Academic Thesis Writer - Let's Sort This Out Once and For All

Then I guess you must've assumed incorrectly. If you'd read up on the last couple of pages, I think you may have a better understanding of what the skit is really all about.


Seriously? A U.S. federal agent would violate U.S. laws if he made a phone call to another U.S. government agency like the ED? Sheesh.. you guys are tough. :D

Again:

Obviously, there are communication channels between all U.S. law enforcement authorities to share important information and alerts over serious threats and joint investigations of major crimes like homicides, criminal gang activity, terrorism, etc. Your scenario of a federal agent calling local authorities over purported violations of state laws about homework is as stupid as one about an FBI or DEA or IRS agent working in the federal building in Manhattan calling up the NYPD to let them know there might be a double parked car in one of their their precincts that he noticed on his way to work.

Again:

Any education laws of that type are also under state not federal authority.


In my opinion, it's a lot "tougher" to have no choice but to bribe everybody you deal with in any governmental capacity the way you have to over in the 3rd World to get a job, build a house, open a business, or pass a driving test.

Ha! I put that rule up in the same light as "if you steal cattle you get hung" in Texas. Those are laws that are unenforceable and will lose in the highest courts for sure. Cheating is not a crime...and that law is enforced in the Education section of California...not the penal code BIG DIFFERENCE. It appears you can only get injunction relief. I am guessing the injunction will be against the company to operate in that state until the matter is settled...which will not fly because it would violate right to contract...although not any civil rights because a company cannot have civil rights. Regardless, this law was created as a feel good law and nothing more. The designers know it will never hold up in court.

The only argument I can make that would somewhat parallel this situation is the outlawing of radar detectors...but the difference is radar detectors are interfering with the enforcement of criminal laws. Cheating is interfering with the ability of the state to graduate competent students.

Does anyone know of a way to contact Academic Writer, because I ordered a document which was to be delivered today at 6p today but have not heard a thing. No answer to my e-mails, or phone calls. Thank you!!

Is it really, or is this just your opinion? I mean, can we actually get someone from the feds to back your claim up that they would never call ED over something weird that comes around their office? ^_^


See, you misunderstood again. >.< I was simply expressing that the American system seemed too strict on its employees, not its citizens in general.


and I guess that's no biggy. ^_^


Actually, similar laws supposedly exist on many other states. Aside from that, trials have happened. From what I get, the essay mills usually win but some of their clients get sacrificed in the process.

Compared to tying up the courts so other matters are not heard...yeah...it is no biggy.

It should be the school's responsibility to enforce their cheating standards...not the court.

But you gotta admit that it has happened. ^_^


Right on. I guess that's why they're usually the complainants in these cases... they're just doing their responsibility.

Look, there are laws that are meant to go after those who sell students homework. There aren't laws that go after the students themselves since cheating isn't a crime (I never said it was). However, if universities complaining against essay mills ever get a hold of a list of their students who have been using such companies' services, it would be an easy matter for them to check if the students cheated and expel those found guilty.

Trust me...if these cases ever went to either the supreme court of the state or the US Supreme Court, the laws would be thrown out. They have no constitutional basis.

I do not believe I ever said that you said it was criminal. However, let an injunction occur and the website ignore that injunction...then you will see criminal proceedings...and if they lock up a writer for doing somebody's homework...that is when the s-i* will hit the fan. I just find the whole thing funny, and nearly impossible to enforce.

If it's the one about gender and tipping behavior, I could write that but the specs you requested (15 sources/ 12 non-Internet, and copies of all the sources) make that virtually impossible for anybody to fill.

I doubt there's much literature available on that topic in the first place and your specs make that a royal PITA for anybody to write. The second I read your specs I clicked off the paper and that might be the case with other writers too. Realistically, nobody's going to spend all day locating and then scanning 12 off-line sources to send you for a 4-page paper before they can even start writing it. If you can revise your specs for fewer sources and allow links to off-line sources available online, you should let the company know immediately so that someone takes the paper.


It's really my informed opinion from having worked for a federal law enforcement agency and having a U.S. law degree.

For the 10th time, there is no federal "ED" with penal enforcement authority over academic honesty for anybody to call. As mre pointed out, even the state statutes referenced aren't penal statutes that could be enforced against anybody not subject to state education laws (like professors and other employees of state educational institutions).

