UKESSAYS = UNIVERSITYESSAYS -IS IT A SCAM?

I found a site called Universityessays.com it is owned by the same people as ukessays, both sites have the same guarantees bar the one saying how much you get if the work is plagiarised £5000 or £2000. (The exercise is of course to receive a good piece of work, not to take writers to court)..

So based on the fact that they are owned by the same outfit and they both guarantee virtually the same level of Guarantees which the work will be written to including a guaranteed, 1st, 2:1, or 2:2 standard why then it the cost of University essays £90 per 1000 words and Ukessays.com is £110 per 1000 words??

Could this be said to be a scam or just bad marketing?

If the reason is that Universityessays.com focuses on the 'poorer end of the student market' then what is the purpose of having different sites with different prices, do those using UKESSAYS.com get ripped off?

Also, there is a statement on the universityessays.com warnings page that states:

1. Prices: no genuine UK company charges less than £90 per 1000 words for 2:1 class work - ever! Even that price is very low. It's impossible to make a profit using UK writers selling work at lower prices!

So according to that statement at £90 per 1000 words its almost impossible to make a profit, and at £89 it is entirely impossible?

Maybe Miss AA Jennifer can shed light on this new, why charge different prices for the same product idea?

Also do these sites use ESL writers? Does any ESL writers on this board work for these companies? There seems to be so many ESL writers on Essaybay I would be suprised if there were none working for these sites especially if a profit can hardly be made at £90 per 1000 words.

When you consider that UK essays only pays the writer £30 to £40 per 1000 words they are getting quite a tidy profit just for the admin side of things and matching writer to customer.

You will get the same writers for these projects which ever price you pay as all projects are sent out the the writers for them to bid on.

Some writers will take on private customers and will charge considerably less as they have no overheads etc to worry about. I know of several ex writers of UK essays that do exactly this and charge between £40 - £60 per 1000 words and still guarantee the quality expected. A genuine writer will pride themselves in producing quality work and although you do not get the same promises made by the large companies, if you find a really good writer you won't need any of these fancy promises.

We do spend a large amount on advertising and on our websites though. Some of our writers do this full time. I'm not sure as an individual that you'd get enough work full time - maybe you would - we have the benefit of a large in-house IT team that help secure several million visits a year and that means a lot of work for writers on the books. This is a general thing really - whatever company you work for, you may earn less than working on your own but you've got the regular work.

Universityessays.com - £90 per 1,000 words
UKessays.com - £120 per 1,000 words

Both Guarantee a 2:1, 2:2 or 1st class service!

So whats the difference?

Don't your sites point out to consumers not to trust sites that offer different prices?

I agree completely with ex writers comments..

question for jenniferAA:

3000 word essay
required standard is a 1st
its an undergrad essay
due in 2 days

the price quote from uk essays.com is a mere £1440. lol. So how much does the writer get from this? Somebody told me it would in the region of £200, which is in my opinion a ridiculously low cut (below 15%). Is this accurate?

it can be less than £200 monsta

The price of £200 about right going price and reasonable to writers like myself, based in India the costs are much lower and its more worhtwhile. Many other writers who work for Essaybay from India and Pakistan get regular work from Ukessays so it helps alot to make the month end salary good one.

Many of my friends started on ukessays and we got the mail to invite to join the essaybay so now get much better works, its nice to get 1st class work too.

Vika, as an employee of ukessays.com[DND*], thank you for having the integrity to provide inside information about exactly how ukessays.com[DND*] is engaging in blatant misrepresentation.

Proof of misrepresentation on the ukessays.com[DND*] website:

You are right to be concerned about who is writing your essay. Many essay writing companies try and con their customers by assigning 'English as Second Language' writers to complete your work. Such writers usually work at a cheaper rate than native English writers, and in some cases do not even hold qualifications in the area you are studying. We only hire native English speakers to write for our company . . . . We only hire writers who speak English as a native first language. Most of our writers live in the UK, but some reside in Australia and the United States.

ukessays.com[DND*]/how-we-assign.php

I've already saved a copy of GOOGLE'S archived version of the page, so it matters not if the misrepresentations suddenly disappear or get edited from the live page due to being outed here.

