Professays or HonestEssays?

I have been let down twice now and I desperately need help. Does anyone have a comment about professays.com or honestessays?

Thanks.

What are your subjects?

1. Synthesizing Sources for an Argument on a cultural or global issue;

2. Rhetorical strategies with well reasoned arguments that articulate a claim;

3. I will need outlines for the above two; and

4. A research paper of Methylene Chloride that includes a 10-12 Power Point presentation.

Thanks for your reply.

Serene, why do you and/or others always seem to ask people what their subjects are? I don't see how that could possibly be used for ANY purpose other than for you to determine if you can personally write the paper(s).

This is yet another reason why recommendations and job requests/offers are NOT allowed.


Fraud x2

Professays.com is a Ukrainian site, but the owner not only LIES about being American, he/she has the nerve to bash OTHER scam sites on the site's "About Us" page:

"There are plenty of similar services on the market developed in Pakistan, India, Russia, and Eastern Europe. They pay about $2 per page to local writers and offer $9 per page to the customers but grammar and quality of these essays are awful. Be careful! Our company employs professional American writers . . . ."

WHOIS for Professays.com:

PROFESSAYS
43 Sverdlova str. apt. 27
Melitopol', 72312
Ukraine

Thanks for confirming my feelings about them. I just wish I knew where to turn and do realize that this site is not for finding good, only confirming bad.

You did not mention Honestessay, does this mean there isn't anything bad to say about them?

I typed "Fraud x2." Honestessay

OK. Thanks.

Sparks I am not good at Chemistry. I will help you with outlines. Post more details about the requirements.

Havent heard about professays.

Though I have heard about honestessays, but wouldnt like to comment anything here as recommendations are not allowed ! Sorry !

I have already provided evidence-in this thread and others-that both sites are fraudulent.

Folks,

Greetings!

We are Honest Essays and we are a very new company based out of India. Most of our writers are from India. We are not writing here to provoke someone or to invite indictments, we are here to strongly oppose and challenge the accusations against us.

We have been writing for some very trusted names in this business, one of them being ********* itself, which we can provide a valid proof of.

We can challenge anyone on this forum or outside of it to prove if we have ever cheated anyone out of a single dollar. We have been extremely fair in our dealings and do not intend to swindle anyone because it is against our conscience to cheat. We live for our reputation. We are proud of the fact that we have enough satisfied customers who are thankful to us and this is what keeps us going. We are proud to satisfy several people across the globe. We are proud to say that at least 80 percent of the papers we have written have been graded "A minus" or above.

To sum it up, it is not fair for ANYONE to malign us by spreading derogatory rumors about us and people would do better if they focussed on their jobs instead of disparaging others.

Cheers.

Wow.. you were able to shut her up. ^_^ Good job!

So, *********, does take ESL help. How the mighty fall!!!

Let's see that "proof" of yours. The only acceptable proof is your writer username. I will then ask ET to verify your claim.

The only thing that is proven is that you blatantly stole ET's logo, with zero regard for copyright law or the DMCA, and reproduced that logo on your site for purposes of commercial deception. That is ILLEGAL, my friend. You've done the same to several other companies. Good job on the "fair" and "reputation" fronts.


Either you are completely lying, or you somehow convince all of your "clients" to report back to you with their grade. So, which is it? Either way, you have just admitted-at the very least-to breaking American law.


One in each continent, perhaps? (This is how an unqualified, ESL writer's inability to use words properly-and in proper context-can cause huge problems for native English-speaking customers. A qualified, ESL writer would not make such embarrassing mistakes.)

too many frauds on essay websites

why do you support ********* so much as in, you are not ready to listen against anything about ET ....whenever someone try to say anything negative about their service you think its a fake complaint or someones malign the companies image. you are ready to counter attack n usually get wild, as in no ones got a right to say anything bad about them..

Gini, please take your agenda-based negativity and utterly useless commentary elsewhere. I will engage in no fighting in this or any other threads. Unless you have EVIDENCE to prove that the site is fraudulent, please keep your baseless, biased speculation to yourself.

agenda is clear ....wb you dont have any work with you..whole day you can be seen commenting on this site and fighting , arguing with pewople...over ********* or your the only person whose always complaining about people to the moderator as if mod is hear to listen to you when you are frustated..your the only person who keeps on dictating people about rules and regulation.....what do you intend to do in life ..just tell me that..

please people other wb prove me if i am wrong......soon wb will go wild coz of my comment...

other 'than'

Spell check is your friend.

