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Are rewrites frequent after an essay is completed?


VeronicaM  6 | 34  
Nov 04, 2010 | #1
For those who write for essay companies, I was wondering how frequently does your work come back for rewrites?

What percentage of all completed projects come back for rewrites? And are the rewrites usually hard to do?
pheelyks  
Nov 04, 2010 | #2
The majority of rewrite requests I receive are when customers had expectations that they did not include in their original descriptions. These rewrite requests are incredibly easy to handle--they are not fulfilled. Once in a great while I actually screw up and fail to meet some specific detail in their instructions, and then of course they get a rewrite.

A lot of customers also request rewrites a week or more after they received their order, usually with comments like, "my instructor told me to change x, y, and z...". These rewrite requests are also not fulfilled, and the customer is informed that they are guilt of plagiarism.
OP VeronicaM  6 | 34  
Nov 04, 2010 | #3
So, I guess that you don't receive too many rewrite requests?
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Nov 04, 2010 | #4
some companies are better about rewrites than others. I don't mind doing them for half or even free, if I misunderstand the original instructions-- it happens occasionally. however, a lot of clients just want free pages. quality companies know when to say "no" to pushy, demanding customers, and are thus able to support and help their writers.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Nov 05, 2010 | #5
Most of the times it's up to the writer to decide if a revision (free or paid) is justifiable or not.
pheelyks  
Nov 05, 2010 | #6
and if it ins't, you're working for a s-i*ty paper composition company.
jwolfe2  5 | 63  
Nov 05, 2010 | #7
i hate getting sent stuff back from a nit picking teacher who feels it is her job to find fault in everything to help the student improve. customers who don't communicate the instructions properly and then complain drive me insane too. they usually get the cold shoulder.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 05, 2010 | #8
Rewrite PaperIf we screw up, we fix it for free. When you write about 1,000 papers a year, you make a few mistakes once in a while. I once wrote a really good 15-pg paper for a client but it was on the wrong topic. Had to write it all over again from scratch. He was eventually able to use both of them and paid me for them both, which was very decent of him because I'd never have known if he hadn't told me. If you screw up in the way you ordered it, we will do our best to fix it, but it's the same as when you decide you'd like another few pages added after the fact: no problem, but you pay for it, obviously.

I once had a business client ask me for a piece of work on CRM stuff. He sent me a white paper on a similar topic full of his notes where he wanted me to do it differently, etc. About a week after it was done we were talking on the phone and he said something that caused me to respond that if he wanted that piece for the purpose he just explained (for the first time), he needed an entirely different piece of writing. He expected me to redo it and I couldn't get him to understand that it was exactly the same as ordering a meal, eating it, and then telling the chef that you're a vegan and expecting him to re-cook an entire meal because the first one wasn't vegan. That's why he's no longer a client.

Basically, with company papers, we get an automatic rewrite notice on our calendar of pending papers anytime the customer submits a rewrite request. If it's a legit request and we forgot something that was in the order or we made some other mistake, we fix it ASAP and submit it to the system. However, that's the case only about 10-20% of the time. Usually, customers think "rewrite" means they can ask us to "fix" stuff when they change their minds about the original order, or when they forgot to include it in the order, or when they chose to violate company TOS and submit the paper for credit and then expect us to "fix" anything pointed out by their professors because they only got an A- or a B or whatever. Sometimes, they ask for rewrites because they say it sounds "too good" and is above their academic level. If you specify in your order that you need a high school freshman level paper (etc), we do try to accommodate, but otherwise, we can't delete those rewrite requests fast enough. Personally, I find that it takes me longer to write in simpler language than to just write stuff the way it comes out of my mind.
rustyironchains  12 | 696 ☆☆  
Nov 05, 2010 | #9
Personally, I find that it takes me longer to write in simpler language than to just write stuff the way it comes out of my mind

roflmao

. customers who don't communicate the instructions properly and then complain drive me insane

right!
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 05, 2010 | #10
roflmao

Stop bragging.

