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Does writing for a non-American research company make me a crook?


EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Mar 18, 2008 | #1
So here it goes people:

I'm a writer who is currently under the employ of some non-American essay writing companies who lie about where they get their writers. The websites where my mother company supposedly gets its orders from claim that they only hire Americans. This is a lie because I'm not American and have in fact never been to America. I am an established university professor from a third world country which I would rather not mention since my line of work is not very shall we say "appropriate" considering my day job. So far, I have done close to 700 projects including PowerPoint presentations, resumes, statistical researches, and the like mostly for American and European students. I have not had any complaints from approximately 94% of that total and the complaints that I've had have rarely been valid (but of course, I also make mistakes at times).

Here's the gist as to why I made this thread. Writers Beware, one of the older people on this board has been claiming time and time again that I am a crook because I work for the companies that I described. I'd like to ask the people of this forum whether or not they agree. That is all. Thanks. ^_^
kian91919  4 | 19  
Mar 18, 2008 | #2
Hi

Do you also work at writers.ph? Actually, I also have a good ratings in that firm, and so far, I believe they do pay their writers, although sometimes it really gets delayed but they do pay. Are you working in their firm or at least had the experience?
OP EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Mar 18, 2008 | #3
No, I don't. >.<
margie  - | 52  
Mar 18, 2008 | #4
@EW: If you're a crook, then, so am I since I knowingly write every now and then for a non-American essay writing company that claims it is only hiring native speakers. Don't worry about it. There are bigger crimes in the world.

Anyway, I'm a managing editor of an American publication. Surprise, surprise. I wonder if our subscribers know that Asians write and edit what they're reading everyday. ",) Now, does it make my American publisher a crook?
WritersBeware  
Mar 19, 2008 | #5
Now, does it make my American publisher a crook?

If your American publisher OPENLY ADVERTISES that all of its editors are native English-speaking Americans, the answer is a resounding "Yes." However, I doubt that's the case, and you are comparing apples to oranges. Quite frankly, I think you know better.
OP EW_writer  21 | 1981 ☆☆☆  
Mar 19, 2008 | #6
Don't worry about it. There are bigger crimes in the world.

Just wanted to clear the issue up here once and for all. Thank you for your input. :D Any other takers?
eriktran  - | 3   Observer
Feb 11, 2013 | #7
I am new to this forum and seeking a good writer. I guess I have to make a couple of good posts before I could email a writer :(. Been searching the forum for an hour or 2 now and noticing EW_writer. Please email me if you see this reply :)
LawEssayUK  1 | 26   Freelance Writer
Feb 12, 2013 | #8
I suggest that you post your requirements on essaychat.com where you will be able to receive replies without breaking any forum rules. It might be useful to post the question or give an indication of the subject matter.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Feb 13, 2013 | #9
@EW: If you're a crook, then, so am I

Me too. Just spell my name right, please.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Apr 20, 2018 | #10
I don't think you are a crook. The company owner is a crook because he makes a profit off lying to students and paying a pittance to his writers from the Third World countries. You are however, an accessory to deceit, which, in my book, is different from being a crook. You are just trying to get by and make some additional income for yourself as I do not doubt that you are not paid well as a professor either. After all, if you were paid well, you would not be working a second job right? A crook is someone who makes boldfaced claims knowing very well that he is not even telling a half truth. That would be your boss. Since you are not making the writer origin claims yourself, but merely fulfilling an obligation to a client, who was lied to by your boss, I don't see how you can be seen as the crook in this instance. Like I said, I won't absolve you in this matter since you are still an accessory to the lie, but you are the least guilty party in this instance.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jun 23, 2018 | #11
Crook WriterSince you just work for the company, I find it hard to call you a crook.

So the company is not based on the US. That doesn't make your company a crook either.

Both of you are providing a service in an academic gray area. Okay, your company is making false claims about its location and its writers.

That is a claim that a majority of the writing companies these days are making as well. I do not see any harm in that provided the company actually services the students and doesn't just blackmail them or deliver cookie cutter papers.

It is only if the company does not deliver on its promises or when they blackmail the students that I would consider the company as composed of a bunch of crooks.

Getting back to you... I don't consider you a crook for working for the company for as long as you are not doing a disservice to your clients. You are a writer, you are trying to earn an honest living without turning to stealing or blackmailing. If you are working based on good intentions, then you can never be a crook in my book. Even if you do not work for an American company or if the company you are working for is lying about its location and its writing staff.
writer4life  3 | 297  FEATURED   Freelance Writer
Sep 07, 2018 | #12
I don't think you're a crook. Sure, you now know they are claiming something that isn't true. However, you can't control what a company says or doesn't say. What you do have control over is how well you write and treat the customers whose work is assigned to you. There's already a stigma of working with writers whose native language isn't English, so don't worry about. Just work hard and be you! As for the gray area, everyone here works in the gray area so no one has the right to judge. ;)
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 07, 2018 | #13
Agreed. The people running the company and/or those who are directly involved in perpetuating those lies are the only crooks. A writer who's simply writing and delivering projects that actually satisfy customers isn't doing anything wrong. By the contrary analysis, every employee at Wells Fargo was a criminal (including every secretary and janitor) when the bank was determined to have engaged in large-scale fraud perpetrated by its executives.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jun 08, 2020 | #14
Anybody who is trying to earn an honest living, regardless of his location in the world, is never a crook. You are not stealing the money that is given to you. There is actually an exchange of service for a specific amount to be paid by the client. Both you and the company, regardless of its location, are in the field of public service. The students look for only 1 thing in a writer, that is his ability to deliver what he needs based on the amount paid. You accomplished that 94 % of the time, so there is no crime being committed. All I see is work delivered for a fee. You work, you satisfy a particular purpose, the client is happy, that doesn't make you a crook, it makes you a good worker.
noted  6 | 1912 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 10, 2025 | #15
While working for a non - American company does not make you a crook, you become one if you assist in the bad actions of the writing company or, do not fulfill your duties and responsibilities as promised to the client. That said, this business requires writers to help students with their academic papers, regardless of their location in the world. If you can write in a language other than English, then you will have a better shot at gaining a larger student client base. Treat the clients well and provide what they did. Do not assist in stealing from them so that you avoid becoming a crook in cahoots with the company.
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