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No response from a large custom dissertation research group?


davidparadis  1 | 1   Student
Mar 23, 2012 | #1
Hi, I'm new here. This forum has been extremely helpful. I just ordered a paper from a large dissertation business writing team. I made the due date for the paper tomorrow 2:00 pm since i need time to revise, check and change the work. I sent a message to the writer and the support contact asking them if they had a writer for my paper. I haven't received any notifications or responses yet. Should I be worried?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 23, 2012 | #2
I don't see any orders due at 2:00PM tomorrow (EST). That probably means someone already took it off the board.
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 23, 2012 | #3
I would be concerned about ordering from a website prominently displaying a quote from an article that actually thoroughly rebukes the company (and the academic writing industry as a whole).

Perhaps the "Modest" and "Proposal" in that article's title might hint at the ensuing irony...

On the other hand, it could be a quite clever filtration system: Any student who fails to comprehend that the 'praise' isn't really praise is, most likely, not one who will prove especially picky about the finished product.
OP davidparadis  1 | 1   Student
Mar 23, 2012 | #4
Thanks FreelanceWriter. That takes a load off. I have to finish another 2 papers for my polis sci and marketing classes, and now that I know that my other paper is getting done, I can focus on the other two assignments. Oh and btw I read a lot of your posts and you are one of the main reasons I decided to go with a dissertation writing team. If you don't mind me asking, how are they with deadlines and is there anything in particular I should look out for in the paper or are they more or less reliable? Thanks a lot, you've been extremely helpful.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 23, 2012 | #5
Maybe the company has a sense of humor. But, yeah...weird quote to put there.
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 24, 2012 | #6
Lol well like I said, it's potentially pretty clever.

I could create some weird nutritional supplement and advertise it as, according to the Huffington Post, "A supplement you absolutely need to take." Though if you check the citation you'll notice that the quote continues "... if you want to DIE!" That's a nice trick to weed out potential buyers who are inclined to demand verification of claims.

In any case, as FreelanceWriter has some firsthand knowledge here: How long have you worked with the site, and how have you found them so far? I take it they can't be too bad from a writer's perspective if you've stayed with them for any length of time?
WritersBeware  
Mar 24, 2012 | #7
D652482, with all due respect, you don't have a clue. In reading the article, the quote on a dissertation writing team website is accurate. Also, the article does not "thoroughly rebuke the company." If you're going to make bold claims, you need to back them up with evidence. Otherwise, you come across as a know-nothing "writer" who's trying to gain some cred and steer potential clients his/her way by engaging in a propaganda campaign against the "big, bad companies."

If you're considering hiring a writer, I'd suggest working with someone directly [instead of using a company].

Yeah, like "d652482"! (That's his/her agenda in attacking companies.)

But in spite of all I said as to why you might be wary of going through a website service in the first place

Indeed, why would anyone use a company with vast resources, legal/corporate boundaries, an established identity/reputation to uphold, and as much as 17 years of online experience when he/she can hire YOU, a single, faceless "writer" with an anonymous email address who can disappear with a customer's money at the drop of a hat?

My own view as a writer, for what it's worth

For reasons that I have already outlined, your biased, self-serving "view" is worth nothing.

By the way, using a second username ("ottenfeld") to create a false sense of approval and support is not only tired, but it speaks volumes about your integrity.
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 24, 2012 | #8
WritersBeware: I hope I haven't come across as attacking the writing companies in general. I did suggest to someone inquiring about using a company for an entire dissertation that they might be better off working with someone directly. That's because dissertations tend to involve significantly more background research than, say, a term paper - and I would guess, based on my own case, that a writer taking on such a project would need a much higher per-page pay rate to make that worthwhile.

Other writers, I admit, may have different preferences. But for the same pay, I'd much rather do ten 20-page term papers than a 200-page dissertation.

Dissertation StudentDissertation Group Student[/image]I also hope you'll note that in another thread in which someone was asking advice about going freelance, I suggested it could be better to work with a company. As I mentioned in that thread, I don't do freelance - seems like a whole lot of extra work that probably isn't worthwhile. I've been writing for a single company for a little over a month now, and very much enjoying it.

I'm very much in favor of (legitimate) companies. I'm just here hoping to get an idea of one or two other legitimate companies I might work with as well to get a wider variety of assignment options. (This is proving somewhat less useful than I'd hoped as, apparently, forum rules don't permit anyone giving direct recommendations.) No interest, in the foreseeable future a least, in working directly with any clients at all. No other usernames - I'm just looking for information.

