PaperDue and A&B termpapers - any feedback/experience please? Legit?

So I'm currently considering these two sites -paperdue.com/ (I think they used to be madpapers) and abtermpapers.com/. I've looked them up on whois and both sites appear to have been registered for years. I've had some email communication with the latter and they seem genuine and a native English speaker.

They both seem legit but I just thought I would put the call out there to see if anyone else has any actual experience of them? Any fellow students who have used them and can provide some feedback on how the experience was? Whether their writing is well-researched, are they responsive to emails, and do they meet deadlines?

Many thanks in advance.

If you search by 'paperdue' here you'll get some results, but mostly related to paperduenow.com - are these the same services (most likely not)? It's a little confusing why the name would be changed, but maybe you have more information by now to share.

For what it's worth, I can't speak to PaperDue but A&B Term Papers operated by Mark Milson scammed me out of $400 several years ago.

Thanks, Professor. That's what this forum is supposed to be for.

It was almost 18 years ago but I don't forget. You're welcome.

$400 at 5% annual interest rate is $400+$360=$760 today ;)

I appreciate the feedback. I'm going to take the lack of virulent responses as a semi-positive sign!

Major - I was really struggling with the search engine function but I read a tip on another post and I think that's improved my understanding of how it works tremendously. I'll do some more research in to paperdue versus paperduenow to check whether it's the same thing. There is so much negativity on this site - I'm hoping that no one jumping in with evil stories of paperdue is hopefully a good sign.

PV - that is terrible. Yes this is the one operated by Mark Milson although I'm not sure whether it was him I was corresponding with. What happened exactly?

I'm definitely not interested in any service that rips off the small minority of decent writers that are around doing this kind of work.

paperdue = American
paperduenow = Ukrainian

w2b you've saved me a bit of effort - thanks!

Re: PV - that is terrible. Yes this is the one operated by Mark Milson although I'm not sure whether it was him I was corresponding with. What happened exactly?

I'm distraught about my wife but I'll share this. Mark received a chargeback from a dissatisfied client (no specificity) and decided to charge me for the amount he paid me PLUS what the client paid him. I was on vacation with my family at the time, and had to cut it short by 3 days because of this. I hope I meet him someday in person so we can exchange opinions and I can share my fist with his face. That's all I have to say.

I dream of finding and punching so many low lifes on the owner/manager side of this industry, I've lost track of them all. That's easy to do, since most of them have 4 or 5 different names.

"Re: PV - that is terrible. Yes this is the one operated by Mark although I'm not sure whether it was him I was corresponding with. What happened exactly?

I'm distraught about my wife but I'll share this. Mark received a chargeback from a dissatisfied client (no specificity) and decided to charge me for the amount he paid me PLUS what the client paid him. I was on vacation with my family at the time, and had to cut it short by 3 days because of this. I hope I meet him someday in person so we can exchange opinions and I can share my fist with his face. That's all I have to say"

I run an American small business (one of the few remaining in this industry). I have been in this business for over 19 years. When I started this small business I only had 6 writers and 2 of them are actually still with me. Until this past June I had 3 of my original writers from 1996 but one died from lung cancer. She was a wonderful woman who used to send me home made fudge every year around the holidays that I will miss this year and for years to come.

Anyway, what ProfessorVerb failed to mention is why he was charged back. The ONLY reason why I would ever not pay a writer is for BLATANT cases of plagiarism. I care about my clients and my writers and to the best of my ability always deliver what is promised to them. Which is why writers who plagiarize are deducted pay and I typically never use them again. My name is Mark M., has been 19 years ago and still is. What is your name "Professor Verb" I'm sure that you will not respond or make up a phony name. If you do reply with specifics concerning the situation in which you are referring; I'm sure I'll remember who you are and we can gladly discuss the disappointment you are to your family and why you cut your vacation short.

I looked you up and you also replied to a post "the $100,000 academic writer - can be done?"
You replied "yes"
"Yes, except for the two liquor stores I knocked over and my royalties from a cameo appearance in "Professor Verb: Doctor of Love.""

And "The closest I've come is $80,000 and that's with three writers working for me part-time. Too much work for the bucks, but that was 10 years ago. Today, the sky is the limit -- no project is too large -- no fee is too large"

Actually I feel that this business has gotten much more difficult than it was over 10 years ago with all these foreign competitors saturating the market. And I don't need someone like you making unsubstantiated claims about my business, which is run with honestly.

