writers.ph & essaywriters.net = Scam from Ukraine (LEGAL PROOF of Fraud)

An investigator has published the most definitive collection ever against the Ukrainian scammers and frauds from essaywriters.net who opened a new, fraudulent site in the Philippines (writers.ph):

voirdireveritas.blogspot.com

I must admit that I am quite impressed. The evidence includes months' worth of photos, screen shots, emails, proof of fake addresses, proof of corporate falsifications (US, UK, and Philippines), proof of advertising fraud, proof of press release scams, etc.

Search for more evidence posted in this forum.

thanks for the help

********* is still active (2010) and is posting on Zunia.org
(a legitimate knowledge exchange site used for sending in reports
on work done in education, health care, etc.).

I started writing for writers.ph since October 2009. I got payment regularly, but very very late. I have always been left wondering why the money paid to me was always inadequate, like I was missing some 20 dollars or more each time.

There have been several circumstances when they accused me of submitting poor-quality essays. There have been instances when the QA and Support teams accused me of typographical and grammatical errors. Nevertheless, the customers more often than not, gave me me very good survey ratings.

Despite the customers' excellent feedback for my submitted papers, negative ratings meant by customers for other writers were surprisingly placed on my account. I complained to the support team. They later removed such feedback. Then, last weekend, the company terminated me for alleged poor quality and late submission of papers. At this point, the company owes me at least ninety (90) dollars. Writers.ph promised to pay 50% of such after three months.

I believe I have been fooled by them all along.

Ummm....duh?

Also, while this company is no doubt scamming you, there are numerous grammatical and syntactical errors in your post. Your apparent indignation at such accusations is not really justified.

I beg to disagree. You spend sleepless nights putting together these projects (never mind about the quality) then out of nowhere all sorts of excuses are used to deny you payment, and you are expected to be civil about it? No way. The client is obviously not at fault and the writer is not innocent either, but the greatest responsibility should be borne by these scam companies. Suggesting taht writers take half the blame cleanses and emboldens the scammers because they are reading these posts too.

WTF?

Yes, quality issues should not be brought up if copyright ownership has passed to the company. That is what I meant.

If a writer writes poorly, he should not get paid. The easiest way to kick incompetent writers out of this industry is to not pay them. While it is true that some companies (such as essaywriters.net) engage in downright unfair fining practices, incompetence should not be tolerated. I don't see what copyright ownership has to do with this.

No, I don't. Maybe you do, and maybe Arlene does, but even when I stay up really late FULFILLING MY OBLIGATIONS in a way that earns me a living, I get some sleep.

This is like saying that an auto mechanic who stays at work late fixing a car, and who fixes that car in such a way that it still fails to run, isn't really to blame--the auto shop that hired him is. The customer still has to pay full price and has no right to complain.

This is ridiculous. If you do bad work, you deserve to be called out for it. Now, companies cheating writers out of their pay is another story, but my point was that Arlene DOES make grammatical errors, so acting all huffy when she is accused of making these errors is a highly unattractive quality demonstrating her arrogance, refusal to accept criticism, possibly laziness, **********, etc.

I agree. However, essaywriters.net shouldn't have allowed her to accept projects in the first place. In that regard, the company is at fault. (The owners of legit companies wouldn't have let her anywhere near their customers' projects!) We already know that essaywriters.net depends on these unqualified, low-paid writers to boost the company's profit margin, and then s-i*s all over them when it is convenient for the company (i.e., Yuri).

I like the way you say this.

Hey, way to stay relevant, on-topic, and helpful, Rusty! You truly are a valued member of this forum.

Don't you think you will be allowing criminals to benefit from their own wrongdoing? I totally agree; there needs to be a sort of clean up, but taht must not give the companies an exit strategy for abusing the free market economy. it is a catch 22, I suppose.

Precisely!


Bravo!

Fraudulent companies like essaywriters.net that knowingly hire unqualified, ESL writers from foreign countries specifically because such writers accept significantly less money than qualified writers in the US should not be allowed to fine and abuse such writers simply for being who they are! That's like knowingly hiring a borderline unemployable, blind man because he works on the cheap and then firing him-when it's convenient for the company to do so-because he "can't see"! Well, no s-i* he can't see! Why in the hell did you hire him to paint people's houses in the first place?

