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Why every writing company needs a Kenyan Writer



Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 04, 2011 | #1
Kenyan writers are no nonsense species of writers.
They always follow instructions,write in good English,write 100% original papers, and beat deadlines,no matter how tight.The bottom line is that they write very high quality papers and provide very high quality services. However,they are very costly in terms of contractor remunerations.
pheelyks  
Oct 04, 2011 | #2
Apparently they don't know how to use commas, though. Other than that and the fact that everything you said was a complete lie, that's some decent advice.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 04, 2011 | #3
Only if I could reach for your "bushy ass", I would have shaved it clean.

Well,I do apologize for any insult in my remarks, just remember to stop lecturing me.I have not enough capital to compensate for your unsolicited tutoring services.

Good day!
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 04, 2011 | #4
Heremeout: How do you expect to get better at writing in English if you won't accept any criticism? Surely if one of your customers sent a complaint regarding the wording you used in your essay (and how their paper received a mark of 18%) you would know better than to revert to personal insults if you seriously expected to earn anything in the industry. Moreover, why Kenyan writers as a general rule? Are they like some kind of "apex predator" super hero level in your version of the writing industry? Well, alright, I conceed; a chacma baboon is an apex predator in its own right as well, but I think most would still opt for the services of a human writer. :P
munywab  7 | 94   Company Representative
Oct 04, 2011 | #5
a chacma baboon is an apex predator in its own right as well, but I think most would still opt for the services of a human writer. :P

lol
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 04, 2011 | #6
Aw, and after all that I misspelled concede :P Well, I shall take my own advice and aim to do better with the spelling next time; Heremeout, it would be much appreciated on the forum if you would do the same with your grammatical ability, insults, capacity to accept criticism in any form ...and your whole basic writing style.

Have a nice day ^_^
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 05, 2011 | #7
It`s now clear to me that people like Pheelykes are not scarce around!

Now listen "Itsme"! If Pheelykes sent you here to defend him,he sent a very incompetent fool. A boring sucker!

To be honest,your English proficiency is still very poor! I would rather cope with Pheelyke`s substandard writing skills.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 05, 2011 | #8
It`s now clear to me that people like Pheelykes are not scarce around!

@^ Implying that I'm like pheelyks ...lol.

Now listen "Itsme"!

How can I listen to your text? LOL.

If Pheelykes sent you here

Who is Pheelykes? Also no.

If Pheelykes sent you here to defend him,he sent a very incompetent fool.

I'm sure he doesn't need my help against you, but you are pretty funny. ^_^ And it's a good thing he didn't send me then, because the way your crappy sentence is structured leaves your insult dependent on this to work. :P

A boring sucker!

^__^ If you're sooo bored by me why don'tcha just take a hike? Oh that's right, because I think the sucker in this exchange is you ...You amuse me, and this is exactly why ...

To be honest

I think we might as well quit right here. :P

honest,your English proficiency is still very poor!

You should put a space after the comma. You do this all the time. You sure are doing a good job at losing customers if you actually write essays ^_^ that's almost cringeworthy ...

I would rather cope with Pheelyke`s substandard writing skills.

LOL! Riiiiight ...:P I don't think you honestly are coping with this whole writing thing ...you wanna lie down and call it a day? ^_^
pheelyks  
Oct 05, 2011 | #9
It`s now clear to me that people like Pheelykes are not scarce around!

That makes less sense than you think it does.

I would rather cope with Pheelyke`s substandard writing skills.

Would you care to cite an example of my substandard writing skills? From here on out, heremeout, I'll point out as many of your errors as I have time for. I know how much the typical Kenyan loves to be corrected.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 05, 2011 | #10
"You sure are doing" a good job at losing customers if you actually write essays

Imagine you, of all the ESL writers, making such silly mistakes in your written grammar! I suspect your spoken English is pathetic!

you would know better than to revert to personal insults if you seriously expected "to earn anything in the industry"

This excerpt is one of your often poorly structured sentences.You will agree with me that you truly need help in polishing your English language!

Would you care to cite an example of my substandard writing skills?

I do not have time for gathering them.But one thing is for sure, if I were to compile them, I will come up with at least two volumes of books each titled "Pheelyks`Terrible Writing Skills Questioned!"
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #11
I do not have time for gathering them

How about just one, then?

them.But

You forgot a space.

sure, if

That comma should be a colon.

if I were to compile them, I will

"will" should be "would"

each

unnecessary word

"Pheelyks`Terrible

forgot a space
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #12
Pheelyks; Why are you craving for my downfall !? You really want to see me go down, don't you?

