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njengawanjiru  4 | 8   Freelance Writer
Oct 29, 2011 | #1
bestwritingservice.com uses 4writers for its writing jobs and the reason why most of their assignments are poorly done its because their writers are from;

Kenya 46.8%, Paraguay 17.2%, India 11.0%, Algeria 6.0% and Philippines 4.2% so you can guess who writes your paper. There is none of the US and Uk writers whom you ask for.

Check on the statistics of those who visit this website; alexa.com/siteinfo/4writers.net
At the Audience Tab Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

bestwritingservice.com Client's be Aware
nwnjengawanjiru
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Oct 30, 2011 | #2
njengawanjirun

I totally disagree with you. Being from Kenya (where you come from), Paraguay, India, or any other developing nation does not mean one is a poor writer. I am a Kenyan myself and have written several doctoral-level projects some of which end up being published in respected journals. Many writers bragging to be from the US or the UK may not have achieved this feat!

4writers may very qualified writers but the biggest problem is that many sites do no reward their writers well. So it is obvious that only new and inexperienced writers work for these sites! Competent writers work directly with their clients - no middle men or sites! I am a registered writer with many sites but I cannot waste my precious time writing for them as they cannot match what direct clients are willing to pay me.

My advice to clients out there is to only outsource to individual writers and not sites!

My advice to clients out there is to only outsource to individual writers and not sites!

Clients should learn that even those self-proclaimed native speakers of English from the US or the UK are real scams as well. A good number of them may be born and brought up in a native English speaking nation but they do not qualify to be perfect native English speakers. They are in actual sense descendants of third, fourth, or even fifth generation native English speaking communities (read, parents, teachers, friends, etc). In that case they are not perfect speakers of native English language.

Again, most of the US and UK writers lack the capacity to complete all the orders outsourced to them within the set deadlines. Ask me how they manage to handle them comfortably and I will say they outsource to the same ESL writers whom they spend time and space in this forum calling names! Isn't that hypocrisy? Well, I will call it concealed rip-off.

In actual sense most of those US and UK writers are either owners of sites or they are middlemen. A middleman and a site owner sail in the same boat - when it capsizes they will comfortably swim to safety leaving their clients vulnerable deep sea sharks!

I am aware that there are many poor ESL writers here in Kenya (where I come from) who claim to be experts. They are the reason why ESL writers have been branded as incompetent. Therefore, client should first test a writer (whether US, UK, ESL, etc) before outsourcing any big order to them.

I salute all competent ESL writers from Kenya, India, Nigeria, etc. Wanjiru et al you make Kenya proud. Wikwo!
pheelyks  
Oct 30, 2011 | #3
In that case they are not perfect speakers of native English language.

Your argument makes no sense.

most of the US and UK writers lack the capacity to complete all the orders outsourced to them within the set deadlines.

Bulls-i*.

Ask me how they manage to handle them comfortably and I will say they outsource to the same ESL writers whom they spend time and space in this forum calling names!

You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true.

most of those US and UK writers are either owners of sites or they are middlemen

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up your ridiculous (and poorly worded) claims?

I am aware that there are many poor ESL writers here in Kenya (where I come from) who claim to be experts.

Like yourself....

I salute all competent ESL writers

So do I. You aren't one of them.
mukhirjii4  1 | 28  
Oct 30, 2011 | #4
stupid immigrant comments
pheelyks  
Oct 30, 2011 | #5
Now that's discrimination. Also untrue in both cases--I was born and still live in the US; essayhood was born and lives in Kenya--neither of us are immigrants.
OP njengawanjiru  4 | 8   Freelance Writer
Oct 30, 2011 | #6
pheelyks
Lets have some order here; Thank you for your response. Keep it up.
Just a reminder, issues to be discussed in this threads are;

bestwritingservice.com uses 4writers for its writing jobs and the reason why most of their assignments are poorly done its because their writers are from;

Kenya 46.8%, Paraguay 17.2%, India 11.0%, Algeria 6.0% and Philippines 4.2% so you can guess who writes your paper. There is none of the US and Uk writers whom you ask for.

