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ACADEMIC CUSTOM PAPER - RIGHTS / COPYRIGHTS QUESTION


WritersBeware  
Dec 06, 2011 | #1
I see that you prefer baseless conjecture over facts.

Right off the bat, it was an epic fail.

It's an "epic fail" that-according to you-an independent, FREELANCE writer chose to do something that is 100% against the company's policy?
Again, any freelance writer can fall behind and commit fraud at any time. All the company can do is fire the writer. This applies to any company in any industry.

why don't you PM

Read the rules of the forum.

legitimate sources I can utilize for future work?

The company that you are demeaning is legitimate, as are several others in the industry.
wretardwriter  - | 25  
Dec 06, 2011 | #2
Hm, ok, so your role here is what? Refute negative truths against online writer and offer zero help, except for relentless bash sessions on any new users looking for help. There's people like you on every forum, so keep up the good work.

And the rules of the forum are as silly as the ToS on the writer website.
WritersBeware  
Dec 06, 2011 | #3
Apparently, your role is to be an uneducated, ignorant.

And the rules of the forum are as silly

It's no surprise that you don't value or honor rules.
ineedawriter  1 | 20   Student
Dec 07, 2011 | #4
Again writers beware y are you so aggressive though??@ wretardwriter, hope your issue get solved soon..
@stu4 sorry what happened to pheelyks and freelance writer?:s
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 26, 2011 | #5
I have come across a number of threads in which many people have shared their experiences with online essay writer. It's quite surprising that if anyone, having received scam from them, dares to speak against the company, the person is bombarded with threatening posts by some people here. Now, I can assume that people who defend online writing service are affiliated with the company.
WritersBeware  
Dec 26, 2011 | #6
What's not surprising is that you are an incompetent moron. I have never seen a single piece of valid evidence that the company has ever "scam" or intentionally tried to deceive anyone. So, you're damn right that I have "threatened" your lies.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 27, 2011 | #7
I have "threatened" your lies.

Lies? when did I lie? prove it!

You are such an idiot who does not even understand what is written in plain, simple English. I did not lie about that online writer crap. I don't even care if that ****** site is a scam or not. You have made your position transparent in a way that you always post here in defense of writing service. You suppose whatever others say against that company is a lie, but only the people who talk in favor of cyber essay are genuine to you and other idiots who are affiliated with online writer. Give me a break ! People reading your senseless posts are not insensible. If I were wrong, I would not have got that quick reply from you when I posted in this thread. You pretend to be a person who tries to expose a company if it really is a scam and also defend legitimate companies other than writer service, then why did you not reply to my post in which I asked about getessay.com? Whether this company is a legitimate one or a scam is another issue. You should have replied to my post if you really care about other companies. How can it be that you don't know about this company when you claim that you know all companies in this industry. Now, you will definitely say that you have not seen that thread, but let me tell you that is not going to be believed. The fact is that you are here just to protect your company. Please don't entertain me with your absurd and rotten statements that have been used over and over to prove online writer legitimacy. I know every time you post stating that "writer service has served hundreds of thousands of clients since a long time ago". Lol! And you need not to reply to this post even if it hits you in the ass. Get the hell out of here!
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2011 | #8
Lies? when did I lie? prove it!

No problem, moron.

Outright lie: It is the burden of the accuser (you) to post evidence. You have none. That makes you a liar and propagandist.

why did you not reply to my post in which I asked about getessay.com?

Gee, what sound reasoning you employ! I was not aware that I am required to respond to every post. F off.

Getessay.com is associated with Alexey (masterpapers@yahoo), owner of some of the most fraudulent sites from Ukraine.

So, amnateeb, which ripoff site do you own? You know, the site that I exposed as fraudulent, which led you to attack me here like all other angry fraudsters.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 27, 2011 | #9
This is not a lie, you thicko. I assumed that you are affiliated with writer online on the basis of the way you attack people if they complain when abused by them. This idea does not require evidence. You are a person of subnormal intelligence who cannot understand what an assumption is.

