Academic Thesis Writer - Let's Sort This Out Once and For All

Okay, let's hear everyone's views of Academic Thesis Writers.

Honestly?

Looks like it was set up by a child. Beyond that, no idea if it's genuine or not, but I note that certain people on this site are fanatical in their defence...

What is your question? I've been writing for them since 2003 and have no other interest except as one of their writers. I'm not "fanatical" about it, but when I read total BS on here I defend them based on what I know firsthand.

That company has been around for a long time. Web site design is poor. And I think this web site and Academic Thesis Writer are affiliated as I do see negative about all other companies but this one.

Also back in the day I remember a slogan on Academic Thesis Writer: certified by essayscam and vice versa.

Thank you.

Wrong.


Wrong.

Any more LIES?

If you are attacking Academic Thesis Writer just to get WB all worked up...then I applaud you because it is fun watching her/him work. If you are attacking Thesis Writer because you own another company then for shame. Thesis Writer may look horrible as a site, may never answer emails, may never have online support, and may have horrible service...but they are legit. They are not scammers. I personally think of them as the spam of the essay world. They are not great, but it is still technically meat.

Essay writers and the other ukraine scams...they are the genetically modified horse meat of the essay world...or god knows what else they may be.

I can't speak to the availability of customer service, but as a writer for ATW for the past year I know they pay well for quality work. It looks like they haven't changed their website since it was first set up a decade ago, but I think customers prefer substance over flash anyway.

I have also heard (on this site, so who knows what's true) that ATW sometimes farms out its work to other companies. If this is the case, customers need to be a little more wary, but you can request specific writers and the company will ensure that either that writer completes the project or the customer is given the option for a refund (before any work is completed by someone else, that is). I've had both requests and terminations of orders prior to my completing them for this reason.

I started out working for UVOCorp (Brownie Freelance Ukrainian bastards may they rot in hell), and can see the similarities between their websites and many other frauds. ATW's site, while less up-to-date, is not nearly as abhorrent or unbelievable.

Mre, should I even bother to ask you to provide proof to support your accusations against ATW's service?

As for the design, if it's not broken, don't fix it. Has it ever occurred to you that ATW is one of the oldest (and probably the single most successful), commercial essay sites on the Internet and the owners may not want to tweak the design of the site in fear of negatively impacting its excellent search engine rankings? Seriously-you don't think that they could AFFORD to hire a new designer? Give me a break. Think outside of the box for two seconds.

By the way, the owners openly acknowledge that the design isn't "flashy."

Sure thing...go to their site and click on the 24 hour service button...tell me what it says. Also, go to their contact form and submit a question....once again tell me what it says.

Also...click on the link. Academic Thesis Writer dropping the ball in a big way. I do not care what the excuse may be...it is never acceptable to leave a customer hanging like they did.


Actually WB is correct. It was not certified by essayscam.org...it was certified by essay fraud.

However, since that site is now defunct the approved seal is not on the Academic Thesis Writer site anymore. But they look really close in format.

WB:

I mentioned the truth only. I do not mean to bring troubles. And if I was correct I understand why you are coming acroll calling me a liar.

See you later aligator! ;)

That reporter is a jack*ss. All that matters:

"The $220 charged for an overnight $1500 word essay would be reimbursed."
(I mean, the dork actually published "$1500 word"-you're going to hang your hat on that incompetent dolt?)

The reporter INTENTIONALLY ordered a geographically-specific paper, with OVERNIGHT service (based on Australia's time zone, so most of ATW's American staff and writers were probably sound asleep), in order to be able to criticize.

The order was impossible for a non-Australian company to complete overnight, especially with the massive time zone difference. Accordingly, ATW honestly and promptly refunded the payment, having no idea that the person was an incompetent reporter.


Are you retarded? Mre just confirmed that you lied.

Jealousy is very ugly.

Now let's be objective here. This is what happened:

"But a handful of phone messages asking how the essay was going were never returned, and on the day the essay was due to arrive there was instead an apology, saying they could not find a writer to answer the four short questions about Australian unemployment figures. The $220 charged for an overnight $1500 word essay would be reimbursed."

They did not refund until right before...I would not consider this to be prompt. If they could not handle the order then they should refund immediately. No communication, although they have a 24 hour communication line, which is never working. They dropped the ball, and even you must admit this.

It's nice to know that you still love shoving words into people's mouths. Mre clarified a mistake that Writer John made regarding what organization certified ATW. A statement that Writer John himself originally expressed uncertainty with.


When bloggers and associated content writers (who aren't officially press people) support your statements, you sing them praises to high heaven, but when a reporter from a real newspaper criticizes ATW (a company that you claim to have no affiliations with whatsoever Haha!!!), you immediately call the reporter a dolt with only a typo dollar sign to support your statement with. Amazing!