Ok, cool. The skit really was just a reaction at WB's supposed "mountains of evidence" against Stu4. I was just trying to show that all of it's just big talk.


Well, it's an opinion nonetheless. No matter how "informed" you make it sound, another federal employee who actually takes pride in what he does and who doesn't work for an essay mill may find it peculiar that a complainant's business is the sale of homework to students and that agent may easily call an office at the ED (which stands for the U.S. Department of Education, fyi) to tell them about it.


I never said there was. >.< However, all universities have strict rules against submitting stuff bought from essay mills for credit. I'm sure that the ED would be happy to get them any and all information that it can on who the essay mills' patrons are. Like I said to mre, the skit was just an expression of my opinion regarding the utter emptiness of WB's threats against Stu4.

No kidding. What tipped you off? The fact that I referred to it as an informed opinion? I didn't "make it sound" like anything; I stated the basis of my informed opinion.


For the 11th time now, the DoE has no penal enforcement authority over plagiarism laws because they are state laws and the DoE is a federal agency.

Your suggestion that the DoE should be collecting information on individual students who cheat to furnish it to schools is no less stupid than suggesting that HHS should start collecting info on the eating habits of students at a particular school to furnish that info to the school's health department.

"Hello, Mr. School Physician. It's come to the attention of federal authorities that students on the 2nd floor of the Northside Dorm are eating way too much junk food. We think it's in the interest of national health for you to check it out."

That's exactly how stupid your little skit was.

Where's your proof, punk? You're just a tiny man hiding behind a big keyboard who obviously has a vested interest in trying to discredit me. Guess what-it doesn't work. You know why? You, undertow, and all similar scumbags can't PROVE a single one of the false claims that you make against me.


You've got THAT right.

EW_writer's involvement with American laws is limited to breaking them, as I have proven and he has admitted.


Wrong, as usual. As I have stated numerous times, and PROVEN by quoting the actual laws in at least 13 different states, the applicable laws absolutely do NOT make illegal the business operations of an example research provider. You can't prove otherwise, so stop making false statements of fact to deceptively further your long-ago-lost arguments.


LOL!


Idiot. Auditing, as far as I know, is largely random. Again, please stop highlighting your ignorance and communicating blatant falsehoods as fact.


Oh, it does (among many other violations of various laws), and stu4 is crapping himself worrying about ATW's possible actions against essaywriters.net. Stu4 knows all too well what evidence I have emailed to ATW.

EW_writer, I wonder, for example, how your filthy employer is going to explain to a US Federal judge how/why all of the payment receipts that funded the illegal acts against ATW came from the PayPal email address of "info@essaywriters.net" (with permanent records in PayPal's system). LOL! And that's only the tip of the "evidence iceberg," my friend!


Wrong. Each academic institution has its own set of "academic laws" that governs student conduct and punishes students for committing "academic crimes." The decision to cheat is solely that of the student. The provider of example research material is in no way responsible for the ethical decision-making processes of individual students.


Proven wrong by educated people, EW_writer tries to run backwards.

EW_writer, as for your baseless claim that my "mountains of evidence" is "just big talk," you're an ignorant fool. I already gave you a very small taste of the type of damning evidence at my disposal, which is now in the possession of Academic Thesis Writer. If they decide to move forward with a complaint in US Federal Court, Essay Writers is absolutely finished-period. essaywriters.net has no defense whatsoever for its illegal actions. Your employer's "defense" will be further complicated by the "mountains" of very real evidence of various law-breaking (in numerous countries, by the way) that the investigator has compiled against essaywriters.net (Universal Research).

You work for Academic Writer..you said so yourself. Nothing wrong with it, just do not lie about it ok? Why am I even acknowledging you on this forum? You lied...I do not converse with pathological liars. Everybody already knows what is plain to see. The emperor has no clothes. You are biased and you do not run this forum.

As for ATW suing anybody...that is not going to happen. A judge will laugh it out of court...because who cares? Please...for once in your life acknowledge you were wrong...do not say cliches such as "you are just a punk hiding behind a keyboard" do not say that everything damning against you is false because it is not. You work for ATW...it is as simple as that. Once you admit that you will begin to get some respect back. Until that happens, you will remain the joke of this board.

