Experience of a number of companies

I decided to spread my risk and ordered 'essays' from 3 sources:
**********
UKEssays
MadPapers

Also, I signed up to an online plagiarism / style checking service to validate the materials produced.

Results
******* delivered on time and to the quality ordered
Ukessays were c.50% reliable - they managed to (more or less) sort the issues with one essay produced, but the final one was originally rubbish, then with a 'rewrite' from a different author was mostly plagiarised from web sources.

MadPapers was completely random, again I had to have extensive rewrites and was still not satisfied at the end.

As I was only using the material for reference, the plagiarism wasn't damaging, but was clearly not what they promised.

Overall, my experience was slightly better than I expected, but I would probably not use at least two of the providers again.

People who believe s-i* like this deserve to be scammed. I am not for any of the companies identified above, but unless the poster can provide order numbers and the actual outputs (they were, after all, for reference purposes only), there's no reason for anyone to think that anything he posted is true. ^___^

I have no intention of posting information that would allow you or others to identify me - I posted merely to pass on my experience. If you don't want to believe me, then fine. Not quite sure in what way it is that you think that I'm trying to scam anyone - would it help if I remove the neutral reference to one of the companies?

If the rules here are made so onerous that no-one is able to post anything remotely sensible, then this site will descend even further into its inward looking narcissism. Quite frankly, the repeated bad language and personal attacks more or less negate any useful function that the site has.

I shan't be entering into debate on this.

I wish you all well and hope that your endeavours are successful.

I identify u by nickname.

Order 69807953

What does that prove? That can be faked as well. Everything can be faked. This forum actually serves no purpose because of the posting restrictions...so who cares?

If ('Everything can be faked' = TRUE) then having more restrictions or no restrictions at all would not make a difference, would it.

It's true that almost everything can be faked, but some members like you can quickly notice BS and inform/warn others who are less experienced or perceptive.

In this case, it's clear for experienced members that the topic starter is a shill, as noticed by EW_writer ;). Order ID may give some idea if the order is likely to exist or not (most order ids are unique and are based on some semi-unique mathematical formula), but it is certainly not bullet-proof.

True...I just wish there were no DND list. I wanted to see which company the original poster was pimping. I do not know the legal representation the forum has, but whoever it is must be remedial. There are no civil lawsuit problems with this forum. I do not understand why the owners are so terrified of the very elements that they are trying to warn people about.

It is like saying "pe**philes are bad and there are some in this playground right now along with some normal people that are great for your kids...but I cannot tell you which ones are p**ophiles because they will threaten to sue me for defamation (although I have unequivocal proof of their pedophilia)"

Does that make sense? I say delete the DND list and stop sheltering these companies. If there is a genuine problem then the mod should fix it, but do not limit the speech on this forum...it is counterproductive. If all of the posters see this original poster as a shill, then they will post as much and any reader of the forum can weigh the evidence. Do not limit speech.

It was the company made of animal teeth and tusks. ^___^ The company has tons of complaints from various posters who DID provide order numbers. Out comes this loser (imogen) who thinks that posting phantom experience can undo the terrible image that the company has already developed here. Tsk tsk... ^_______^

Ok...yeah...that company sucks.

In such a case, I guess mods should leave the name for 24 hrs as a reference.


They aren't likely to be terrified. They probably don't want to waste time and resources on responding to subpoenas or to hosting companies that may bother them because some other company complains about this or that allegedly false statement.


Some posters mentioned the DND list may indicate "something relevant." If you think about it - what kind of websites would not like to be discussed here?

From my experience, there is only one decent company in the entire industry and that company is not on the DND list.

I see what ya did there Major.

There are more than one decent company in this industry (considering there are so many "essay services" available online). And they want to hear about their clients' problems (that's why they want to be discussed here). If they don't want to hear what is wrong or what could be improved, it may indicate they are happy where they are.

PS. I think half of the websites listed on the DND list are there for.. marketing purposes (ie. nobody has a chance to hear about them so it's better to be listed there than nowhere ;).