If you were not required to respond to every post, why did you respond to my post regarding online writer? This is simply because you are here to attack those who post against writer online.

It is the burden of the accuser (you) to post evidence. You have none. That makes you a liar and propagandist.

I have not taken any such responsibility. I did not accuse anyone/anything, but commented on what people post in threads here. If you still want evidence, read all the threads again. The words "liar" and "propagandist" better suit you in the way you accused me.

If you think that I own any site, that's you problem. I am not here to advertise myself. I asked about getessay because this site was not discussed in any of the threads of this forum. I did not know about the company and don't even give a hoot if it's fraudulent. As far as my post against writer online is concerned, that reads right about you, nitwit.
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2011 | #10
I assumed that you are affiliated with writer online

Academic paper copyrightsEarth to moronic fraudster: you used "people," not "WB." Many people have defended them-including competing companies and writers-against what they know to be the onslaught of propaganda from jealous, lying competitors like you. I have plenty of proof on my side. WRT, for example, owns a company that competes (fairly, a business concept that you can't comprehend) with writer online. She has defended it (and other companies) many, many times. Where's your proof that all people who defend writers online work for that company? We both know that you have none, but that doesn't stop you from posting your intentionally false "assumptions."

when abused by writers online

Can you please reference a single instance of "abuse" by online writer? I would love to see your evidence. That won't be a problem for you, will it?

If you were not required to respond to every post, why did you respond to my post regarding writer online?

Since you clearly have a comprehension problem, I will explain once again. You posted intentionally false information about a company, with the goal of getting me to respond. That's tired. The same group of morons (of which you are a part) continues to do the same thing over and over again, using different usernames. Guess what. I don't care. I know what you are doing before you do. I will gladly respond to every false accusation and instance of libel against any legitimate company/site/writer. Don't blame me because you and your fraudulent cohorts have your dirty panties in a bunch about what is obviously cyber writer's long-time dominance over you. Engage in honest business practices and maybe your company will improve. Attacking the top dogs really hasn't worked out for you.

I have not taken any such responsibility.

Well, of course you haven't voluntarily taken responsibility for your accusations, you lying piece of s-i*. FYI, taking responsibility for one's accusations is NOT an option. If you don't, you prove yourself to be a liar and propagandist, but that's not exactly a surprising development.

If you think that I own any site, that's you problem. I am not here to advertise myself. I asked about getessay

Well, of course you "asked about" some random site. You ignorantly thought that doing so before libeling freelance writers would provide you with the very "cover" that you have just attempted to take. You're wrong. I do give you a small amount of credit for thinking ahead, though. Good for you!
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 27, 2011 | #11
Look, ignorant WB, whatever you say is clear to everyone visiting this forum. You ask for evidence over and over, but dolt, you don't realize that your very existence and the way you respond to people's posts make freelance writers and your ****** personality suspicious. Whatever you vitriolic loony say is not more than a diddly-squat to people reading your post.

Since you clearly have a comprehension problem, I will explain once again.

Prove it, you imbecile. WB is such a cretin who cannot read and understand her own sentences. You are falsely accusing and libeling me by associating me with the group that you suppose is attacking freelance writers. For the DOG part, I know you are a barking dog (oh, *******") and can't bite me on leg, no matter how hard you try. ;) Lol! Keep up the good work with online writers! ;)

I don't need to reply to your posts. Go away you piffling half-wit!
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2011 | #12
"Manic Melissa" and "Mangy Matt," how have you been?

whatever you say is clear to everyone visiting this forum

That's the general goal of both written and verbal communication. Neat-o, hah?

1. Quote any substantive (look it up) statement that I have made that is untrue.

2. I will always refute your lies and beat you like a red-headed stepchild. Changing usernames over and over won't change that inevitable outcome.

3. The only thing that is "suspicious" is your utter inability to prove any of your bulls-i* claims against either me or your competitor, writer service. There is nothing "suspicious" about me refuting your bulls-i*. That's simply the right and just thing to do.