You notice everybody else is seeing what I am seeing now? You are embarrassing your employer.

LOL! Hey, liar, can I bother you to provide the quote in which I stated such? Hurry up-this is your chance to prove to everyone that you're not as big of a doosh as your continual, desperate LIES about me suggest.


You're a lawyer? Obviously, you're not a good one if you don't have even the faintest grasp of existing case law on the subject. You don't have a clue, actually. No surprise there. For your much-needed information, ATW's partner successfully sued a Pakistani company for engaging in LESS damaging acts than those in which essaywriters.net has engaged against ATW. Yeah, Honorable Freda Wolfson (judge in US District Court of New Jersey) "laughed," and then she awarded nearly $700,000 and ownership of all 555 of the Pakistani company's sites to ATW's partner.

In how many other ways would you like me to school you today, Mr. Lawyer?

And once again:


Why do you keep misunderstanding? I'm beginning to think that it's because I only have English as a second language. I never implied that the ED should do anything. I said that if given the opportunity, they'd be glad to tip universities off on academic fraud. I don't think you can get anyone in the ED to say otherwise. ^_^


You're priceless. ^_^


Blah blah blah.. hey Freelancer, this is the "big talk" that I was talking about. I was just showing how utterly ridiculous the idea of ATW taking EW to court is because WB here is just using the story to desperately try to scare clients off the way she always does.

You have a mental disturbance. You always have to be right. You always have to know everything. I am not talking about suing EW...I am talking about suing posters you waste of space. You ignorant f c k. You admitted you work for Academic Thesis by your actions and your statements in this thread. Everybody knows it and everybody can see it. If you do not want to admit it then that is fine, but do not come on here acting as though you are the arbiter of decency and truth. You are a rotten liar and you are lying for your rotten company ATW...I say ATW is rotten because they hire liars such as yourself. Now please go commit your deceit elsewhere.

You know nothing about everything. You probably have no real job do you? Freelance writing for students is not a real job...hate to break it to you. Neither is getting paid to post on message boards. You could not survive in the real world. You are an ignorant and delusional f c k. You are a deceitful weasel. You always have something to say, but when you say it you end up saying nothing. You are a voice box of horse s h i t. The sad thing about all of it is you have no idea. You are so delusional. What credentials do you have to talk about anything?? NONE! What experience in the real world do you have to talk about anything?? NONE!! You have selective amnesia on this board. You pick and choose quotes.

Where did I say you could not sue other companies? I am talking about suing a poster on a message board....you ignorant f u c k. Your mother should have smothered you when you were born. You are a busy body posing as a concerned citizen, but really posing as an agent for a website. You are a deceptive fool and people like you need to die in a fire. I hate deception and lies, and WB...you are full of both. I know you will not admit it...you will probably say: "Show me where I have lied!!" Without understanding, because you are so ignorant, that you can imply things. People can deduce things. People can figure things out. You can let the cat out of the bag. Everybody seems to know it but you. Please get your head out of your a s s and go the way of the Dodo bird. Do not try and argue with me you fraud.

LMAO, mre! You're just mad because I embarrassed you again. I have no official legal credentials, yet I schooled you on case law. "Whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaah, mre want binky!"


Yeah, that's what I though, lying b*ch.


Hey, retard, I never claimed to a a freelance writer for students. Buy a vowel, and then a clue, ignorant d*khead.

I type again, quite clearly:

What information that I have typed in this forum, about ANY company, do you claim is false?


Argue? There is no argument. I type the truth, and you type false accusations. C'mon, "lawyer," don't you want top comment on the case law precedent that you falsely claimed any judge would "laugh out of court"? Moron.


Ah, so now you're suggesting that I'm lying about the example evidence that I revealed? Are you denying that Essay Writers paid for illegal acts against Academic Thesis Writer? Ask your filthy employer, stu4, if I'm lying. LOL!


WOW! As a child, were you clubbed in the head like a fur seal, or is your selective memory-loss intentional? I'm leaning towards the latter, since I've left you with no other choice at this point, aside from openly admitting that you got owned.


Are you tired of getting spanked, Mr. Lawyer, or do you want more?

