guys just two points to ask:
1. do you know if these sites transfer as well the copyrights so you can write down your name free of risk(if you pay all these money you should have as well the copyrights)
2.how can you ascertain their physical location?i.e in the uk you can ask their trade address, VAT and registration number(every company must have these elements and must provide them on its own website by law).what about in the us?
do you know if these sites verified by essayfraud transfer as well the copyrights so you can write down your name free of risk(if you pay all those money you should have as well the copyrights)
WritersBeware
Um, that would be plagiarism.
One of the criteria for application at Essayfraud is "does not condone academic fraud by offering to transfer copyright of sample papers to students".
Please do not post the same question in multiple threads. Doing that doesn't make people want to help you. You've already created your own threads for these questions.
Yeah I dont think a credible company would transfer copyrights to the client.
LEGIT RESEARCH COMPANIES (that keep their copyrights)
Does anyone here know about a legitimate essay/research company? By legitimate, I mean one that does not produce essays/researches for sale to students but rather keep their copyrites. BY legitimate, I mean one that allows for such materials only for reference purposes of clients. It is one that pays writers and does not hide under fake addresses.
Anyone who knows of such site? There must be one, at least.
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ACADEMIC CUSTOM PAPER - RIGHTS / COPYRIGHTS QUESTION
Hello,
I just received a paper from an academic custom writer service. I asked for a re-write which was done-very good. I would still work on the paper to suit my taste and meet the requirements exactly-it's ok with me..However, the only question I have is : do academic paper writer services really publish the custom writings essays after 6 months as indicated or they just say that for legal purposes i.e to avoid any law issues etc? I want to order for a 20 page research now but i'm a bit skeptical about it because no matter how much you use the custom paper written as a guidance, if they really publish it at a later date, it would still be obvious that they wrote it and this might get students into trouble. OR
They think the professor who taught the course wont be bother about a last semester essay or research that was handed in by a student even though they come across it on Google after 6 months?
All essay companies that I know resell papers later. I don't understand your concern: 1. No professors are looking for your papers online months (and a few hundred other students) after you complete their course; 2. If your paper is available online months later, that doesn't mean you didn't write it because the companies also buy student papers.
To me, the only possible issue is having your paper resold immediately within the same time frame that yours might be pending. Six months later, there's no reason to be worried about it in the first place. At least with a company I know, they are sensitive to the issue and purposely wait months before reselling anything.
out of all the people rushing to a writing company rescue, only one of them lies about not working there. I ask myself: why is that?
WritersBeware
rescue
"Rescue" implies that the site/company is in some sort of danger, which is clearly not true. The company has been operational since before 2000. Not a single mr-n (including you) has been able to bring forth the slightest bit of evidence that it engages in any sort of dishonest practices. Why are you still so bitter that they wouldn't hire you? Haven't you accepted responsibility for your own limitations?
one of them lies about not working there
To whom do you refer?
I ask myself: why is that?
You ask "yourself" questions quite frequently because you know that nobody cares to entertain your propaganda-based delusions.
they were reliable websites which said it
pheelyks
Yeah. Blogspot is highly reliable.
Academic paper service is garbage. Lucky for you snapmoi, you were happy with your paper. For many of us, they hand us rubbish essays that do not follow the instructions and are not written by native speakers of English. The worst part is, they do not respond to emails. They ignore their customers until they have nothing to do but simply accept that their large sum of money paid was wasted on a scam, and get on with their own research.
If anybody is contemplating using an academic service and looking on this website for advice, please be aware that so many of these people are working for them and are giving a very biased opinion. I am not working for anybody, for I can easily say that I am still yet to find a reliable site that actually uses native English speakers.
WritersBeware
For many of us
Who is "us"-your multiple personalities? It takes time to provide a re-write. Read the contract and see what it says about re-write time. All companies require extra time to provide re-writes. What-you think that rewrites do themselves instantly? Shut the fu*- up, stop the libel (which can land you in some serious legal trouble), and have some patience. Essay firm has been in business since before 200, completing probably 350,000+ orders. You act as if you're currently their only customer and have been waiting for ages. Sober up.