So you make about 80K a year and you cut your family vacation short 3 days because you claim that you did not get paid for assignments from me. Again, I am a small business owner. I don't make that much money either in this business and I also have another job on the side. My health and my family are the most important things in the world to me. The time spent with my family is absolutely priceless. If you really cut your vacation short 3 days over term papers than I have a Noun for you ProfessorVerb and that Noun is Loser.

You said that you have nothing more to say, however if you do wish to meet me, my e-mail address and all contact information has not changed once in 19 years. Please feel free to contact me and I will gladly let your fist meet my face. I actually have two fists maybe your face (if you have one) would like to meet them as well.

Charging a writer an amount you got paid from the client is not fair.

And yes writer shouldn't get a dime if the work is even 11% plagiarized!

lol

Don't pay him, and maybe warn him a few times, and then fire him. When you start fining writers, you're out of line.

And here's a clue: the next time you go internet warrior in such an embarrassingly old-school way to protest your innocence, try denying, or ffs even addressing, the main accusation being made against you.

TheEssays0nline = SCAMMER

I do agree that it was probably about 18 years ago, because I hardly remember it. If it happened today I actually would probably handle the situation differently. However I am 100% sure that the paper was highly plagiarized. I put a great deal of value in the work that all my writers do and the case must be highly egregious in order for me even deduct a penny from a writer's pay. I am not a big fish in this business (far from it). But I do take what little money that I make and distribute over $1,500 in bonuses to my writers for the holiday season. I know that I am either the only one or one of the few who does that.


I have to respectfully disagree. You have to view these things on a case by case basis and be fair to both the writer and the customer. In most cases I would still pay the writer 100%. Many things will come up on plagiarism software that aren't necessarily plagiarism at all. So you need to look past just having a certain %. sometimes it's difficult to balance what is fair to the writer and to the client but one must make every attempt to do this. Neither my writers or my customers very rarely complain about how things are handled.

One more thing and then I'm done for now so that I can spend some time with my family
If a writer either egregiously plagiarizes by more than 50% OR fails to do an assignment after he confirms/commits to having it done and a valued customer who puts his faith and trust in you and your services depends on having an original paper by his or her due date. What do you do? One option, which just might be the case here is to pay another one of your trusted writers to complete the project as an urgent rush order. I know that my writers are often paid double (sometimes more) for such requests.

Do you
A: Screw the customer and not deliver as promised
B: Pay both writers for completing the project (even though one screwed you over)
C: Take a loss on the project by paying a writer double (even though you are paying the writer more than the client is paying you)

D: Make the writer who egregiously screwed you over pay the difference for what you paid the other writer.

In my opinion everything should be on a case by case basis. If a writer screws up once after being with me for many years of course I'm not going to penalize him/her much. If a writer who has not been with me long is deliberately screwing me over, I will do what's in the best interest of my customer and the writer's best interest would come last.

Either way I know that the customer in every case with me gets what he/she orders and the writer is treated fairly.

Excuses aside, you seem to be admitting that you not only didn't pay your writer, but also fined him. Is that right?

Bump. That's right-- I'm stirring the pot. I want to see this old-school throw-down! Fifty bucks on Verb!

A whois lookup does not prove anything. These are paid services that do not give out the actual location of the company, the client experience, and the kind of writers they have. Whois used to be able to serve a purpose when investigating the companies. However, the amount of pinging done these days to mask the actual location of the server or company really made this a totally unreliable way of proving the location of a company. Which means, you cannot be sure of the quality of work as well.

The url for Paper Due comes back with a note that it is Help in Development Mode. I have no idea what that means. I am guessing it relates to some sort of site redevelopment though. A&B Term papers on the other hand, is still quite active and is trying to convince their site visitors that their writers are as intelligent, if not more intelligent that Albert Einstein. If you fall for that con, then you can expect to get what you deserve. I do not understand how an internet service provider like AOL, a highly respected name in the business, can allow this company to remain in a service relationship with them. I guess that is what happens when the company does not do a background check on the company hiring their services. So beware. It is up to the student to protect himself in this case.