I don't really care to keep going 'round and 'round on this nonsense, but it's a bad comparison on your part. If what WB was referring to involved theft of intellectual property on websites, the corporate victim could conceivably do something about that federally because it's a federal issue. But it would still be a civil federal issue, not a criminal one. You refer to "Feds" as though pursuing a civil claim in federal court could trigger some kind of criminal investigation by the ED OIG or even a punitive IRS "audit" against what you consider to be "essay mills" that harm the U.S. education system, all based on the "raised eyebrows" of some federal court clerk receiving a summons and complaint filed by an "essay mill." What makes that and the way you refer to "Feds" in that context all so dopey is that you repeatedly say you're "quite sure" that it works that way or that it should but for "robots" in U.S. government.

Anyway, can I ask you something on your underlying implication about what I do for a living? You have repeatedly said directly and implied less directly that there is something sleazy or wrong with my profession and that the company's efforts to minimize plagiarism and other misuses of its product are insufficient, right? Could you tell me exactly what you do for a living? What kind of essay writing do you do and for what kinds of clients? Could you explain exactly how you make a living writing essays without violating the same ethical lines that you continually accuse others of violating? How do you make sure that none of your clients ever submits your work for credit? Thank you in advance.

Yes...retard....ANYBODY.....As in PERSON....retard!

How do I get spanked when you are constantly wrong and are so ignorant? Are you tired of losing you stupid fc k? Get a real job.

Freelance, BTW, I do apologize for the manner in which I have lowered myself in communicating with liars like mre (note that he can't prove ANY of his claims, yet insanely claims victory in the previous post), but I think that my recent experiments have proven exactly how meaningless it is for me to attempt to be civil. It does absolutely no good. In fact, they used it against me in various, underhanded ways. So, basically, there is no point in being civil with them. At this point, I am openly warning people, in advance, that if they post lies about me or defamatory claims about ANY company that I know to be untrue, the gloves are off. I won't attack anyone who doesn't attack me or post lies about innocent companies first. Shills for ripoff companies sign-up with this forum constantly, with the sole purpose of attacking me in an attempt to discredit the verifiable facts that I post in the best interests of the public.


LOL! Post proof, ANY proof, coward. I'm still waiting for you to quote something that I typed that is "wrong." I mean, if I'm "constantly wrong," a reference shouldn't be too difficult to provide, especially not for a qualified, responsible Officer of the Court such as yourself, right?

Once again, liar, what is your full name and in what state did you pass the Bar? Stop ignoring the question.


Funny, mre didn't even address this OWNAGE. Hmm, I wonder why.

Here's the issue, I'll let you judge for yourself whether or not it will hold water in a federal court since hey, I'm no expert.


From what I get, "illegal acts" refers to Stu4 allegedly doing a hatchet job Academic Thesis Writer.


If by your profession you mean writing for ATW (which I never realized was your fulltime job), it's as unethical as my writing for EW. I never claimed to be clean. Heck, anyone who writes other people's homework for money is engaging in an unethical practice no matter how hard they hide under the banner of "model papers".

Can I ask you a question? What "efforts" do you mean by:


Just curious. ^_^

Yes, I'm a fulltime freelance writer and I happen to like my job; Thesis Writer is just one company for whom I work as an independent contractor. Don't you think it's extremely hypocritical that you continually accuse other writers here of lacking ethics when you're engaged in the exact same practice that you pretend to criticize? The way you harp on the issue definitely implies that you disapprove of it and would never do it yourself. That would include your last question which has been answered repeatedly on this forum, as you already know full well, hence the stupid face with keyboard characters.

Like I said:


In fact, unlike people who hide under the banner of "we're just selling model papers," I actually openly admit that there is no way that I could prevent any of my clients from using the papers that they buy from me for credit. Can you?


Harp on what issue? The issue that I'm poiting out here is that ATW wouldn't dare take EW to court and WB's year-round threats are just that.. threats that attempt to make customers reading this message board scared of ordering papers from EW's client sites. It's fun bursting WB's bubble each time she attempts to blow another one. It's even more fun when she gets reprimanded for screwing up and suspended for days to let the issue of her latest failure die down. That's really all that's in this for me.

Oh and btw, my question about what ATW does to prevent their products from being submitted for credit was genuine. If what you meant by that was just the friendly reminder in ATW's terms of use, well, I think we both know how worthless that is.