Why do these companies like to scam :[
why can't this process be EASY.

Wait a minute, so you think giving people from the Third World a chance to earn several times the minimum wage in their country, from the comforts of their own homes no less, is a wrongdoing?

Your position is this: it's ALRIGHT for incompetent writers to apply and write for term paper sites. Anyway, it's those sites that are breaking the law by falsely advertising the qualifications of its writers.

Nice try. However, while it is the companies that have sole legal responsibility when it comes to their advertising practices, writers NEVERTHELESS have a professional responsibility to provide quality products to their clients. Sure you're not legally bound to produce quality work, but I seriously find it amusing that you expect to get paid for writing trash.

Writing ability in the English language is not bound by geography. By stating that it's not the writer's fault because the companies hire people from countries outside the U.S. and U.K., you are actually claiming that it is.


Hiring a blind man to paint houses is not the same as hiring an ESL writer to write term papers. Having English only as a second language is not a handicap. There are countless competent ESL writers in the world, remember? :p That makes the odds of finding a competent ESL writer willing to write term papers for a living pretty good, unless you want to claim that a great majority of these countless competent ESL writers are morally far above choosing this line of work.


Right on.

The mechanic is "to blame," as far as his/her skills and/or performance are concerned, but the shop would be 100% responsible if the dispute were to be litigated.

Absolutely. The company should never have hired the mechanic, and should definitely fire them after such an incident, but the mechanic shouldn't get all defensive when the company takes action.

I knew that's what you meant, but I felt the need to prevent a certain somebody from spinning your position.

Exactly my point. A client filing a complaint should file a complaint against the company, and the company should be held fully responsible for hiring incompetent writers. Lawsuits should be filed and claims should be made, but who's responsible again?


Ever get tired of gettin' your a** kicked? ^_______^ LMAO!!!!

Apples and oranges, lady. We're dealing with a mechanic who did a bad job or just had a bad day, not a mechanic who's knowingly working hand-in-hand with the owner of a secret, illegal "chop shop." In that scenario, the mechanic would be an accessory and co-conspirator, as would be a writer who knowingly writes for a company that blatantly misrepresents his/her qualifications to unsuspecting, deceived clients.


Ever get tried of completely misunderstanding, misinterpreting, and spinning my statements? Guess not . . . .

SCENARIO:

An auto body shop hires an upstart, inexperienced, auto body painter for barely over minimum wage. The shop owner soon begins misrepresenting his skills to clients, lauding him as "an experienced mechanic with a 6-year graduate degree in "Jet Engine Technologies" from 'XYZ Mechanic School'." The employee is fully aware of this misrepresentation, but decides to keep working because he needs the money. Is the employee an accessory and/or co-conspirator to the shop owner's crime?

Wrong again. I was putting it entirely in the context of the discussion, wherein forumregulator was clearly putting forward the position that:


A context which you clearly understood when you responded:


Last time I checked, hiring incompetent mechanics, isn't a crime. However, advertising that you have mechanics with degrees in engineering when in fact, they only have vocational certificates is false advertising (sorry, your "chopshop" analogy is completely out of context ^__^).

If the mechanic was asked by customers if he/she had a graduate degree and the mechanic lied to them, then the mechanic is guilty of being an accessory to false advertising perpetrated by his employer. If the mechanic told the truth, then he is innocent. If the mechanic was never asked, then he did not at all participate in his employer's false advertising and so is ALSO INNOCENT. The mechanic DOES NOT aid his/her employer in committing false advertising simply by being the mechanic. Even if the mechanic was not present, the employer can still claim with equal effectiveness that his mechanics have graduate degrees in his advertisements. Thus, the mechanic CANNOT be an accessory because his action/inaction does not in any way contribute to his employer's crime. If customers demand to see and interview the shop's mechanics, then that's when the mechanic may be held liable depending on his responses to the customers.

But hey, you already got your a** kicked on this one as well. Remember your substantive issue thread? Here's a little reminder:

Substantive issues in the essay industry

ROFLMAO! YOU SUCK! ^_________^

Listen, fraud defender, NOBODY supports you or your assertions except Rusty, a proven liar and admitted criminal. Your assertions above have absolutely no basis in fact or law. I won't keep going in circles with your crooked ass. You can claim all day long that you have "won." Good for you, idiot. Have a cookie. Bask in your delusional glory. Remember the following about all of your posts:

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LOL!!!! Hey Pheelyks, care to support WB on this one?