Check on the statistics of those who visit this website; alexa.com/siteinfo/4writers.net#

At the Audience Tab Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

bestwritingservice.com Client's be Aware
nwnjengawanjiru
pheelyks  
Oct 30, 2011 | #7
njengawanjiru
Thanks for your support. It isn't necessary or even wanted, but it's amusing to know it's there.
Just a reminder, this is a public forum and I will respond how I see fit. I know you think you've done a great service by "revealing" these companies to be scams, but people (like myself0 that have been in this industry for years already knew this. The only writers that get taken in by their scams for any length of time are slow-witted EFL writers that are from fluent. Like yourself.

I'm sorry they screwed you over. Really. If you want to be taken seriously as an academic writer in English, though, you have some fundamental issues you need to work on.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2011 | #8
Your argument makes no sense.

Of course I didn't expect them to make sense to a "native" English speaker!

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up

Evidence? he he he!

Like yourself....

!

So do I. You aren't one of them.

You never acknowledge other writers. Do you?
pheelyks  
Oct 31, 2011 | #9
Of course I didn't expect them to make sense to a "native" English speaker!

If something makes logical sense, it makes logical sense, period. Your statement, i.e. that many native English speakers are also descendants of native English speaking communities and that therefore they are bad writers, makes no sense.

Evidence? he he he!

That's what I thought.

You never acknowledge other writers. Do you?

If by "acknowledge" you mean "think are qualified," then yes. There are several very qualified writers on this board, and some EFL writers that acknowledge their capabilities and approach this business honestly. You're halfway there, openly admitting that you're from Kenya, but you have yet to realize that your English really isn't up to par.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2011 | #10
You're halfway their, openly admitting that you're from Kenya, but you have yet to realize that your English really isn't up to par.

A native English speaker!

If something makes logical sense, it makes logical sense, period. Your statement, i.e. that many native English speakers are also descendants of native English speaking communities and that therefore they are bad writers, makes no sense.

Well, I am sure you cant see the sense in this argument!

There are several very qualified writers on this board, and some EFL writers that acknowledge their capabilities and approach this business honestly.

I am an honest writer. You are not! Otherwise why do you always behave like a caged rat?
pheelyks  
Oct 31, 2011 | #11
Well, I am sure you cant see the sense in this argument!

No, I can't, that's why I pointed it out.

I am an honest writer. You are not!

What have I said that you feel is dishonest?
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2011 | #12
No, I can't, that's why I pointed it out.

Thanks!

What have I said that you feel is dishonest?

e.g. You dismiss me as bad writer yet you have never tested my skills!
pheelyks  
Oct 31, 2011 | #13
You dismiss me as bad writer yet you have never tested my skills!

Your skills (and the lack thereof) are evident from your posts on this forum. While I understand the writing here might not be your best, the number of consistent errors in your posts makes it quite clear that you don't have a full command over the mechanics of English grammar, syntax, punctuation, and word usage. I don't think you're a "bad" writer, I think you're an EFL writer, and I think your customers ought to know that.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #14
My clients know my country of origin (Kenya). They also know what I can comfortably do and what I cannot.

I am a competent writer!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #15
My clients know my country of origin (Kenya).

Good.

They also know what I can comfortably do and what I cannot.

I don't think you know what you can comfortably can do.

I am a competent writer

Competent, yes. Fluent to an academic level, no.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #16
Competent, yes.

Thanks.

Fluent to an academic level, no.

My work is always perfect!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #17
My work is always perfect!

No, it most certainly isn't.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #18
It most certainly "isn't" but my clients score good grades, always!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #19
First, if they're turning in your work as their own they're cheating.

Second, if they turn in your work and get good grades, their instructors clearly don't care about language mechanics. While this is possible, it certainly isn't true of all instructors and especially not at high-end US and UK universities.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #20
First, if they're turning in your work as their own they're cheating.