The errors you often point out from my statements are rather very insignificant. Unlike in your case. Okay, let`s see where this battle for superiority leads us.

Henceforth, be very careful when posting on this site. I will be checking your grammar usage. An in-depth scrutiny to every English word you attempt to use will be necessary.
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #13
Why are you craving for my downfal

The "for" shouldn't be there.

point out from my statements

"from" should be "in"

rather very

redundant

insignificant

On their own, perhaps, but they're constant.

Unlike in your case

Sentence fragment. You have yet to point out any of the "significant errors" you seem to think I make, either.

Okay, let`s see where this battle for superiority leads us.

You've already lost, and you're the only one that doesn't know it.

An in-depth scrutiny to

"The in-depth scrutiny of," perhaps, but the whole sentence needs work.

word you attempt to use

If the word appears here, I've used it. "Attempt" is logically inappropriate.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #14
You "have" yet to point out any of the "significant errors"

Read for yourself, and please, write in English.

If you have to correct me, begin by correcting yourself. Moreover, I find it very intolerable dealing with an imbecile like you.

You are so thick in the head, to the extent that you do not realize the language you continue using is no-longer English.
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #15
pheelyks:
You "have" yet to point out any of the "significant errors"

Why did you add quote marks around "have"?

begin by correcting yourself.

Again, you have yet to point out a single error.

to the extent that you do not realize the language you continue using is no-longer English.

It never fails. Correct an arrogant Kenyan "writer" long enough and they become truly unintelligible.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #16
It never fails. Correct an arrogant Kenyan "writer" long enough and they become truly unintelligible.

Firstly, I must point out that most of your statements make no sense. Consider rewriting the above statement, for clarity please.

Secondly, remember to write in English. The language you have resorted to using is not English anymore. Kindly adjust, or forever quite your attempts to write in English.
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #17
Firstly

"First," not "firstly."

I must point out that most of your statements make no sense.

How so?

Consider rewriting the above statement, for clarity please

Here: "You're an idiot, and you're too full of yourself to see it."

quite

quit
munywab  7 | 94   Company Representative
Oct 06, 2011 | #18
Secondly

remember to write in English

Phyleeks, add this to your list. This boy should stop posting or commenting in a foreign language.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #19
"First," not "firstly."

Explain, in perfect grammar, what is wrong if choose to use "Firstly" instead of "First". You must explain this instance.

I feel like throwing up!

"First," not "firstly."

You must be an ESL writer for real. No wonder you continue to make serious grammatical errors.

The problem with you is that you are unable to identify your weakness in grammar.This has made it so difficult for me to help.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #20
This has made it so difficult for me to help

You need serious psychiatric help as you're a victim of superiority complex.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 06, 2011 | #21
LOL! Are you still around? ^_^ What a big joke!

You are actually too dumb to realise that the sentences you pointed out as some kind of testament to our awful ESL writing really only depict you as a crappy ESL writer with little understanding of commonly used English phrases (eg. 'You sure are ...'). Google them: people use them all the time. The words you picked out from both of our sentences are completely random and you give absolutely no explanation for this, but feel free to keep embarrassing yourself. Don't let me spoil your fun; it amuses me greatly. The reason it sucks to be you here is that the EFL forum users who check this thread (your prospective customers, not mine) are going to see what you clearly cannot.

There is a difference between an idiom and an idiot. ^_^
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #22
Total garbage!!

MeoKhan

The person in need of a psychiatrist`s help is you. Watch your ass you moron, because if you don't, I will mess it up!

You are actually too dumb to realise that the sentences you pointed out as some kind of testament to our awful ESL writing really only depict you as a crappy ESL writer

Your statement is too wordy. There are also no pauses. Please make use of punctuation marks to make your sentences easy to read.
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #23
if choose

Forgot "I".

"Firstly" instead of "First"

They mean the exact same thing in this context, so using the longer form is unnecessarily complex.

I feel like throwing up!

Put something in front of the mirror.
OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #24
Good night friend! Right now I just want to sleep.We will discuss your poor grammar someday.
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #25
sleep.We

Missed a space.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 06, 2011 | #26
I'm sorry, but maybe you oughta just speed up a little. :)

I agree that a bit of punctuation would have helped that sentence along, especially when you omit all the intonation I used in the first place. At the same time, though, it looks to me like you can't even hope to take in that many English words in one sitting, let alone attempt to put them together. So, so-rry if my 'long' sentence was a little too complex for you. ^__^

Total garbage!!

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OP Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #27
especially when you omit all the intonation I used in the first place.