On a lighter note, I'm glad that your suspension is over. Now you can get back to getting your a** kicked. :D


WritersBeware: Your source has a typo. It shouldn't be taken seriously.

When one states something as FACT for the sole purpose to DISCREDIT and DEFAME, it's a lie. Educate yourself, please.


Actually, the only reason why I initially returned to this abused, overrun, joke of a forum is because I was informed of the activity of the CNN reporter herein. Regardless, I have proven countless times that you cannot defeat me in ANY type of legitimate debate. You sir, are a low-paid, criminal hack who can't find decent employment from a legitimate employer.

How's the weather on the base today?


Yeah, right.


Yeah, a handful of calls during the middle of the night, from Australia, when most of ATW's staff is sleeping. Funny-the "reporter" doesn't mention that fact because it's not in his "plan."


"On the day the essay was due?" Nice try by the reporter. He falsely leads readers to believe that he placed the order DAYS in advance. Wrong. He placed the order in the middle of the night, US time, for completion and delivery in LESS THAN 24 HOURS. That means that the order was placed on the SAME DAY (less than a 24-hour window) on which he requested that it be researched, written, and delivered. At most, ATW had only 23 hours to find an appropriate writer (yeah, they actually CARE which writer takes the project), conduct the extensive research, write the paper, proofread, and deliver to the reporter, working with a huge time difference and geographically-specific topic. We're only talking ONE DAY in total, from the time the jerk placed the order until the time that ATW politely confirmed the refund of his intentionally-impossible-to-complete order.

To suggest that ATW "dropped the ball" is absurd. At the absolute worst, ATW responded and processed the refund in 23 hours, despite the difficult position in which the reporter intentionally placed the company, knowing perfectly well the time difference for an American company. For all we know, ATW could have responded/refunded in 5, 8, 12 hours-we'll never know; the reporter didn't include those details because he had an obvious agenda.

My point is they have a 24 hour communication line if I am not mistaken. This line is never up or open. They lack communication. If they had on their site that they may not answer you late at night then fine, but the impression the customer receives is they are constantly there 24 hours a day.

Take down the 24 hour service and I am fine with ATW's communication.

There you go putting your foot in your mouth again.


Clearly, WriterJohn simply mistook essayscam for essay fraud. I don't think that counts as a lie since Academic Thesis Writer did have "certified by essay fraud" plastered on it before essay fraud went kaput.


Hey, so do you but you don't see us pointing fingers (*hides fingers). :D


Which means that they are lying about having a 24-hour support service, right?


Tell yourself that enough number of times and some psychologists say that you may one day succeed in deluding yourself completely. :D Until then, your life will continue to suck big wind.


Once again, there is no such thing as a legitimate provider of homework to students. To even consider the idea that this entire industry can be called "legitimate" by contemporary society is an indulgence in absurdity. That said, I am no more a criminal than you are. :D

You are an admitted liar and filthy criminal who couldn't out-write me to save his life.

Keep making chump-change, loser!

How's the weather on the base today? (I can't help but notice that you have ignored this question about 5 times.)

If by "writing" you mean picking out spelling and grammatical errors from other people's work, I'm sure that I can give you a run for your money but I do admit that you have the upper hand.


I make anywhere between $10 to $60 for every page I write, and even more under special circumstances. Anyone else wanna call this chump change? (which btw, is not conventionally spelled with a dash, idiot :p)


Keep noticing. ^_^

You're just a little b**-h who's mad because ATW and other legit companies in the US refused to hire your sorry, unqualified, crooked, morally bankrupt ase. You're scum, and your extremely limited job opportunities reflect that fact. Only criminals want a criminal on staff.


Yeah, that's what I thought. Don't worry-I've got some "feelers" out about you through certain military sources. I already know where you are and who you AREN'T (as well as some other very interesting facts, but I don't like to play all of my cards in public). :-) You damn well better hope that I don't track you down, because I have more than enough dirt on you to bring severe disciplinary actions, including but not limited to both military court and criminal court charges.

By the way-thanks for all of the admissions, in writing, in this forum. Dipsht.

I doubt anyone with a decent career would waste their time posting here :)


This is getting interesting!

Sure you don't. :D


Oh yes it is. ^___^ You gonna wait for her to back her words up?


Tsk tsk... did this sting that much?


Idiot.

Sure. I'll check back in a decade or two

Yes, Academic Thesis Writer is a proven fraud as well. They all fraud, especially ATW - don't be fooled.

(show your true face WB)

Right on.