You are falsely accusing and libeling me

For goodness' sake, please don't try to debate me on the law, OK? You're an idiot. One cannot libel the anonymous username of an anonymous coward.

How much more off-topic can this thread get?
LynnFell85  1 | 49   Observer
Dec 27, 2011 | #13
anonymous coward

If that phrase was in a dictionary, your user-name would be next to it.
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2011 | #14
The Four Stooges:

LynnFell85 (Joined: Nov 29, 11)
wretardwriter (Joined: Dec 6, 11)
LLB Writer (Joined: Dec 14, 11)
amnateeb (Joined: Dec 22, 11)

It's not a coincidence that they all joined within a 3.5-week period-waiting 7-8 days to create each new username-and immediately began attacking both me and essay services. Those usernames are controlled by either the same person or the same group of people. Either way, the timing is quite telling and the recycled propaganda from each username is virtually identical.
LynnFell85  1 | 49   Observer
Dec 27, 2011 | #15
Funny you go ape-sh *t over people make bogus claims without any evidence, yet you do the exact same. The more likely scenario is that multiple people all see you for the lying sack of sh *t that you really are.
WritersBeware  
Dec 27, 2011 | #16
I posted the evidence, moron.

1. timeframe
2. number of days between each account
3. same pointless, irrelevant, recycled, already-defeated propaganda about "why" I post here
4. inability to prove incorrect ANY of my substantive claims about ANY site/company/writer

Those four things constitute extremely string, circumstantial evidence. Barring a subpoena, I cannot acquire any more evidence than that.

The more likely scenario is that multiple people all see you for the lying sack of s-i* that you really are.

The four of you idiots (i.e., "you") can't prove false ANY claim that I have EVER made about ANY site/company/writer, so how am I a "liar," exactly? (Your answer will certainly be amusing.)
LynnFell85  1 | 49   Observer
Dec 27, 2011 | #17
so how am I a "liar," exactly?

For the 100000th time, you lie about your connection to this industry.

Your act is getting pretty damn tired.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 28, 2011 | #18
Those four things constitute extremely string, circumstantial evidence. Barring a subpoena, I cannot acquire any more evidence than that.

This evidence is as false as your other claims are. Why can't you just understand things. When someone says that the one has assumed based on the conversations on this forum that people here defending online essay are actually affiliated with them, you don't agree with that and ask for evidence. I told you if you wanted evidence, you must read all the posts again as I can't quote your every ****** post. You (pudding head) are providing evidence that is totally based on your assumption. Your own evidence is a total lie itself. I pity you for that kind of "evidence". When will you acquire logical thinking, moron? Grow up! Btw, you can't get any evidence that can prove you right, dolt. I posted what I read throughout this forum and that was absolutely right, you "liar".

Secondly, I do not belong to any "group" or writing company that you think as a competitor to essay online. I work as a writer independently.

How much more off-topic can this thread get?

Unless you stop going ******* over people when they associate you with writer provider.

I really don't care about any site, WB. I am just annoyed with your behavior on this forum. Stop attacking people like that. I don't know any companies in this industry except what I have read on this forum. The threads here clearly read that people who are not happy with paper service are always assaulted by you and your "friends". This attitude is wrong. Maybe online writer is a legit company, but please let others say what they have experienced with this site. There are other legit sites in this industry and I have never said anything bad about any of them. I posted my point of view against writers online because here people have posted against writer online and told that they have got deceived by the company, but you guys don't believe them and ask for evidence, blah, blah, blah. On the other hand, if someone says that the one has been scammed by any other site, you guys do not want any evidence regarding that. Let me tell you, WB, I don't have any sort of clash or "competition" with essay writer. The reason why I posted here is that every new member asking about a site is blamed to be associated by that very site by you guys. Why is that so?
stu4  21 | 856 ☆☆   Observer
Dec 28, 2011 | #19
On the other hand, if someone says that the one has been scammed by any other site, you guys do not want any evidence regarding that.