Obviously, writing at a high school freshman level is perfectly natural to you.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Oct 29, 2017 | #11
If the client gave the correct instructions from the onset and communications between the writer and client are constant as the paper progresses, rewrites could actually be non-existent for the most proficient writers such as myself. The few times that I actually had to do a rewrite were all based on client error. Wrong instructions, wrong sources, additional information, professor observations, these are all causes for rewrites that are never writer caused. Let me clarify, these are rewrites that are requested of writers of the non-ESL variety. Those writers who can barely string a coherent sentence together then expect to get paid for their work are the ones who practically live on rewrites and revisions because of errors in the paper that they caused themselves. It is because of the high level of ENL writers in the field that the scam companies have to make up complaints in order to deduct payments from perfect essays and research papers. In my case, I think I only did a rewrite about 5 times for the duration of my academic writing career. All at the behest of the client who steered me down the wrong path to begin with.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jan 29, 2019 | #12
If a writer is properly informed by the student, draft copies are sent to the client as the work progresses, and communications between the student and his writer remains constant throughout the writing process, I find that revision requests are totally eliminated.

Since my company assures students of Zero revision possibilities, my team ensures that the client and the writer are always in direct communication and that any question a student has about the current draft of his order are immediately addressed. If additional work-time will be required to complete the paper due to the required changes, then those arrangements are made beforehand.

As the paper is cleaned up every step of the way, the students find satisfaction in the developing content of the paper and also finds that working closely with the writer creates a clearer sense of communication, resulting in a perfect paper being turned in. No revisions required. Only clients who are uncooperative end up asking for revisions from my writers and those, are few and far between.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 29, 2019 | #13
If a writer is properly informed by the student, draft copies are sent to the client as the work progresses, and communications between the student and his writer remains constant throughout the writing process,

Most projects shorter than 10 pages can be (and very often are) completed at a very high level in a single sitting by a good, experienced writer. Generally, it's only students and very inexperienced writers who aren't yet very good at what they do who actually need to produce multiple "drafts" over several days on a typical project. As company writers, we would often take projects not due for a week and just write them the day before they were due or even earlier on the same day they were due. Further, regardless of when we write projects, those of us who have written thousands of them usually don't need to write multiple "drafts" of typical projects: we just write them in one sitting, let them sit for a while, and then do a "cold" proofread to catch any mistakes.

When your writers take projects today that aren't due for 10 days, how do you send draft copies to clients anytime before the writer chooses to sit down write the project on the 9th day if that's where the writer chose to put it on his work calendar?

If a customer asks for a draft on Day 2 or Day 7 for a project due in 10 days, what do you do when the writer responds (perfectly appropriately) that the project isn't due for another several days and simply reassures the customer (and/or you) that after writing thousands of similar projects, he really doesn't need to write "drafts" the way students and relatively inexperienced writers do?

In the event one of your writers does provide an interim draft that (so far) is perfectly consistent with the original project specs, what do you do when the customer responds that he'd like the project to have a different focus than (let's say) the first half that's already been completed as per spec or (let's say) wants to "reduce" one of the already-completed sections and use more space for a yet-to-be-written section? How do you handle that situation in a manner that satisfies the customer without being unfair to the writer whose draft is already perfectly consistent with the original specs?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 29, 2019 | #14
Additionally, if you promise your clients drafts, what happens when a writer chooses to bang out a project the same day he takes it off the assignment board even though it's not actually due for a week or more, as sometimes happens, especially during slow periods? What do you tell the client if the completed project satisfies the original specs but he says he'd have asked for various changes if he'd seen an interim draft?

As far as the original topic of this thread goes:

For those who write for essay companies, I was wondering how frequently does your work come back for rewrites?What percentage of all completed projects come back for rewrites?

As an essay-company writer, I got maybe 1 rewrite request for every 10 projects; of those, fewer than maybe a quarter of them were legitimate. So, maybe 1 legit request in about 40 projects. By "legit" I mean that there was really something in the original specs that wasn't fully satisfied. Typical illegitimate requests included things like asking for it to be rewritten at a lower level when the specs said nothing besides "Master Level" or "Senior Undergraduate Level"; asking to focus more (or less) on some specific element when no such focus was included in the original specs; and asking to include some direct quotes when that wasn't part of the original specs. Sometimes, we got absolutely ludicrous rewrite requests, such as demanding to know who "ibid" is and why "he" was cited in the text but not listed on the reference page. (I'm not kidding, either; it happened a few times.) Some other silly requests involved ongoing projects, such as where a college Composition course had a 4-page assignment in Week 1, followed by a revision of that same project in Week 2 that required incorporating a new class reading into the original project. Sometimes, you actually have to explain to clients that the only thing they're entitled to receive (at least without paying for more) is whatever they actually ordered originally and not continued revisions and additions to that completed project throughout the course.