/ As far as the quote from the McLeod article, though.. I mean, you see my point about that, right? It's titled "A Modest Free Market Proposal for Education Reform" and it's by a professor writing for the Huffington Post. I'm sure he's just using the site in question as an example and not targeting it specifically, but his whole article is sarcastic. Which does make using the quote.. an interesting choice.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 24, 2012 | #9
That's a nice trick to weed out potential buyers who are inclined to demand verification of claims.

You be not surprised. Same trick with domain and company age - start a company in 2001 then after 10 years buy and forward a domain registered in 1995 to the company site. Then announce the world the 'clever' way that company exist since 1995. lolz. Students arent this stupid like there were in 1995 any more.
WritersBeware  
Mar 24, 2012 | #10
Students arent this stupid like there were in 1995 any more.

You know perfectly well that I already DESTROYED you in that debate, so you should probably just STFU, Ukrainian crook. In short, when a company acquires all of the assets of another company (especially a competing company in the exact same industry), the acquiring company takes on both companies' combined assets, service offerings, and experience. Unless you have proof to the contrary, fu*- off and die.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 24, 2012 | #11
OH! WB. I have always been on your side, but you're starting to lose me. Spouting off that 'ottenfeld' is a second username for d652482 just made me think you're a bit of a dick. I have now caught you out as being a bit of a dummy because I know the truth, as does d652482. Also don't you constantly whinge about proof! proof!? You've now just implied to everyone who reads this forum that d652482 is doing dodgy things and in turn that may ruin his reputation. Very naughty. And the fact that, sure what the article says is technically true about that writing website (it IS leading the way for post graduates to buy their work) the article is still a big fat smart arse remark about the industry. I'm so disappointed you don't have a sense of humour. Nawww.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 24, 2012 | #12
when a company acquires all of the assets of another company

Only 'ass-et' was the name. No brains, no experience, no other assets. Its just marketing name.

Why dont you go buy old newspaper touched by Thomas Edison in 1870 and post on first page on your website that your site was lucky to get approval in 1870 by Thomas Edison. Only you and the other bullsheters like Pheelkys and FreelanceReWriter come up with that.

But students not stupid any more, with a few exception.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 24, 2012 | #13
Thanks FreelanceWriter. That takes a load off.

No problem. Generally, you should have no problem with deadlines but, as with any legit company, it still always depends on the actual writer. Delays (and personal emergencies) can happen, but in that case, any experienced writer knows to contact customers ASAP and update them before missing a deadline instead of afterwards.

I take it they can't be too bad from a writer's perspective if you've stayed with them for any length of time?

Since 2003. No complaints from my perspective. I wouldn't know from the customer's perspective (besides customers whose papers I've written), but in general, the company is totally legitimate and you'll either get the paper you ordered or you'll get a full refund if no writer ever takes it off the board...and they add bonus pay to orders that seem to be at risk of not getting taken.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 24, 2012 | #14
you should have no problem with deadlines but, as with any legit company, it still always depends on the actual writer.

If you talk legit think bestessays.com[DND*]. All else is bulsh|t and propaganda.
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 24, 2012 | #15
Thanks FreelanceWriter :) And my apologies to you & WritersBeware if I've expressed unjustified concerns about a legitimate site. With so many of them out there, making a best guess from "judging a site by its cover" is the only option most of the time. Always glad to hear good news from someone with long-term experience.

Does the site actually handle dissertation work for the most part, or does it also get term papers and the like? I've been wary of getting involved with dissertations, expecting they would require much more background research relative to their length than term papers. Maybe I'm wrong about that?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Mar 24, 2012 | #16
No problem. Asking about a site isn't something you need to apologize for. That's what this forum is meant for.

Does the site actually handle dissertation work for the most part, or does it also get term papers and the like?

I don't mind answering questions that aren't answered somewhere on their site but I think this kind of stuff is on there if you look around. They probably can handle any type of assignment a student might get.
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 25, 2012 | #17
Ah oops, I don't always notice whether I'm in the Writing Services or Writing Jobs forum. I meant to ask from a potential writer's perspective - was curious if the site still gets a lot of 'typical' requests (term papers, etc.) given the dissertation focus. But I'll save such questions for the correct forum :)
WritersBeware  
Mar 25, 2012 | #18
I have always been on your side

You've been here for 5 minutes.

Spouting off that 'ottenfeld' is a second username for d652482 just made me think you're a bit of a dick.