I am aware of this catch. Please spare me these so usual rants!

Second, if they turn in your work and get good grades, their instructors clearly don't care about language mechanics. While this is possible, it certainly isn't true of all instructors and especially not at high-end US and UK universities.

he he he, you are amusing to listen to, sometimes. Please note that 99.9% of my clients attend US, UK and Australian Universities! You are aware of this, aren't you?
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #21
I am aware of this catch. Please spare me these so usual rants!

I'm glad you're aware. Please spare us your nonsense, then.

Please note that 99.9% of my clients attend US, UK and Australian Universities!

I don't believe you.

You are aware of this, aren't you?

Why would I be aware of the demographics of people you manage to cheat?
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #22
Why would I be aware of the demographics of people you manage to cheat?

lol!

'm glad you're aware. Please spare us your nonsense, then.

You should address this statement to yourself!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #23
lol!

This isn't an answer, nor is it a clever way to void giving an answer. It's childish and stupid, and I'm assuming the work you create is on the same level.

You should address this statement to yourself!

Your best response is, "Nuh-uh, you are!"? I mean, seriously?
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #24
This isn't an answer, nor is it a clever way to void giving an answer. It's childish and stupid, and I'm assuming the work you create is on the same level.

Childish? As far as it goes Pheelyks is the biggest joker of all time! Again, your rants don't require answers!

Your best response is, "Nuh-uh, you are!"? I mean, seriously?

Your name leaks stupidity. A rip!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #25
Childish?

Yes, childish. Like this:

your rants don't require answers!

Avoiding responses when you know you simply don't have an adequate answer is childish. Calling my brief and reasoned statements "rants" is just stupid.

Your name leaks stupidity. A rip!

And the true colors start to show....
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #26
And the true colors start to show....

Hypocrisy! Didn't you call me an ahole in an earlier posting? I guess you now know how it feels to play big boy all the time!

Avoiding responses when you know you simply don't have an adequate answer is childish. Calling my brief and reasoned statements "rants" is just stupid.

Responding to a statement that does not warrant an answer is stupid. Your "reasoned statements" are not only void but they ooze backstreet-profanity. They amount to vainglory!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #27
Hypocrisy!

I don't recall. If I did, you were probably being an *******, though. I fail to see how calmly pointing out your ignorance makes me "a rip ****."

Your "reasoned statements" are not only void but they ooze backstreet-profanity.

Exactly which of my statements is "oozing backstreet profanity"?
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #28
calmly pointing out

Of course it may pass as a too usual thing to you. After all, you just admitted that you are always calm when you hurl profane words at others!

Exactly which of my statements is "oozing backstreet profanity"?

Please be kind and read through your earlier postings!
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #29
it certainly isn't true of all instructors and especially not at high-end US and UK universities.

Mind your grammar, please!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #30
After all, you just admitted that you are always calm when you hurl profane words at others!

Your reading comprehension is worse than your writing.

Please be kind and read through your earlier postings!

It isn't my job to find evidence for your claims. I am somewhat confused by your responses, though--when you think you have a decent argument (even when you're wrong), you're happy to respond; when you can't think of something to say in response to a valid point I've made, you claim my posts aren't worth responding to. Then you call me a hypocrite. Do you see the problem here?

Mind your grammar, please!

There isn't a single mistake in the line you quoted.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #31
Do you see the problem here?

The obvious problem here is that you consider yourself to be the industry yardstick. Unfortunately, you are not!

Your reading comprehension is worse than your writing.

Yes, because I don't dance to your bleached tunes!
pheelyks  
Nov 01, 2011 | #32
The obvious problem here is that you consider yourself to be the industry yardstick.

No, I don't. The rules of grammar, syntax, and word usage are the "yardsticks," and they can be found in a multitude of texts, many of them published long before I was born. The problem is that you aren't familiar with these yardsticks, and so they scare you when others pull them out.