You got that perfect right. Isnt it strange?
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 28, 2011 | #20
Strange, indeed!
WritersBeware  
Dec 28, 2011 | #21
For the 100000th time, you lie about your connection to this industry.

Yeah, that's what I knew you'd state. The problem, MORON, is that even if your silly accusation were true, it would make NO DIFFERENCE. Why? I don't lie, that's why. I prove every substantive claim about every site/company/writer about which I post. Why don't you quote the substantive claims that I have made about ANY site/company/writer that are untrue. Why can't you do that, Jethro? Why is that so difficult for you?

I posted my point of view

WRONG. If you are going to make that serious claim, you have to prove it. If you have "read" such things here, why can't you quote them? I'll tell you why: you know that if you quote them (if they exist), I will proceed to prove-with evidence-exactly how and why you are wrong/lying. It's the same story with all of you liars and charlatans. Put up or shut up.

amnateeb:
On the other hand, if someone says that the one has been scammed by any other site, you guys do not want any evidence regarding that.

You got that perfect right. Isnt it strange?

What site? Be specific, please. You seem to forget that I have already conducted extensive investigations of every major company in the industry. The majority of major sites are owned by only a dozen or so companies. I have studied them all, in great depth, for years. I know which are fraudulent and which are not. Unless I read something in a post that I know from personal experience and investigations to be untrue, I usually do not get involved-there's no need. I'm not going to waste my time or forum space by posting "Yes, I confirm" in response to every valid claim posted in this forum. It's as simple as that.

Now, Stu4 is associated with a fraudulent company from Ukraine. When someone posts a complaint about one of his ripoff sites, for example, I am quickly able to judge whether or not it's valid because I have:

* placed TEST ORDERS with every major company to personally experience how honest and fair they are with customers (especially regarding rewrites and refunds)
* created a "writer account" with every major company in order to personally experience their systems, payment schedules/forms, support staff, native language, location, hiring practices, standards, honesty in writer vs. customer scenarios, etc.

* visited and photographed/video recorded their purported "business addresses" all around the country
* spoken on the phone with state/federal agency representatives to confirm the fraudulent/fake nature of certain companies' corporate documents
* studied countless legal documents and court records involving companies and their owners
* acquired the public, criminal records of site owners
* spoken on the phone with the landlords of buildings in which certain companies have falsely claimed to have offices
* uncovered the real names, addresses, phone numbers, and foreign locations of site/company owners who falsely claim to be "American"
* etc., etc., etc.

Of course, the morons who attack me already know that I am armed with all of this information and evidence, which is why they NEVER answer my challenge to quote a single one of the "lies" that they claim I have posted. If I am such a "liar," it shouldn't be very difficult to quote one of my lies, should it? After all, I have posted 8,221 times since April of 2007. The best way to prove me to be a liar is to quote at least one of my lies, isn't it?
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 28, 2011 | #22
Oh hush up, WB. You don't have to make efforts to prove that you are not a liar. The more you try, the more you sound ignorant and incompetent. I would have quoted what you wanted, if it were a single statement. The threads in this forum have been waxed with claims against ET. How many statements to quote, idiot? Your endeavors are worthless in that regard. Don't assay, poor fish!
WritersBeware  
Dec 28, 2011 | #23
Hey, thanks for proving my point. I appreciate it.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 28, 2011 | #24
I know you won't stop attacking people if they really have bad experience with term paper provider. You are not that harsh when it's about any other legit company. This is very true. We all know that. So breaking wind WB, keep your ass working!
WritersBeware  
Dec 28, 2011 | #25
So, why can't you quote those experiences from this forum? Why is that so difficult for you? I'll tell you why: they've all been proven false, fake, and/or hasty, that's why. You already know that, and it pisses you off something terrible.
amnateeb  2 | 320   Freelance Writer
Dec 28, 2011 | #26
Alright, that's what your point was. You don't have to prove that you are not a liar because your efforts are worthless. We already know that you are a liar. No matter how hard you try, you will never prove that you are not a liar. LMAO!
disembogue  1 | 4   Student
Jan 02, 2012 | #27
All essay companies that I know resell papers later.