Sorry, but the circumstantial evidence is quite strong. If you don't want people to suspect certain affiliations, you shouldn't sign-up at almost the same time as another member and start engaging is a very specific propaganda campaign against the same company.

Oh, and I'd rather be a dick than a desperate hack.

Why dont you go buy old newspaper touched by Thomas Edison in 1870 and post on first page on your website that your site was lucky to get approval in 1870 by Thomas Edison.

Oh, yes, that is TOTALLY the same thing. Ya got me! F?*kin' idiot . . . . Try a little comprehension for once:

Do you REALLY think that that shilling is going to fool people regarding which Ukrainian ripoff company you represent? Think again.

By the way, please type in English.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 25, 2012 | #19
WB. I've been signed up for 5 mins, yes, but have been reading the forum a bit longer than that. I really was always on your side in everything you've said on here (in my mind). But thinking just because I signed up a day after someone else and then post on the same thread (simply acknowledging what they've pointed out) means it's evidence we are the same person, well that's silly. I can't check when everyone has signed up just in case I appear to look like their second incarnation. You're so over the top with your 'propaganda campaign' talk. I don't know who that dissertations place is, never looked at it till it was pointed out. Don't care either as I don't need a dissertation written, nor do I write them.

I'm not a writer. I'm a procrastinating student.
WritersBeware  
Mar 25, 2012 | #20
I don't know who that dissertations place is, never looked at it till it was pointed out.

Did that stop you from supporting d652482's propaganda? Nope, it sure didn't.

Don't blame me because you're slow on the draw. I have already posted the PROOF that d652482's posts have ulterior motives. Individual writers don't sign up in an "essay" forum to immediately start attacking established companies and promote the use of "individual writers" if they do not have a propaganda campaign in the works. I've seen it a 100 times.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 25, 2012 | #21
I didn't investigate d652482's agenda/history when I joined here as I can't learn about and decipher ulterior motives of everyone before I reply to them. His "propaganda" to me was an observation which was completely accurate because I went and had a look and thought it pretty funny but weird. Seriously, calm the fu*- down.
WritersBeware  
Mar 25, 2012 | #22
an observation which was completely accurate because I went and had a look and thought it pretty funny but weird

Yeah, and I bet that you can't prove d652482's claim that the article/author "thoroughly rebukes the company," either, can you?

I'm perfectly calm. Thanks.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 25, 2012 | #23
What is it about the point of that article that you just don't get?
d652482  - | 16   Freelance Writer
Mar 25, 2012 | #24
WB: Again, my apologies for being critical of a legitimate company. I was glad to hear that FreelanceWriter has had a good experience working with them for so long.

I think if you look over my other posts on here, you'll see that I'm not anti-company. My usual stance, given the prevalence of questionable foreign sites (something I think we share a concern about), is that potential clients and potential writers alike take cues from the company's website itself and, perhaps more importantly, try to get in touch by phone to rule out sites likely to produce poor quality work. I admit I do have some doubts in cases where we're talking about an entire dissertation, unless the client has completed all of the necessary background research and can provide an outline, etc.

In any case, no ulterior motives here - just trying to sort out the good from the bad to see if I might find another company or two to write for. I can understand your cause for concern, but you won't see my trying to snatch up any clients here. I mentioned in another thread that as an academic writer, the freelance route doesn't strike me as all that appealing.

If I did plan on doing it that way, posting on forums.. doesn't seem like that would be an efficient use of time. I'd probably try a localized approach - post fliers for "writing help" around nearby colleges, try to establish some student contacts to get referrals. I'd hazard a guess that there is no shortage of students who would pay to have papers written, and that many don't just because they haven't found any options they are comfortable with. Going out and meeting with some potential clients in person seems like it would open up far more opportunities for a freelancer.
WritersBeware  
Mar 25, 2012 | #25
What is it about the point of that article that you just don't get?

Actually, it is YOU who "doesn't get it." Unless you have PROOF to support your claim about the article, you are misrepresenting as fact what is nothing more than your flawed interpretation.
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Mar 25, 2012 | #26
Try a little comprehension for once:

Send random undelivered email to oldest competitor, get undelivered email back. Then post on your site that you are in correspondence and good terms with the oldest company in industry.
WritersBeware  
Mar 25, 2012 | #27
Ms. Ukraine, please see a doctor.
ottenfeld  1 | 24  
Mar 25, 2012 | #28
WritersBeware

Yeah the fact is it's a humorous article. The proof I present to you IS THE ARTICLE. All I did was note that maybe the company has a sense of humor - boy, that's really gonna bring them down and ruin their reputation.




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