Your one-way insults serve no purpose.

For the last time: if you have evidence to show that the company is fraudulent or employs any type of dishonest business model, I invite you to post it. If you don't (and we both KNOW that you don't), stop the propaganda.

Please leave. Again, I will not entertain your useless commentary that contributes absolutely nothing of value to this forum and continues to take threads off-topic.

i ve no friends out here ...i used this forum to know about the legit companies for my coursework....i am not a writer...i am looking here for a legit site......but i learnt that in this forum people have different agenda.....commercial agenda like you...you ve argued unnecessarily in every thread....baseless conversation....fighting with people....insulting people by telling them they dont know anyth abt english ...as if your are the only one who knows english out here....well i should tell you ppl who dont know english hire ppl like you to do their piece work which is i guess your profession and you abuse n insult them in return ...

your a funny lady.....n a frustated 1....
cheers
please no more conversation with you....i think i ve proved what i wanted to...

Funny-only you are engaging in insults and baseless accusations.


That you have, my friend. You're in serious need of writing assistance. That is a FACT.

Folks, we are not pleased to spill the beans about it, but people must understand that no one can tolerate baseless and blatant accusations.

I had posted here to challenge the accusations against us and I have not got a PROOF that we are dishonest people or we swindle customers, instead I ahve more questions to answer. This is a classic deception technique she used when she runs out of words and does not have anything to PROVE.

And yes, one can still find mistakes in my post. Passion for something is good, but being pompous and grandiloquent about it is equally turning off.

Grandiloquent oratory is good to increase traffic though. For all of you who are new here, WB is either the owner of ET or is very closely related to the owners, which is why it makes perfect sense for her to belittle all the other service providers.

Cheers.

Proof? Nope. Please stop posting baseless, wholly speculative nonsense just because you have no way to refute the FACT that you have stolen the logo of ET and several other companies.

It is also YOU who claimed to have PROOF that you are employed by ET (as a MARKETING PLOY), so where is it? Tell us your writer username at ET.

wb y dont you answer this question ....do you work for ET....as you ve got lot of knowledge about them...n yes , i need writing assistance...i ll throw money n get it done ...u dont ve to worry....

I will not answer loaded questions that I have already answered 100 times.

I do not know what showing your writer Id from ********* will prove...unless you have access to *********.

I have never used ********* before. I have never received a reply email from *********. Click on their customer service 24 hours a day button...it is always like that. Try submitting a question through their help form. It comes up as an error. It always does that. They are probably not scammers, but they are possibly one of the worst run websites I have seen. I am wondering how they can keep track of writer Id's and how you can prove anything from somebody's writer ID.

Where do you find writer ID's on their website?


"Do you work for *********?"

That is a loaded question?

Can I just say that I don't care if WB writes for *********, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Maybe he/she does, maybe he/she doesn't, although I've yet to see any solid evidence, just lots of accusations. Seems there's a core of people on here who just can't let this one go...

I'm not WB's biggest fan, but I think this is one accusation that's consistently fallen flat. I think he/she means well (WB, I mean), just shouts a little too much too often

I do not really care if she works for them or not, but if she does then she loses all credibility. I hope she does not work for them because it appears she has a great command of the English language. I have read some papers from that site....and wow....maybe I just picked examples from the wrong writer.

Let me play devil's advocate for a second. Let's say that I do work for ET. Can you please explain how that makes anything that I've ever typed invalid or untrue?

1. You work for ET as marketer, PR, and "SEO" (fact).

2. When #1 is true, you also created Essay Fraud to discredit your direct competition (fact).

3. Whatever you write here is continuing your agenda to slander and discredit your competition which has better rankings in search engines and provides better services for less. (fact)

Well...you are posing as an objective poster and have said many times that you do not work or are affiliated with ET in any way. So that would make you lose credibility if in fact you do work for them or are affiliated with them in any way correct? I never said anything is untrue or true...I am talking about credibility to the average forum poster.

Are you serious with that question?

I'm sorry that you obviously don't understand my point. The information that I post is 100% true and verifiable (which nobody can deny), so my personal affiliations are absolutely irrelevant. I'm not lying about any sites and I'm not promoting any others. Get it, or do I need to draw you a picture with giant crayons?