Why is that, exactly? From what I understand, Academic Thesis Writers recently won a pretty big court case against another company that's publicly available on-line to read.

(If this takes us back to your theory of the court clerk "raising an eyebrow," contacting the Department of Education and generating an IRS "audit," please spare me.)

Just a question, does this forum have any moderators? I mean, I read so much disrespect on here that I forget what the actual discussion is about. The people throwing insults around are usually the same people over and over.

You're spared (and btw, again you misunderstand the whole idea behind the skit). ^_^ By writing the skit in the first place, I hedged out any possibility of passing clients buying WB's threats anyway.

Do you know that when I first got to this message board, WB was already screaming that EW's days were numbered? About two years and 50 grand in earnings later, the sky still isn't falling. That's why my countdown freaked the b**-h out so much. It was glaring evidence of her worthlessness.

EW_writer, to state that you are a lying b*stard would be far too lenient.


All you do is type lies and false accusations over, and over, and over again. You're a hollow, tiny man who commits and champions crime for peanuts. You're a joke, a representation of the blight of mankind. You disgust anyone who believes in honesty and sound business ethics.

Bottom line: it takes an utterly worthless, morally bankrupt scoundrel-on-the-take to criticize others' efforts to bring down corrupt, deceptive, illegal operations.

You're not the only one who's wondered that while briefly skimming the mountains of crap that spew out during the latest WB vs. whoever slanging match.

Joe: please take the time to investigate how virtually every confrontation starts. I post evidence concerning deceptive and/or illegal practices in order to protect the public, and I get attacked with lies and false accusations by people like EW_writer who have a vested interest in the crime continuing. (Heck, EW_writer just bragged about making 50k over the last two years by way of his employer's verifiably illegal practices.) If you want to blame somebody for the "mountains of crap" that appear in nearly every thread, please be fair about who's legitimately to blame.

Sent you a message :)

Humble, why the need to hide? It's an open forum, after all.

WB, please take the time to realise I'm capable of forming my own opinions. Cheers

I'm only as much a criminal as you are. However, you're a much better idiot than I will ever be. ^__^

LOL! Proof, please. I'm a "criminal" for exposing your filthy employer's illegal activities?

Just out of curiosity, what's your record for the most lies published online in one day?


Prove it. Let's debate the issues at the heart of matter. You have a problem with my beliefs? Why don't you start a new thread and address me head-on, like a MAN, instead of hurling nothing but false accusations and lies? You won't, because you know that I will dismantle you. (I can't wait for your quirky, cowardly excuse as to why you won't step up to the plate.)

It means we're both not criminals, stupid. Writing for EW doesn't make me or any other of their writers a criminal.


Oh c'mon. Anybody who takes the time to skim through threads where we clashed would clearly see who "dismantles" who. In fact, some of the direct clients that I've gotten from this message board initially took interest in my skills after seeing how well I "dismantle" you.

As I predicted . . . coward.

You stated as FACT that "all students who buy papers cheat." I proved you to be a liar by posting the COURT EVIDENCE from the Boston University case, which highlights the fact that 7 out of 8 BU students who bought papers referenced them properly. Go ahead-try to deny it, spinner.

You're a coward. Pick any issue at-hand, open a new thread, and start a debate with me. Are you THAT spineless?

You must really be nuts to say that my statement is an excuse.


and by doing so fell into my trap of proving that students who buy from companies that are physically based in America are in greater danger of getting caught. Then you disappeared to let the issue die down. ^_^

Ah, so after I crushed your initial claim that "all students who buy papers use them to cheat" (and, by extension, they "get what they deserve" when they get conned and ripped-off by your filthy employer), you lie and expect people to believe that it was all part of your "trap"? LMAO! No matter-I proceeded to defeat your follow-up claims/excuses, as well. I disappeared? Sure. Prove it, LIAR. Post the link.

I don't need to post a link. The thread is open for all to see (wanna call this another excuse? :p)

As I continue to prove with ease, EW_writer is a lying doosh who can't substantiate any of the calculated lies that he posts about me.


Coward. You insanely brag that you defeated me in the debate, yet you don't have the balls to post a link to the thread? The two don't mesh. You're spineless.