WriterJohn

I was mainly implying the reason for the suspicions that WB is the fraud and is biased...not that ATW is the fraud.

I merely stated that ATW is horribly ran and has horrible communication...which is a fact.

All of you ATW haters need to get a life-seriously.


Don't be emptied, either.

Ignorant jack.

well that settles it.

I would like to see a lawsuit over a message board over an essay site. It is obvious now WB that you are affiliated with ATW..which is not that big of a deal. I cannot believe you never admitted it before.

However, saying that you were not affiliated with them brings up questions.

We all know you are rabid in defending ATW at every turn...it is like a broken record.

Anecdotal Evidence against ATW = you are a ukrainian fraud that does not know anything!
Article Written about Academic Thesis Writer = That writer is retarded!!

You need to have a little more tact in your responses and then people would not suspect anything.

And you say my countdown was unfair.

Post proof, or shut the hell up.


Why do you blame me for defending the TRUTH? I absolutely dare you to prove that anything that I have ever typed in relation to defending ATW is untrue. I also dare you to prove that I have never defended other, legitimate companies. (CLUE: You can't, so you might as well admit that fact now.)


That's what you call defamatory bullsht? "Anecdotal evidence"? Get real, apologist.


I typed no such thing. Any more LIES, doosh? What I clearly stated is that the press release was obviously written by a paid SEO agent who does not understand how the company works.


You need to keep your dumb*ss opinions and accusations to yourself. I don't give a damn what you think. If you don't have evidence to prove a claim, don't publish that claim-period. Anyone who makes baseless, false accusations against me can expect harsh retaliation. If you don't like it, don't F with me. Clear?

This is a ******* ridiculous thread.

WB, your defense of Academic Thesis Writer has sometimes bordered on the insane in the past, but this time you've crashed over the line and become such a parody of yourself, I briefly wondered if someone had hacked into your account.

On this particular topic, my friend, I think the game is up.

Truer words were never spoken.

WB gets real defensive when I paraphrase what he/she says. Yes...she did infer the reporter was not intelligent...and had an "agenda"....uh oh. This is getting old, and it is time that WB stop strutting around acting like the board moderator.

"Recommendations are not allowed!" ---WB

Hey guess what? You are not the moderator...so mind your own business. You are like the goody goody girl that tells on people when the teacher is not around, but the minute somebody shines the light on you...you throw a tantrum. It is time to step away from the keyboard WB...you have blown your cover.


Once again...I will explain...and try to follow along ok?

You stated...numerous times...that you are in no way affiliated with ATW. You lied. That is why I am attacking you. You are a deceptive liar, and nobody should trust what you say...no matter if it is true or not. Nobody should even acknowledge your lying handle in this forum. The jig is up. You are a lying fraud.

Academic Thesis Writer: Oh hi... we're a company that writes model homework papers for students. We'd like to complain against our off-shore competitors who steal customers from us by being way cheaper.

Feds: .... what's the nature of your business again?

Thesis Writer: We.. write model papers for students. You know, answers to essay assignments given by teachers across all levels of education.

Feds: So you're a company that helps students cheat in their academics?

Thesis Writer: Oh goodness gracious, no. We write only model papers for our clients. It's what the answer is supposed to look like but they're not supposed to turn it in. They're just supposed to use it as a guide and make their own work while citing our work properly.

Feds: Riiight... so these students don't hand the papers that they buy from you for credit?

Thesis Writer: It's against our site's rules to do that.

Feds: Ok. We'll coordinate this concern with the Department of Education and get back to you.

Thesis Writer: What?!? What d'ya need to do that for?

Feds: *smirks* In case you haven't noticed, we're not idiots. Thanks for coming out in the open with all this information for us. Actually, we've been trying to bring down this nationwide scourge of academic fraud that our analysts say have been gravely affecting the economy by allowing people to obtain college degrees to get jobs that they're ultimately not qualified to do.

Thesis Writer: That's not fair!! You should be going after the off-shore companies, not ALL companies!!!

Feds: Err... are you serious? Off-shore companies are nearly impossible to bring down. That's why our directive is to eliminate all the local companies that we can get to first. Universities that we're coordinating with have all agreed to revoke the degrees of any of their graduates found guilty of cheating by using companies like yours. I'm going to have to ask for your records.

Thesis Writer: Oh.. but we don't keep records of our old clients anymore.. sorry.

Feds: Really? When were you last audited?

Thesis Writer: *gulp*

Feds: Yeah, I thought so. Thanks a lot. You'e coming here is such a breakthrough for us. :D

- to be continued...

I am not sure Academic Thesis Writer would appreciate WB being their legal spokesperson...

"Audited"? Really?