This appears to be an absolutely disgusting misrepresentation by ukessays.com[DND*] and Academic Answers. What makes it even worse is that they hypocritically accuse their competitors of the very same misrepresentation (or, to use ukessays.com[DND*]'s own word, "con") in order to increase their sales!

The posting from Vika is priceless!!

This confirms the integrity of the company is as flawed as the integrity of Jennifer. Jennifer has asserted throughout that her qualifications or lack of them do not reflect on her involvement with the company in anyway and I have been constantly asserting that if she can lie about her academic achievements how are customers supposed to believe her claims about the company she works for. The post from Vika shows that the company are prepared to LIE about the writers they employ in order to get more customers whilst at the same time condemning other companies for employing ESL writers.

It is hardly surprising that this is the case given that their envoy for the company (Jennifer) continually lies throughout her threads her. at one point she tried to claim that it was unlikely that a writer would be fined 300% for late work or quality issues but then later retracts when this can be proven otherwise. She has also asserted that very few writers would have had this penalty imposed on them and offers to explore my complaint if I disclose the relevant order number (thereby identifying to the company my identity). If this is such a RARE OCCASION as Jennifer suggests she should easily be able to identify me as I would be one of a very small minority especially since I have also disclosed my other academic achievements. The fact that I am still unknown to Jennifer suggests that the number of writers fined in this way must be a considerable amount!!

Have we solved the issue with the difference in price yet? It seems people talk about everything else here apart from the initial question! :-/

You might want to check your first post:

Good Point!

OMG.....Jennifer has really disappeared from the face of this earth~GOOD riddance!

Finding out all this is so cool....somebody should sue them for such misrepresentation....the way I see things UK essays is on its way down anyways.....these people cannot even afford a decent email system....

Keep up the good work folks...lets bring these guys down....haven't they ripped off enough people already?I know why they hire ESL writers...so they can fine them easily and get away with it while threatening them with legal action ....more like the approach of Peter Richardson of project1stclass (in a more sophisticated manner though).... How would someone sitting a thousand miles away in India manage to sue them in a small claims court....so they use and abuse such writers to make a tidy profit......

"[Barclay] never had pupillage and is not and never was a practising barrister"

SOURCE: nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2008/07/on-the-naughty-step-4/

Google's cache of SOURCE:
74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:y9HyxpKGCPoJ:nearlylegal.co.uk/blog/2008/07/on-the-naughty-step-4/

Actually WB the full quotr from that article was

'Next up, a not criminal but morally, shall we say, debatable barrister, Mr Barclay, late of 'training at Grays Inn' (which, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, I take to mean that he never had pupillage and is not and never was a practising barrister). '

They are assuming he never did pupillage. Of course this can be verified through checking with the various chambers to see if he has ever held a tenancy anywhere or through the bar council or his inns of court as they all hold records of those who have completed pupillage.

I have a colleague who is a bencher at Grays Inns who has told me that according to their records UkEssays has never worked as a practising barrister having failed to secure a pupillage. The Bar Council also do not have any record of him having completed pupillage. I cannot point you to a website to confirm this as this is from records held at the 2 above named places. I have also checked the list of tenants at chambers none of whom have ever heard of him.

Trevor,

I know its a bit late (and you might have already found out) but I was also wondering why universityessays.com are "Lower in price. Not lower in quality!" than the other branches of the same company. I wrote them an email a while ago:

_______________________________
I noticed that universityessays.com is the same/similar company as UKEssays.co.uk (including: law-essays-uk.com, oxbridgegraduates.com, degree-essays.com, etc), all working under Academic Answers ltd.

I want to know, therefore, why the price for this website is cheaper than the others; is it because there are different writers that charge less? Also, is this website recommended mainly for essays, rather than dissertations? For instance, Academic Answers ltd also has a website specifically for dissertations (ukdissertations.com), though this service has a better price. But would the quality of the dissertation differ in any way?