Ohhhh... I just thought of a new angle to kick your a** at. I just realized, your whole argument that the mechanic is an accessory still depends on your asinine idea that if the employer does not complete a financial transaction, the employer is not liable to a false advertising suit. Oh sweet! This is gonna hurt like spiked combat boots shoving into that fat tush of yours so far up that it actually punctures your colon. I'd ask you to affirm that assertion, but hey.. we both know you'll be TOO CHICKIN' to do so, so I won't bother. ^______________^

I'll let you wade around in misery for 12 hours or so before putting you out of it. Gotta get back to work. You know I'll be back and you know that unlike you, I ALWAYS DELIVER on a promised a**-kicking.

"If the mechanic WERE asked . . . ." Clean it up.


You already tried once to SPIN pheelyks' position in your favor with your "Right on" comment. You failed.


WRONG, jack! I already clearly stated that the employee is FULLY AWARE of his employer's misrepresentation of his skills and experience. Customer's don't have to "interview" the employee to establish the employee's legal culpability. The crime DEPENDS on customers' trust, dips-i*. Seriously, just.

Is a street corner drug dealer criminally culpable for finalizing transactions that his kingpin employer initiated? Can the dealer use "ignorance of the law" as a defense?

prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar. look it up... seriously. open and expand your mind. you're the one who looks like a fool here.

oh... and people do care, WB. for example, I care about you looking like a fool. I want you to be a better person. maybe you should take a little time out, read up on what you're arguing about, and come back... view your snooty, Sisyphean crusade here with some clean eyes. promise?

Let me guess-proponent of Ebonics, too?

You're an excuse-making, apologist idiot.

nice try, but you're not going to get my guard down with that sweet talk.

btw, WB, did you know that people who hide behind prescriptive grammar are often covering up for a lack of intelligence? it's true! want me to prove it?

--there! it's done.

peace out.

Rusty: Shut Up

Monologue much?


Wow.. another wrong analogy. Why am I NOT surprised?

A street corner drug dealer is criminally liable for drug dealing, you nincompoop. That's a crime in itself. An ESL writer who writes for a company that falsely advertises the writer's country of origin is not breaking any law by writing term papers for that company REGARDLESS of whether or not he/she knows that the company is engaging in false advertising. How many times do I have to whack you senseless with the law? I don't even live in the states and yet I clearly run rings around you in that area. >.< How PATHETIC is that?!?

But hey, you completely ignored this part of my statement:


I guess that proves this statement:


ROFLMAO!!!!

When are you going to realize that nobody cares about you or your ignorant, irrelevant statements? When people truly need assistance, they approach me because they know that I offer actual help, information, tips, and guidance. That won't be changing any time soon. All you offer is selfish propaganda and fraud justification. Have you had that cookie yet? LMAO!


So is willingly/knowingly playing a key role in ANY criminal enterprise because it puts dirty money in one's pocket. You missed the bigger picture, moron.

YOU LOSE.

and a writer DOES NOT play a KEY ROLE in the false advertising activities of his/her employer, PERIOD. The only way your argument can fly is if you actually PROVE that a false advertising claim can't be filed if a customer never bought a product from the perpetrating company, and in a while I'm going to use your own example and whack you senseless with it. Are you ready for another beating? ^_________________^

Your ignorance and level of denial are astounding.

1. Employer misrepresents writer's qualifications.

2. Writer finds out, either before or after writing his/her first paper.

3. Writer decides to look the other way in order to keep the dirty money flowing.

4. Writer provides the critical, final leg of the misrepresentation marathon: the poorly-written, misrepresented product/paper.

5. By looking the other way and knowingly/willingly contributing to the false advertising scam that the company owner initiated, the writer is a legally culpable accessory and/or co-conspirator.

END OF STORY

Awwww... if you really thought so, you know that we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Nobody, not pheelyks, not freelancewriter, not WRT, has backed you up on that. On the other hand, how many members of this forum have backed up my arguments on your gross displays of stupidity? At least two. How many have actually tried to defend you against these arguments? NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NIL, etc.


