 'stats' on this forum but I doubt that is the only element of a project you may have to outsource.

I mentioned "stats" because that thread was about statistics-based projects, and I volunteered that information because I was responding to the thread topic truthfully. There are no other elements of projects that I "outsource." The only reason statistical analyses sometimes present this issue is that some research projects whose topics, themselves, are no problem for me require SPSS data analysis. In those situations, I have exactly 3 choices: (1) Take the project without disclosing that I'll be using someone else for the SPSS; (2) Take the project only after disclosing, honestly, that I'll be using someone else for the SPSS; and (3) Decline the entire project, outright. I choose Option 2.

Nobody can have the expertise to write competently in each and every topic listed in your fanciful manner.

Just because you can't write competently in each and every topic listed on my website hardly means nobody else can.

As for 'honesty' you have made claims that are obviously false, for example the ratio of UK projects you have written. You clarified the deception when even you realised that it was too far fetched to be credible.

There was nothing remotely "deceptive" in anything that I posted in the thread to which you're referring:
https://essayscam.org/forum/wc/takes-lot-competent-writer-3261/2/

What I said in that thread, originally, was simply:

...approximately 50% of my clients are UK students, every single one of whom knows that I'm both located and educated in the US.

Then, in response to your mantra that no writer educated in the US could possibly handle UK university projects competently, I decided to take a quick look at my records to see whether I had anything that I could share to prove that I have many UK clients. The only document that I could find showed a particular month in which I had 17 US clients, 8 UK clients, and 1 Australian client, and, much more importantly, that 75% of those clients were returning customers, not first-time customers.

I chose to post that document in Post #47 of that same thread, precisely, because to any forum reader who doesn't have a hostile personal agenda to twist my words, quote them out of context, and make endless totally disingenuous arguments to disparage me because we're direct competitors, it's irrelevant whether it was exactly 50% or closer to 30% of my clientele; the relevant takeaway was simply that I have many UK clients, contrary to your posting, ad nauseam, that US-educated writers cannot possibly write UK projects competently.

Any transparent essay company or freelance writer worth their salt would provide an online order form.

By now, anybody familiar with your posting history and your obsession with disparaging me knows, without the slightest doubt, that if my website did provide an automatic online order form, you'd be screaming about how "irresponsible" and "dishonest" it is for any independent solo writer to use such a form, because it cannot distinguish between projects that I'm capable of writing well and those that I'm incapable of writing well enough to take on in good conscience. As I've explained many times, one reason I don't use an online order form is, precisely, that I need to review every prospective project, first, to respond to the inquiry and disclose my relative confidence with the project to the prospective client before taking payment for it. I work alone and I write every project that I accept, and I also have a life outside of my work; so, I could never use an automatic system that allowed customers to add new projects to my calendar without any opportunity for me to review them first, to make sure, both, that I can do them well, and that I can fit them onto my calendar.
a1writer  3 | 292   Freelance Writer
Sep 25, 2022 | #22

FWquote "it's irrelevant whether it was exactly 50% or closer to 30%". If you can't see the difference between the two figures it really is a good job you outsource stats!

FWquote "I work alone and I write every project that I accept..." The lies just keep on coming. You have admitted you use other people to write stats and I bet that you are incapable of writing competently on each subject listed of your website without resorting to outsourcing parts.

It just shows that you are not capable of writing on the majority of topics you list on your website. If you are incapable of witing at Masters/Postgraduate level why not just state it on your website. Or as long as the client is what you term an 'easy' (I would say 'gullible') client rather than a 'difficult' one you might take it on. For what it's worth if you are as competent as you claim to be it should be a fairly easy step for you to progress from undergraduate to postgraduate writing and the fact that you have a lower level of confidence is a red flag as to your overall competency.

FWquote "... to disparage me because we're direct competitors". Give it a rest. I no longer write as I have told you numerous times but I am concerned to protect unsuspecting potential clients (usually cash strapped students) from being conned. In particular I want to alert UK students to the wisdom of using a foreign freelance writer with a cavalier attitude to essay writing.

Your aversion to an online order form is because you have to filter assignment requests based on your knowledge or rather lack of it. I doubt you are even aware of the machinations of the UK higher education system let alone differentiate between the different types and grades of "degrees" without resorting to a Google search.

The stench of BS is wafting across the pond for all in the UK to smell.




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