How would you like it if a company rep came here and posted all sorts of bulls-i* and exaggerations about YOU? Maybe they should post your name, address, phone number, paper details, school, etc. and refer to you in multiple threads as a "cheating, plagiarizing scammer who commits academic fraud"? All of that information would forever be available via a Google search. Would you like that? Think before posting irresponsible, stupid s-i*.
I have never given any "biased" advice. In fact, I've suggested complaining to the company about any ESL writer who takes an order despite the request for a non-ESL or who otherwise really screws up an order so the company can address it and fire bad writers who compete with me for orders. The only defense I've always made on behalf of the company is about being called a "scam" because they are honest and about anything else that I'd know firsthand having been writing 50 - 70 papers for them every month since 2003. I do not defend the company categorically against any criticism from real customers, but mainly against totally false accusations from the idiots like stu4 who just make crap up because they can't hope to compete honestly against any large legitimate company.
stu4 21 | 856 ☆☆ Observer
In fact, I've suggested complaining to the company about any ESL writer who takes an order
Every ESL writer who try write essays in English language should be respected. They do the job well and bring money to legitimate US companies. Dont complain but get up early and compete on the global market of academic writers.

As usual, you're dishonest to the core in every respect: In this case, you deliberately cut off what you quoted from me to pretend I said something much different from what I said. You left out the rest of my sentence that appears below in its entirety, and, of course, you bolded the part about "taking an order" as though I suggested no ESL writer should ever take any order. :
Customers have every right to exclude ESL writers if that's their preference. If I placed an order and said "I don't want anybody who is not a native English speaker writing my paper" no ESL has a right to take that order and, as a customer, I'd have a valid complaint if any language sounds like it's obviously ESL. Nobody is criticising ESLs for working or for taking any work from any customer who has no problem with ESLs writing for him. I'm only talking about ESLs who ignore customers' specific requests for an American writer.
Frankly, ESL writers are absolutely no "competition" for me except to the extent they can grab orders off the same assignment boards. I routinely work all night and go to bed at 8:00 or 9:00 AM NY time. If anything, I miss out on more orders taken by other U.S. writers while I'm sleeping until 3:00 PM than on any orders taken by anybody in foreign time zones.
As always, my responses
to you are never actually meant
for you, much less in expectation of any intelligent response on point
from you. My responses to your posts are always meant for others, and just to highlight the perpetual stupidity of your posts.
stu4 21 | 856 ☆☆ Observer
FreelanceWriter
Its no your job judge hard working ESL writers who try much harder then you to write complex essays in the English language. How many languages do you know -> one? Try learn other language like Spanish and get to writing paper in spanish. Then we talk. For now your illiterate citizen with only one language. And you still make global errors.
If a customer prefers an American writer who can do the work relatively easily over an ESL who has to "work much harder then [sic]" I do on the same paper, that's up to the customer. Personally, if I had a choice of car mechanics between one who fixes Toyotas all the time and one who "has to work much harder" on the same job because he normally works only on Fords, I'd want the guy who does the work more easily than the one who has to struggle through it.
The only thing I'm "judging" is whether or not ESLs respect the rights of customers to determine for themselves whether or not they want any ESL writing their papers. I'd never even think of taking paper if the customer specified "only UK writers" and that's all I expect of any honest ESLs. Anybody reading this (besides you, of course) understands the difference between "judging" ESL's work and "judging" the ESL's respect for customers' specifications.
stu4 21 | 856 ☆☆ Observer
Guys who work on Toyota should know Japan language (original manuals is in Japanese if you dont know). You confirm new reason bilingual writers are better equipped to be professional essay writers then you are. For you only used Fords are left - so dont complain you are being outsmarted by hard working and more knowledge ESL writers.
My choice of manufacturers for the example was obviously (to anybody but you, of course) entirely arbitrary; make it Subaru and Saab. The point was simply that customers in any industry would prefer a professional for whom the job is relatively easy over someone for whom the exact same job is much more difficult.
The last thing I'm worried about is ever being "outsmarted" by ESLs or (especially) by you. If ESL work were that good, customers wouldn't be specifically requesting non-ESL writers and then screaming about the fact that their papers seem to have been written by ESLs who ignore their requests.
Why would any service resell a paper later on? Any good service should hand over the rights to the paper once it's been delivered. If I'm having a paper written for me, I expect it to become my property once I receive it.