So your understanding of federal law and administrative agencies is that there's a single federal office where copyright infringement cases and education issues are handled and the IRS also works out of the same room and agents for all those agencies hand files to one another across the desk?

You realize that federal copyright issues apply just as much to industries and products that you may find "offensive" (like essay writing and hardcore midget orn) as to industries and products that you consider "acceptable," right? You're aware that appellate courts of law have already decided those types of issues in favor of commercial essay companies, right?

Are you aware of any federal law that prohibits commercial essay writing, even where students do turn them in for credit as you suggest? If not, that would make your scenario there pretty stupid unless you think your opinion of a particular industry or practice dictates what issues federal agencies pursue rather than violations of federal law.

There is no law against cheating. It may be found to be unethical, but there is no crime. I do not think EW knows American laws too well.

Not at all. What I'm saying is the Feds would most likely raise an eyebrow if they found out that the complainant's business was illegal in several states. ^_^ You think otherwise? Plus, I'm certain that other departments aren't more than just a phone call away since that's how it is in our country. Are you saying that the U.S. actually has a more backward bureaucracy than a third world nation?


What my short skit simply pointed out is the fact that WB is just using her legal-sounding threats to scare customers away from using websites other than ATW. I also just pointed out that if the feds would ever come after essay mills, sites like Academic Writers that supposedly are physically based in the U.S. would be the first to go and it would most likely be just their clients who would suffer the consequences of federal government involvement.


That's true, which is why I don't write law essays (even though some forum members did ask me to do so a couple of times before, I declined of course). ^_^ However, I am aware (thanks to WB and humble) that there are laws that prohibit the sale of homework, dissertations, and what not in several American states.


Also, I never claimed that people who use essay mills are at risk of going to jail. I'm sure that you'd agree with me though that if the head honchos at Harvard ever found out who among their graduates used Academic Thesis Writer, Essay Bay, Best Essays, or any other paper mill to get a diploma, they'll most certainly do something about it.

I am not aware of any law that prohibits the selling of homework. I cannot see how it is illegal unless the work is copyrighted. I am a lawyer and cannot think of any other way it would be illegal.

And what I'm saying is that is really an idiotic statement. The "Feds" only have jurisdiction over violations of federal law and do not investigate purported violations of state law. Copyright infringement is a violation of federal law.


The only thing "backwards" is your ridiculous perception of how large U.S. federal agencies work, as though an agent with "raised eyebrows" from one agency just calls up the IRS and says "I need you to audit somebody." Stick to skits about your own country where the only way to get anything accomplished with any government agency is to grease somebody with cash every time you submit a form or apply for any kind of legal registration for anything regulated by the government in any way, shape, or form.

Shucks.. you misunderstood again. The fed officer in the skit didn't threaten to audit ATW, the skit was just pointing out that if ATW was a real company, it probably has been audited before if not regularly.


So are you saying that the "mountains of evidence" that WB has been collecting on Stu4 are all about Stu4 violating copyright laws? Plus, is it really utterly impossible that a fed officer upon realizing that the business that was asking help from him was selling homework to students wouldn't at the very least call the ED to tell them about it? I don't live in the U.S. but unless you guys got robots tending your offices now, I'm quite certain that a raised eyebrow can at least lead to a phone call.


Click the link. ^_^ It's not a fed law, just a state law. There are similar laws in other states, but I'm too lazy to look for them (heck, I was too lazy to look for the one humble found).

I have no idea and haven't been following any of that but I know that copyright accusations have been thrown around here before and I'm saying that's an example of federal law, unlike any of the nonsense you're talking about in connection with "Feds." Without going through pages and pages of other peoples' fights here, I assumed this must relate somehow to federal crimes like copyright infringement of ATW's intellectual property.


Yes. it's utterly impossible that a U.S. federal agent would take it upon himself to violate the U.S. Constitution by trying to enforce state laws because that power is reserved to the authorities of individual states. Any education laws of that type are also under state not federal authority.


It's not about "robots"; it's about states enforcing state laws and federal authorities enforcing federal laws and a Constitution that prohibits federal establishment or enforcement of state laws.

Obviously, there are communication channels between all U.S. law enforcement authorities to share important information and alerts over serious threats and joint investigations of major crimes like homicides, criminal gang activity, terrorism, etc. Your scenario of a federal agent calling local authorities over purported violations of state laws about homework is as stupid as one about an FBI or DEA or IRS agent working in the federal building in Manhattan calling up the NYPD to let them know there might be a double parked car in one of their their precincts that he noticed on his way to work.

Anybody can be mistaken about a topic he knows nothing about; only a true idiot continually expresses being "quite certain" about a subject he admits to knowing nothing about.