Yes, because I don't dance to your bleached tunes!

I don't know what "bleached tunes" are, but the reasons your reading comprehension needs work is because you a) don't understand what is being said, and b) assume things are being said when they aren't.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 01, 2011 | #33
I think the guy is trying to translate some of his native language expression into English (in the most literal sense). I guess this person EssayHood (who actually is either Heremeout, Muny, and/or Mukherjee) is trying to say the "persuasive argument/talk". Lolz.
Heremeout  7 | 175   Freelance Writer
Nov 02, 2011 | #34
who actually is either Heremeout, Muny, and/or Mukherjee

How could you incorporate me into that bunch of crooks you moron!? How could you!?

There isn't a single mistake in the line you quoted

As usual, you failed to see them.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 02, 2011 | #35
The problem is that you aren't familiar with these yardsticks, and so they scare you when others pull them out.

Pheelyks, while I agree sometimes I make mistakes here, it does not mean I aren't familiar with the core English grammar rules! A quick review of a number of your posts will reveal glaring grammatical mistakes too!

you a) don't understand what is being said, and b) assume things are being said when they aren't.

These two points honestly describe Pheelyks, not me!

I think the guy is trying to translate some of his native language expression into English (in the most literal sense). I guess this person EssayHood (who actually is either Heremeout, Muny, and/or Mukherjee) is trying to say the "persuasive argument/talk". Lolz.

If you have no idea what you want to say, keep yourself busy!

How could you incorporate me into that bunch of crooks you moron!

I have no idea what you mean by a "bunch of crooks". Maybe it could help if you clarified your assertion!
pheelyks  
Nov 02, 2011 | #36
As usual, you failed to see them.

As usual, you claim things are there that aren't, and won't get specific when asked.

it does not mean I aren't familiar with the core English grammar rules!

.................

These two points honestly describe Pheelyks, not me!

Point out one instance of misunderstanding where I have not asked for clarification, and one instance where I have acted like you said something you didn't actually say. If you can do this, I'll leave you alone.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 02, 2011 | #37
essayhood2030:
it does not mean I aren't familiar with the core English grammar rules!

.................

Pheelyks, this is a genuine mistake. I saw it after I had already posted the comment. Thanks for pointing it out!

Point out one instance of misunderstanding where I have not asked for clarification, and one instance where I have acted like you said something you didn't actually say. If you can do this, I'll leave you alone.

The number of times you misquote others is not an important issue here, yours is a chronic case of creating a negative scenario from virtually everything posted on this forum by ESL (Kenyan) writers. Well, everyone (including you) is entitled to their own opinions (and of course feelings) in this forum. You can carry on and on!
pheelyks  
Nov 02, 2011 | #38
Pheelyks, this is a genuine mistake.

....and your other mistakes are fake?

The number of times you misquote others is not an important issue here

When have I misquoted anyone?

Well, everyone (including you) is entitled to their own opinions

The basic rules of English grammar, syntax, and word usage are not opinions. It is my opinion that you're an ass; that you cannot write without making consistent errors in these areas is an objective fact.
essayhood2030  - | 34   Freelance Writer
Nov 02, 2011 | #39
It is my opinion that you're an ass; that you cannot write without making consistent errors in these areas is an objective fact.

Yes, I do make mistakes, Pheelyks makes mistakes too.

It is true that I don't seem to bother being an ass (in your opinion) since in my opinion (and of course that of many others in this forum) I am not.
pheelyks  
Nov 02, 2011 | #40
Yes, I do make mistakes, Pheelyks makes mistakes too.

I make typos. You make consistent and significant errors in word usage, grammar, etc. They're not the same thing.

It is true that I don't seem to bother being an ass

This doesn't mean what you think it means, for instance.

in my opinion (and of course that of many others in this forum

This is the kind of statement that needs evidence. Who are the "many other people" on this forum that don't think you're an ass?




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