No...your personal affiliations are 100% relevant because you have denied being affiliated with them in the past. If it happens that you are affiliated with them, then you are a liar. I do not trust liars no matter how much evidence they introduce. Once a liar...always a liar. You really are touchy with any type of accusation. Seriously...settle down and look objectively at anything on this forum for once. You are not the spokesperson here and you are not in charge...although you act as though you are.

That is very peculiar, and further fuels suspicions.

Now...look at this objectively:

Topic 1:
Anytime anybody posts anything about other sites you say nothing. This could be anecdotal evidence etc.

Anytime anybody posts any evidence about ET...even if anecdotal...you call it lies and fraud.

Topic 2:
You are here constantly.

You constantly quote the rules of the forum as though you own the place, yet no mod or admin enforces these rules (advertisements for websites etc.)

You never post in forums where people are asking for help...though you state you are here to guard customers and writers from the fraud sites.

Topic 3:

You constantly throw out insults, but once somebody does the same back you state "you are the one resorting to insults."

Now....objectively one can easily come to the following conclusions:
1) You are affiliated with *********
2) This forum is affiliated with *********
3) You are affiliated with this forum

Now...I personally do not really care. I am just pointing out WHY somebody would think the way they think about you...and I consider it totally legitimate to think this way. Why do I not care? I believe if ET is associated with this forum, there is enough negative publicity to that possible fact that it cannot help the company too well. If you are their spokesperson, then it really cannot be helping out the company. You insult quite a bit....I do too but I do not represent any company.

So, I am quite content with you if you are in fact hiding some skeletons in your posting closet...because you are doing more damage than good if that is the case.

I know many will say, "So mre...what do you think WB is?"
I say if WB is a rep for ET, then she needs to be fired because she is making it way too easy to suspect something is going on.

Also WB...you seriously need to learn to take criticism and also need to learn that not everybody agrees with you. If you do not learn these two key concepts, you will never make it in life.

I suggest that a person that lies loses credibility and you disagree with me...that is fine, but do not post that you need to "draw a picture with giant crayons." You do not even know me. You do not know my education. I do not know your education. However, there are undeniable facts present here:

If you are lying about being affiliated with ET, then you lose all credibility...no matter the veracity of your postings. Liars lose credibility...it is a simple fact. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Also, why get so defensive when I suggest you may lose credibility if you are lying about your affiliation?

Seriously, the world is a screwy place and there are way too many busy bodies like yourself. If somebody promotes their site on here let the mod fix it. Do not post: "that is not allowed on this forum" because YOU DO NOT OWN THE FORUM! Unless of course you do own the forum and just do not admit it.

If somebody posts anecdotal evidence about ET, do not ask for their writer's ID, order number, etc. Because.....wait for it...wait for it....

WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT PROVE? Unless of course you have communication with ET in which you can look up writer Id's and order numbers.

Now you see the suspicions? Do you need me to draw you a picture with a giant crayon? (You see how immature and insulting that sounds?)

mmmh! someone here is a big big liar.shame shame.
and why are we not allowed to recommend sites that have done wonders to our grades?????
I think that's selfish.

You are an irresponsible liar. I won't waste my time proving you so because the only members who MATTER in this forum already know the truth. I have defended many different companies when I know the claims against them to be false. You have ZERO integrity for making such a claim without having done proper research in the forum.


Damn right, because I know that it's false. I (and others) have proven it countless times. Unlike you, I don't make FALSE STATEMENTS based on ignorance.

WritersBeware
You mean honestessay is a fraud

It seems such a shame that a post for help get cut down and drowned in 'who not to use' - its difficult to find who to use...this site can be so useful in beating Scam Sites - but we seem more pre-occupied about squabbling with ourselves.

Don't use Professays. It will just give you rubbish. I paid US$600 and I ended up can't submit the paper

I am the CEO/managing director/founder/CFO/COO and also the largest shareholder of Professays and i remember we gave you a cool , beautiful paper related to your subject. In fact, i thought you were supposed to pay as more for going beyond the call of duty and ensuring the paper was A++.

You owe as an additional $200. Please pay.

Considering hawking yourself directly to the client? You know that is a no, no. A mere comment on the actual usability of the two companies would have been better appreciated by the user. Your response was totally off target. Which is why I suspect you are here not to help the students, but to run a scam yourself.