_______________________________

I received this as a response:
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Thanks for the email. Thank you first of all for your interest. I can confirm that the prices for University Essays are cheaper because the researchers that we use are new to the team so therefore do not have as much experience with the company as more experienced ones. What I can say however is that to become a researcher for the organisation they must display the ability to consistently write to a very high level as well as proving that they have physically obtained the relevant qualifications.

In conclusion I can confirm that by ordering through University Essays there is no risk of the overall quality of your piece being compromised.
________________________________

I hope this answers your question. What I would like to know from here is if the quality of the essay does match up to what they promise...

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Universityessays.com - Lower in price, but not lower in quality?

Universityessays.com is part of Academic Answers ltd, the organisation also under UKessays.co.uk, but provide cheaper prices for their services.

I found that the reason they are cheaper is because the writers are new to the organisation and therefore are not as experienced. University Essays claim, however, that the quality of the work will not be affected.

Has anyone tried universityessays.com before, and if so, what was your experience with them?

Strangely enough, on the order page, you can choose whether to have a UK or US based writer; this option is not on their other sister websites...

I've never read so much propaganda on a single site. It's really shameful.

That's blatant propaganda. They are simply trying to "get in on" the cheaper market. They can charge less at universityessays.com because the prices at UKEssays.co.uk are so astronomically overpriced.

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Hi everyone,

I got scammed by ukessays.com so figured I would tell everyone, if you are going to use them they will give fail-level essays, but if you do, then at least use their cheaper service. Check the two out, they're the same, but universityessays.com is hundreds of pounds cheaper than ukessays.com

At a very basic level-
ukessays.com - undergraduate 1,000 word essay, five day delivery- 120 pounds
universityessays.com - same essay - 90 pounds
(using longer essays, the price difference soon mounts up)

Remember, their standard is not guaranteed and you CAN easily fail using their services.

Hi WritersBeware, I was just wondering why you seem against Universityessays.com. Have you had bad experiences with them?

I was tempted to use their service because of the relatively cheaper price, but now you've given me reasons to doubt!

If anyone has any thoughts on this, please relpy!

When I worked there they asked for proof of nationality and uni degree. They don't actually employ writers until they verify their identity, nationality and academic degree(s). Must have changed their policies ... don't know

i done see any problem if papers are written from the writer anywhere around the world it must be a good one

Hey sallyturnstock,

Wow. I wished I'd known that. I've actually made received six completed orders from UKessays.com in the past, and all of the orders, except one, met the 2:1 standard. They were also delivered on time. However, the one order that didn't meet the standard had failed miserably. It seems it's just a matter of luck... I guess some writers are better than others. Did you try to claim for a refund? I believe they have a guarantee on your grades, otherwise you get your money back.

Also, check out this relevant thread:

On my thread, I mentioned that I've spent nearly £3,000 on their services to date. But I think I'm being screwed over on my latest, and most costly, order of £945.Follow my story here: essayscam.org/forum/es/ukessays-com-disastrous-experience-making-1697/

Hello Sally,

The prices are different on University Essays because of the guarantees.

If you compare both site's guarantees, you'll notice they're very different.

With UKEssays you're paying for 18 guarantees, where on University Essays you're paying for 12. It's worth digging into the differences as you can see why one service costs less. I won't state them all here because it's not the place and it'll look like I'm promoting our sites!

I hope this clarifies the difference between the two sites.

Thanks,
Carly.

And CriticalTheory, I'm not ignoring your case, I'm going to forward your message on to our manager.

i think i just got scammed by these guys.....submitted an order to for a three day essay. Deadline friday TODAY. They said order will be with me by midnight....Its 1.35am and am still waiiting...plus the email is crap, they only reply one a day or not at all.........oh oh!!!!! am scared!!!

They try to comer all the markets. High end, mid-range, or lowend, the chint orders and up on the same server with the same writers vying for the work. The main difference is how much the writers get paid. The cpp is based on which company the order came through. Budget orders means the writer will get stiffed. High-end = increased . cpp. Mid-range means the writer is between a good cpp and getting a pittance for each page he writes.

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