So, let me get this straight, phd paper does not resell or in any way publish what they have produced for you? Not even more than 6 months later? What guarantees do I have though?

Every custom essay is always totally unique original work.

I presume this means that the writers are not under policy to delete the work they have written after delivery for phd paper, or any of the other sites they might be writing for? I guess then there's no guarantee that the work won't show up some time in the future?

Guess it also means I shouldn't be running for President, if I use such a service ;)
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 02, 2012 | #28
That's their policy. If they sold them 6 months later, that would be no different from their policy on their other websites. You have no more "guarantee" or any less "guarantee" than any other promise made by most businesses about their policies.

They don't have "policies" about that because there's no way to police the computer files of remote independent contractors. As a writer, I can tell you that I'd never delete anything substantial that I ever wrote even if I never planned on doing anything with it commercially. The company may own the copyright under our contract, but they don't "own" the effort and creativity that went into my work. I keep (almost) everything I ever write.
disembogue  1 | 4   Student
Jan 02, 2012 | #29
As a writer, I can tell you that I'd never delete anything substantial that I ever wrote even if I never planned on doing anything with it commercially.

Well, even if you "own" your own effort and creativity, I guess you cannot reuse what you previously wrote, since it would be plagiarism, right?

And yes, I understand that they don't police and remove content from the remote writers machines. However, policies doesn't require enforcement. A policy can be in place as a legal means to protect against future leakage of previous work. Meaning, if there's a policy that says writers should remove the work after completion, if it shows up in the "market" later, there are grounds for lawsuit.

All very theoretical of course, I don't assume most writers want to suddenly release previous work to taint clients reputation.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 02, 2012 | #30
Thanks, but I already have a law degree. This is not "theoretical"; it's nonsense. The company already has all those legal rights "if it shows up in the market place" by virtue of owning the copyright. Adding that "policy" adds nothing to their existing rights. Furthermore, there'd be no way to link it to the writer, since the student could do whatever he or she wants after receiving the paper, despite the fact that the TOS prohibit that too.

You wanted to know whether the company resells papers it promises not to resell. In the case of the company you asked about, the answer is no. Theorize less; read more.
disembogue  1 | 4   Student
Jan 02, 2012 | #31
Hehe, thank you for your help FreelanceWriter.
wooowooo  - | 1  
Jan 04, 2012 | #32
If a student uploads his ordered custom written essay at turnitin claiming he did the work on his own and a company like Custom Term Paper sees that, do they somehow report him?
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 04, 2012 | #33
They write tens of thousands of papers a month. It's hard enough just to check every paper before you receive it. Do you really think any company could possibly police the Internet to follow the life of every paper after you receive it?
kizzy  - | 3   Student
Feb 02, 2012 | #34
Freelance Writer, I would like to request you, but throughout my non-productive day at work have only been able to find that you work for US companies. This site will not allow me to send you a PM. Goodness gracious! I am beginning to feel like a stalker! Will you please let me know how to request your services?
WritersBeware  
Feb 02, 2012 | #35
So, why are you requesting him HERE if you know where he works?
kizzy  - | 3   Student
Feb 02, 2012 | #36
WritersBeware,

From your question, I would assume that you are implying that I could request him on either of the mentioned sites by his essayscam.org user i.d.

If not, the reason why I am requesting him HERE is because I have no other idea how to contact him for the appropriate info required when placing my purchase. I really do not want to push a button in hopes that a good writer receives my request and the $900 was well spent.

I see that you are very active on this site, could you help me out? Do you have any ideas how I can reach him?
WritersBeware  
Feb 02, 2012 | #37
I'm pretty sure that every company enables you to request a writer by username. That's pretty basic.
kizzy  - | 3   Student
Feb 02, 2012 | #38
Thank you.




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