I have noticed you are not only poor in constructing sentences in English, but also very fond of breaking the rules of grammar. You do not seem to see them, so I have decided to identify for you a few of them from the above excerpt.The following statements should be checked for grammar:

'omit' should be 'omitted'
intonation should be 'intonations'

Begin by correcting these silly mistakes!

it looks to me like you can't even hope to take in that many English words in one sitting,

This is horrible. Your grammar is pathetic and you have to accept this fact. I suggest you refrain from posting on this site to avoid unnecessary wastage of space.

Your entire conversation is vapid and rubbish!
pheelyks  
Oct 06, 2011 | #28
I have noticed you are not only poor in constructing sentences in English

Ahh, the irony.

excerpt.The

Missed a space.

'omit' should be 'omitted'
intonation should be 'intonations'

This would place itsme's sentence in a different tense/case, subtly changing the meaning. Both ways are correct. You really ought to work on your own skills before trying to hand out advice to others.

Your grammar is pathetic and you have to accept this fact.

As far as I can tell, itsme has never claimed to be a fantastic writer. English is clearly not his native language, just like it isn't yours, but only one of you has lied about this and has an inflated opinion of his skills.

conversation is vapid and rubbish!

The "and" is completely unnecessary.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 06, 2011 | #29
LOL. You're a little bit off the mark there, but I realise this is more than likely my own fault in this case, so, sorry pheelyks. :P

Writing JourneyFor clarity's sake, though I'd love to keep up the facade, English is my native language. :P I am aware I've made a ton of grammatical mistakes in the last few threads. To be honest, I was hoping (in vain) that our good friend Heremeout would rise to the bait and call me out on some of the more obvious ones, but, alas, he seems to be incapable of picking out anything except typos. If the more recent posts are anything to go by he's also apparently been reduced, in his desperation, to adopting a pseudo-condescending tone that makes him look all the more like a total dumb. :,(

Let's not deny me my enjoyment, though. :P There are a few perfectly good reasons for baiting the moron:

For starters, (ah, sweet informality!) there's the fact that I'm writing on a public forum and don't really care. I'm not searching for clients. In fact, I advise all students to stay away from me if they're looking for essays. I will not help random people with their homework, and I don't want any written for me, either.

There's also the fact that a buffoon like Heremeout probably wouldn't find himself capable of understanding the basic point of a sentence, regardless of how well-constructed it may be, as he's proved time and time again that he's more interested in nitpicking spelling mistakes in a vain effort to make himself appear respectable to other forum users (see the 'company named after you' scenario).

Finally, let us not forget the fact that the whole 'bad writing' gimmick undoubtedly annoys hypocritical, self-righteous grammar Nazis (like him) to no end, resulting in delightful chaos complete with ill-conceived, unsolicited advice that makes the stuck up old nitwits look even more ridiculous. That makes me smile, and for that I will endure the inevitable onslaught of the self-appointed grammar police. Just felt I needed to clear that up though. ^_^
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #30
LOL! Are you still around? ^_^ What a big joke!

And who are you? The most senior member to this forum?
We're here to unmask the scam. If you think you're going to impress me with your nonsense. You're wrong.
I am not on this forum for guys like you who waste everyone's time. I most of my posts I have tried to help people rather than write crap (like you and your chump.)

the sentences you pointed out as some kind of testament to our awful ESL writing

You have serious reading disability. I NEVER did this. Lolz! So you reply to posts without reading them? (Another Time Burger.)

I will mess it up!

Lolz! Your indecency reminds me of a child in my neighborhood who always shouted at older guys and had to run away leaving his thing behind.

I would again cordially request you to find a good psychiatrist. Don't hesitate to find medical care as your case is of high priority. Pheelyks has already shown it to the world. Lolz!

my own fault in this case

You cannot get away. Your English is horrible. You should be ashamed of the fact that with the poor language skills you're shamelessly victimizing others. Your response to P's post above clearly shows you're embarrassed; however, you're at a point where you have NO WAY TO GO. Poor you!
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 06, 2011 | #31
You should be ashamed of the fact that with the poor language skills you're shamelessly victimizing others.

LOL. Riiiight, because Heremeout is just a poor unfortunate victim in all this ...:P I am (understandably) embarrassed to be lumped together with him, in any case.

And who are you? The most senior member to this forum?
We're here to unmask the scam. If you think you're going to impress me with your nonsense. You're wrong.

...For the record, the entire comment you decided to quote and take offence at wasn't directed at you. ^_^

If you are committed to exposing scams, then that's great. I applaud you for your efforts. I'm not here to impress you, though, and this thread is fair game for petty disputes at this stage. :P
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 06, 2011 | #32
you should understand that while you use language so carelessly, you don't deserve to object to how someone else uses a language. Simple. This is why I passed the comment above.