Possibly. Send me a message and let me know which outfit you are with. I had my own business back in 1999. There were only a handful of companies at that point.

I know a several from personal experience that are on that list because they have cheated their writers or customers, but naturally they do not want any of that discussed on here.

The writing company must provide complete satisfaction. Never partial, never full satisfaction after rewrites. Either they get it right the first time, or the client can demand a refund. Forget the revisions because the papers barely improve after that, if at all. It is better to just start a chargeback claim to at least, help you get part of your money back.

@Cite: Are you serious? Revisions are a fact of life in this business. Either the customer screws up the instructions, or the writer misunderstands them, and the paper needs revised.

Someone has given this idiot carte blanche to give irresponsible, dead-wrong advice on this forum, not to mention his advocating illegal and unethical practices. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with the mods and site owners.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this forum, for at least two very specific reasons:

1. The transaction is governed by the policies and/or TOS published on the provider's website. Legitimate essay companies and writers with websites specify that mistakes are handled as free revisions and that those revisions will be delivered promptly; some of them also specify a time period. In fact, I defy you to show us any legitimate essay company that promises a full "refund" if one of their essays needs a revision. A legitimate and experienced essay provider makes mistakes only very rarely; but it does happen sometimes. Legitimate providers always respond immediately to notice of a mistake and turn around an appropriate revision ASAP.

2. Even without any specific revision policy outlined in the TOS and/or elsewhere on a website, it is a standard principle of all contracts for services that the seller or vendor has a right to cure a mistake, irrespective of the industry. That means if you pay someone to paint your house and he forgets to do one room or closet, you're not entitled to dispute the payment, cancel your check, or sue him for a "refund" on the entire job. The same is true if you take your car to a mechanic and he doesn't quite fix the problem (or every problem that you listed) on the first try. In every case, the seller or service provider is obligated to cure the mistake in timely fashion on notice of the problem. The same is true for essay providers.

There are two major exceptions:

1. If there's a specific agreement between the parties that the project must be completed without any mistakes by a specific date certain and that "time is of the essence," then, that would be a specific agreement notwithstanding the general policies posted in the TOS and/or on the website. However, it would be up to the essay company or writer to accept that project under those terms, and most already-busy writers just won't do it. Yes, academic projects all have deadlines on the client's end; but that doesn't mean that a client who procrastinates so long that the due date for the writer is also the client's actual due date gets to make that the writer's problem. Clients should always add some time in between the writer's deadline and the client's actual deadline, precisely in case there's some unavoidable delay or mistake. If clients wait until the day before a project is due to place the order and the essay company makes a mistake that justifies a free revision, that's the client's fault for waiting too long to order the essay and the client's problem, not the writer's.

2. If the essay company violates its own guarantees and warranties, the client doesn't have to allow a cure. One example would be where the company website guarantees original writing without plagiarism; because the client could rightfully pursue a full refund for any project containing plagiarized content. Be advised that in my experience writing for essay companies, that doesn't mean companies will necessarily honor that, because they typically handle those kinds of complaints as ordinary "revisions" and they don't offer refunds in those situations, either. Another example would be where the company guarantees that all of their writers are NES and that it doesn't use any ESL writers; but the essay provided displays obvious clues of ESL writing. The client may choose to take a free revision, but would be within his rights to demand a refund, iinstead.

I paid a visit to madpapers.com and discovered something refreshing for a change. It is a company that honors academic integrity and does not write the papers for the students. Even their homework help section does not do the work for the student but merely guides them towards proper learning and solution development. The company might have started out as an academic writing company but has definitely evolved from that service into a far more qualified student assistance / consultation company that actually helps the students learn, instead of passing a course by passing the work onto paid writers. It is an admirable and commendable website as far as I am concerned because it adheres to academic integrity. This is one company that can function worldwide and never have to worry about being flagged as a scam site. Maybe it started out as one, but it most certainly isn't one now. Students seeking academic help, rather than having someone do their academic work for them will do well to visit this site to get on the right path towards learning and paper development.