WritersBeware
You obviously have no clue how the LAW works. "Handing over the rights" is illegal. Only FRAUDULENT, ILLEGAL sites do so.
Why is it illegal? Any why would a site be considered fraudulent if it chose to do so?
WritersBeware
Why is it illegal?
What is your level of education? That's a serious question.
It is illegal because there are laws that
make it illegal. It's a pretty basic concept. I have posted the laws in this forum many times.
Sites that offer to "transfer copyright" are fraudulent because they are willingly and knowingly enabling students to commit academic fraud. They are also automatically suspect in all other deceptive avenues commonly taken by the industry's scammers.
Got it. Why do the majority of writing-sites redistribute the papers they write at some point? Simply to make extra $? I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a site that will never re-distribute the paper I pay them to write.
PS - Are you trying to say you actually believe EVERY SINGLE paper writing company isn't knowingly enabling students to commit academic fraud? I guess you'll lie to defend your company, so there's no point in even asking you this. I know the real answer. You may be a snake, but you're not stupid.
WritersBeware
Are you trying to say you actually believe EVERY SINGLE paper writing company isn't knowingly enabling students to commit academic fraud?
I stated no such thing. Learn how to read.
I guess you'll lie to defend your company, so there's no point in even asking you this.
I have no company.
I know the real answer.
Clearly, you don't.
You may be a snake, but you're not stupid.
Well, you're a b**-h
and stupid.
MeoKhan 10 | 1357 ✏ ☆☆ Freelance Writer
I am sure this guy LynnFell85 is the same guy who came here a few week ago talking about the same stuff.
Looks like that. Maybe he changed account?
Paid $80 this past weekend for a simple 3-4 page MLA style essay from Writer Online.
I've never tried any of these sites and now I am extremely hesitant to ever try again. THE ENTIRE ESSAY WAS 100% PLAGIARIZED AND LOOKED LIKE A MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILD WROTE IT. The paper did not even flow and looked like an essay written in 10 minutes. I would not even call it "written" work because every single word was literally copied and pasted from online articles.
When I pay that kind of money, I expect some godd*amn effort. I'm almost tempted to get a job at Writer if I can get paid for copying and pasting complete bull s-i* and get paid for completing papers in 10 minutes or less.
WritersBeware
ZERO PROOF = ZERO CREDIBILITY
Either you are a complete liar or you are too stupid to have simply informed the company and received a free replacement.
What proof would you like smart*ss? I have it all. You think I really get my jollies off wasting time posting nonsense with you?
And I am in the middle of discussing my refund with them right now.
so in other words, essay paper is a legit site??:S
It's legit in the sense that people speak clear English and you can speak directly with the writer and support team. I am letting people know they certainly aren't perfect and order your paper far in advance so that you don't get stuck in the situation I am in. I am just hoping to get my refund because the paper I received was completely useless.
how was the paper useless?
Check my post above about what happened.
done..did you pass it through turnitin??or you handed the work and you failed?:s awww...am so sorry to hear that.. am also looking for a writer and a legit company as well...how is the refund going process going??hope you do get your money back though!
Listen how simple this was...I looked at the sources the writer used and found the paper copied word for word just within those articles.
How anyone could be this ignorant and getting paid for it is beyond me. Seriously, 5 minutes is all it took for me to see right through the bulls-i* work. The paper did not even flow correctly right from the beginning so I knew there was problems immediately.
stu4 21 | 856 ☆☆ Observer
I looked at the sources the writer used and found the paper copied word for word just within those articles.
Warning for these student who seek *assistance* from Freelance Writer and Pheelky here.
but i thought as long as direct quotes are taken and are referenced properly, then it won't be plagiarised, if it was, then you can dispute for a poor quality/plagiarised work and dissatisfication so that the work can be reassigned by a new writer and re-written.
so has your refund come through?will they give you your refund?
but i thought as long as direct quotes are taken and are referenced properly, then it won't be plagiarised
Correct.
This is not what happened with the essay I received. You cannot copy and paste parts of entire sources into a document and call that an original essay. Secondly, nothing was cited properly within the actual essay itself, regardless of the entire work being plagiarized. Only the works cited page had the proper MLA citation.
WritersBeware
No company can control when an independent writer decides-for whatever reason-to plagiarize. All the company can do is immediately fire the writer and try to make things right with the customer.