To get a detailed response, you might want to read my reply to HEREMEOUT's impassioned plea.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 06, 2011 | #33
Kay, then maybe you should refrain from calling my English 'horrible' when your own writing is hardly nice to look at. ^_^ That's called being hypocritical.

you should understand that while you use language so carelessly, you don't deserve to object to how someone else uses a language. Simple.

You make it out to be such a terrible thing, and yet you do the exact same thing yourself when you're feeling butthurt from a comment that wasn't even directed at you. :P Why don't you take your own advice?
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 07, 2011 | #34
Why don't you take your own advice?

I have not dissected your language use anywhere.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 07, 2011 | #35
That isn't what you said, hypocrite. :) You really don't like owning up to your mistakes, do you? O.o

In your last two comments you've been having a go at me, with my 'poor language skills,' for insulting others and their use of language.

Your English is horrible. You should be ashamed of the fact that with the poor language skills you're shamelessly victimizing others.

Um, derp?

while you use language so carelessly, you don't deserve to object to how someone else uses a language

Thing is, you're a writer in this whole essay business, and, let's face it, you're no Shakespeare. ^__^ So the fact that you are insulting my writing and condemning me for doing the same to others, while you freely pass judgement, is pretty damn hypocritical. In fact, you have even less of an excuse to be bad at it, because people actually pay you to write for them.

I have just as much right to post freely here as you do. I'm not making a ton of new threads for no reason, I'm not throwing around horribly abusive language unprovoked, and I'm not seriously obstructing your whole scam gig in any way so far. Not only that, but you're joining in with this pointless thread yourself right after complaining about wasting time.

Don't hesitate to find medical care as your case is of high priority.

That is no better than what anyone else has been writing here. Seriously, feel free to join in, I have nothing against you as yet in particular, except for your insults and this hypocritical business. If you're going to join in with stuff like this, though, don't bother with all the holier-than-thou bulls-i*.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 08, 2011 | #36
My point was: I did NOT specifically PICK OUT words, punctuation from your posts (as you did with others). I did also NOT pass any judgment for this reason. My purpose was only to show you the mirror.

This was stance and this really is. It doesn't make me a hypocrite. If you, however, think I am the one, you're free to have any opinions.

Inasmuch as your freedom of posting on this forum is concerned, you're absolutely on your own. Except the Mod, no one can stop you. However, if you're spending so much time in pointing out errors in others' posts, this is no use.

You should contribute to the major focus of this forum - SCAM.
itsme  - | 83  
Oct 08, 2011 | #37
^___^ Oh, right, because all your posts are helpful and focused:

Hahaha!

Lolz! I see the fight is getting rough. No blood please.

Lolz ...

Lol

Look in the mirror yourself. :P

I did NOT specifically PICK OUT words, punctuation from your posts (as you did with others). I did also NOT pass any judgment for this reason.

I think you'll find that making an absolute judgement about someone's writing, regardless of the amount of depth you go into, counts as passing judgement. You're just changing the rules to suit yourself. It would be funny to see you try to find real errors in people's writing though; with any dumb luck, you might stumble upon a few. ^_^

Sigh. It's clear we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I wouldn't want to distract you from a heated debate with Rusty -- I mean, editor75. :P It's all good. You think my English sucks; I think you're being a bit of a moralfag. We both think that the other one is being a hypocrite. That probably isn't going to change in the next few posts, so I guess we should just do what you said and move on.
lsw01  - | 2   Observer
Oct 11, 2011 | #38
"Why every writing company needs a Kenyan Writer"

In theory, I suppose the statements made in this thread make sense...

In reality however, it really doesn't work like that.

I've spent a lot of time 'vetting' writing applicants for the company I used to work for - I've been out of the game for over a year now, but my experience still holds water.

Out of all the applications I've been through, I can think of no more than 5 or 6 writers whose writing lead me to believe they were native English speakers, who it then turned out were ESL writers.

It's all about the details - the subtle nuances in the language that you only pick up by using English with other natives on a daily basis, the sentence structures that just don't 'feel' right.

That said, I've also seen applicants who are native English speakers who wrote junk as well!

Ultimately yes, the question is not 'Are you an ESL writer?', rather 'Can you write native-standard English?'.

Unfortunately, for 99% of ESL writers, the answer is 'No'.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 11, 2011 | #39
move on

Yes, we better move on. Thanks
pheelyks  
Oct 11, 2011 | #40
Heremeout, you're useless. Whatever bickering might have been occurring, at least MeoKhan and itsme used some actual logic and information in their posts. You add nothing here, and it's almost like you're proud of that.




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