You wish. The story doesn't end until you're gone from this forum, WritersBeware. I won't stop until your stupidity's been so exposed, your employers would have no choice but to let you go and hire someone else. Why, you might ask? Why would I want to do that to you? Is it because of the dirt that you've thrown against sites like essaywriters.net? Heck no.. you can throw all the dirt you want. I'll even help. EW is a crappy company to work for! They'll cheat their writers at every opportunity. See? Why then? Why would I spend time and effort getting you kicked out of probably the only job that you can do? Well... because you DESERVE it.


NO, the writer doesn't. The act of false advertisement is perpetrated without any participation from the writer. In the absence of the writer, the company would still have been able to perpetrate the same crime at the same level of effectiveness with no added effort. This makes it impossible for the writer to be considered an accomplice.

Hey.. it's the third time that I've called you on that "no sale, no crime" statement. You can't claim that you just don't want to repeat an old argument because the argument above is a repeat as well. Are you backing out? Are you now saying that the crime of false advertisement CAN be perpetrated even if the perpetrating company never sold anything?

LOL!!!!

LMAO!

1. stuPID4 (Yuri, your employer)

2. RustyWriter (admitted criminal)

Congratulations. The company that you keep speaks volumes.

Now, STFU, crook.

Yes, I "deserve it" because I exposed you for the fraudulent, lying, scum-of-the-Earth charlatan that I always claimed you to be, Margaret Marsot. Since you want to username-drop, I believe it was pheelyks who also called you out for your YEARS-LONG lie and fake identity campaign and the fact that you had to fraudulently pose as a MALE, ESL writer because you couldn't legitimately or fairly refute my assertions about the average, ESL writer in the essay industry. YOU ARE PATHETIC!

I also "deserve it" because I have exposed as fraudulent dozens of site/companies over the years, thereby helping to educate and protect what is certainly thousands upon thousands of innocent people from fraudsters and scammers like you and your employer.

Finally, I "deserve it" because I am "mean" to liars, fraudsters, and ESL impostors who defraud unsuspecting consumers.

Indeed, I "deserve" all of your bitter scorn. In fact, it makes me smile!

:)

I wasn't talking about STU. ^_^


Not at all. You can expose me all you want. Do you know that since you exposed me as a native English writer,, I've gotten more clients out of this forum? ^___^ I said it once and I'll say it again: You got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that can hurt me. ^___^

Hey, if you say that there are countless competent ESL writers in the world, I got nothing against that. ^______^


You ended that debate in my favor for me. ^___^ So no, that's NOT it.


My employ--- you mean EW? Can't you read, numbskull?

Oh but you didn't answer my question:

Are you backing out? Are you now saying that the crime of false advertisement CAN be perpetrated even if the company never sold anything?
LOL!!!!

I wish some of the companies I worked for would put me on advertising. I'd clean house.

WB, please stop saying you are here to help people and expose fraud.

as far as helping people, all you do to newbies with questions is accuse them of spamming and yell at them if they ask for recommendations.

your fraud-exposing tools are primitive-- Google and public records. you're no sleuth. you're an internet weirdo. it's unhealthy, what you're doing. promise me you'll seek help.

I already clearly explained my position on that, and I will not do so again.

You lost. Shut up and go about your dirty business, Margie.


Really?

I'm also sorry that you have a problem with respecting others' property and abiding by rules, ya filthy, admitted criminal. By the way, I'm not the only member who rightfully calls out such charlatans.


LMAO! Rusty, just STFU while you're behind. Tell me, for example, what did "Google" and "public records" have to do with the videos that I shot in New York and Virginia and posted in this forum? You know, the videos of the FAKE ADDRESSES that your dirty employer posted on his sites and had no choice but to remove after my investigations . . . . I guaran-damn-tee you that the crook never expected someone to VISIT those fake addresses, and now his crimes are on public record forever.

WB, you search Google and public records for dirt-- just like any other spiteful, civilian weirdo with an internet connection and too much free time. declaring yourself a super-crusader in this context is pathetic enough-- you don't even need the little road-trips (where did you get those addresses? Google and public records!).

I have to say, though, WB, I like your general drift towards IRL stalking. it's going to get you locked up quicker, and it's probably better exercise. when the cops eventually catch you rooting through Yuri's curbside garbage like some perverse raccoon, I hope you remember to tell them what a service you're doing the grateful, graceful, and totally worth-protecting customers of the essay-mill industry.