And are the rewrites usually hard to do?

Legit rewrite requests would typically be for things like accidentally providing references in APA when MLA or some other style was mentioned in the specs or forgetting to include an abstract that was mentioned in the original specs. Most legit rewrite requests involved things that could be fixed quite easily. Other times, a rewrite request might not be "difficult" but required a full rewrite, such as where we accidentally wrote 2 pages on each of 4 questions for an 8-page project because we missed the part of the specs that said to pick ONE question, or vice-versa, where we wrote all 8 pages on 1 question but the specs actually said to address the questions in 2 pages each. Generally, rewrite requests aren't any more difficult than the original project; they might just double the time involved for the project.

The same things can happen with private clients, but it's much less likely to get illegitimate rewrite requests, simply because many more of our customers are regulars rather than first-time clients who have no idea what makes a request illegitimate. Regular clients simply ask "How much to add a section on alternate approaches to the same issue?" or "How much to annotate the bibliography?" Probably the worst experience I ever had with a rewrite request was where I accidentally used the textbook chapters provided for an earlier project instead of the chapters provided for the newer project. It was very difficult to find ways to connect the reading to the essay prompt, but I did my best to do that. Then, the client told me I'd used the wrong book and he was totally right, because he'd sent me chapters from a totally different book for that project. Obviously, I had no choice but to rewrite the entire project using the right book.
lmmortal  2 | 19   Student
Feb 01, 2019 | #15
Yep, I knew ibid was a thing, totally, right guys, haha... christ dammit.
Study Review  - | 254  
Apr 18, 2019 | #16
I would say to that rewriting essays after having composed them is primarily due to miscommunication between the client and the writer. I have heard of instances wherein writers were tasked to rewrite because of misunderstanding the instructions and/or not following through with what is actually being demanded for. Then again, this does make me wonder the extent to which the task at hand is the fault of the writer or the client. I find that sometimes writers who fail at a task was also at fault because of taking in responsibility for a task without asking for clarification regarding the instructions, desired content and tone of the essay, etc. I, personally, have been asked once to rewrite an essay because I had overlooked a fraction of the instructions and used a different textbook instead of the one being provided. When this happens, I just suck it up and own up to my own mistakes.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Mar 19, 2020 | #17
I do not offer a revision policy to clients. That is based on two reasons. The first reason, is that the student should be made to understand that all pertinent information for the completion of the paper must be submitted once the agreement to hire a writer from my staff is completed. If they do not give the complete information then they are out of luck. Rather than giving the writer a tough time with revisions, I simply refund the client a portion of the order immediately. The refund reflects the effort of the writer to complete the paper and the time it took for me to assign the paper to a writer of the expertise required by the client. It's their tough luck if they miss their deadline. It wasn't the writer's fault. The second, is that the paper passes through several draft versions which are submitted to the client. There are a total of 3 drafts. The client needs to approve each draft propr to the submission of the final copy. Hence, there should not be any reason for the client to ask for a revision. The same refund policy applies should the client insist on a revision of the paper, even though drafts were previously submitted for approval.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Apr 11, 2020 | #18
Last week, I had the first legitimate request for a free revision in a very long time. It was a simple undergraduate project requiring me to analyze an article's use of the standard rhetorical tools (logos, pathos, and ethos), which is something I've done 100+ times before. A few hours after I delivered what I thought was a perfect essay, the client emailed thanking me for the project but pointing out that the original specs had asked for each rhetorical approach to be discussed in its own section instead of in a more-integrated way addressing the author's various arguments in the order that they appeared in the article. The client was so nice about it that she didn't even ask me for a revision; instead, she said she was going to have to rewrite it herself and that she would be more clear about her directions in the future. I checked the original specs and it turned out that she was 100% right: the instructions were to discuss each rhetorical approach in a separate section. Her actual deadline was later the same night, so I dropped what I was doing and sent her a completely revised essay within two hours.




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