Advertising on here - is it possible?

I've just started my own freelance academic writing company. Can I advertise on here?

Translation: I don't have a clue what I'm doing, or how to do a little bit of basic research. Send me money now!

Well I've just started out so I'm investigating the possibilities for advertising

No, investigating would be reading the rules or the many threads in which it is clearly stated that you may NOT advertise here. Good businesses that last also start doing investigation before they start trying to do business.

Why sit and read countless threads when I can have an attitude-laden response like yours?

Exactly, You'd rather be a punk-a$$ little b**-h than put a little effort into your business. Customers, take note.

Advertise on face book pages. Many universities and college students interact on these pages

I feel like that could easily bring a lot of unwanted attention, especially from the intrepid university paper reporter who decides to do an investigative piece on this sort of thing. Plus, advertising on Facebook can be really expensive, especially for a start-up.

Why would someone necessarily have any "better luck" finding a legitimate writer over there when "Recommended Services" is nothing but a paid subscription to a list that's totally open to anybody who wants to pay $10/day (or whatever the price is) for inclusion on it? Let me guess: you paid to be listed there?

No, I don't pay to play. I also think you're confusing the "recommended services" tab with essayscam's ad space.

Essayscam.org has zero standards for its ad space, and has to be constantly embarrassed into pulling ads, some of which are bought by the same con-artists and hucksters the site helped to expose in the first place. I wouldn't be caught dead putting an ad there. You couldn't pay me to do it.

The "recommended services" tab appears to be a different, and much better-vetted, area of the site, and is occupied by established companies, not maverick writers or free-spending charlatans.

Nope. If you just click the little "i" information symbol right next to the words "Recommend your academic writing / editing service here!" on essaychat, you're directed right to an order form that offers inclusion on the list of "recommended services" for a fee of $120/month. There does not seem to be any verification process or any prohibition about using gmail or any other anonymous email. So, on what basis do you believe that entities that choose to pay for inclusion on that "recommended" list are any "better-vetted" than any of the entities that pay for ad space on this forum?

FW, you also claim you are an experienced, reliable, honest writer with a law degree, but one could argue these are just your personal and unverified claims...

Correct. My point is simply that for the price of $120/month I could say all those exact same things about myself in a paid listing as a "recommended service" with no more vetting than any of my statements here.

No-- you still don't know what I'm talking about. There are two recommended services, graduatewriter and customdissertations, that appear under the "recommended services" tab. FW, you peddle your services here and occasionally occupy the relatively un-vetted essayscam ad space. That's not what I was talking about, and is a whole different ball game (more like Essaychat, which is where you belong, and where you'd be, if this site weren't so riddled with loopholes).

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This is the link you just posted:


Inclusion on that list allows you to say whatever you want to say about yourself for the price of $700/year if you choose to leave the thread open to allow others to comment or $900/year if you choose to close the thread so that nobody can post any comments, as those two advertisers did. You've advised students that they would have "better luck" finding legitimate writers through the companies paying to be included in "Recommended Services" on EssayChat and on this forum in the thread to which you just linked and you've said that those advertisers are "better-vetted" than any freelance writers like me who are registered forum members here.

I'm asking you why it's a "better bet" to trust entities choosing to advertise through paid inclusion in either of those lists and what the basis is for your assertion that those entities are any "better-vetted" than registered forum members or those who purchase advertisement banners here? Why is that form of paid advertisement more acceptable to you than registered forum members who have chosen to advertise through their signatures in the exact way that the moderators of this forum have chosen to allow? At least with registered forum members, people can use the search function to check through years of posts by and about any writers who "peddle" their services permissibly right here.

It's a better bet because if you advertise up there at the top of the page, you're rubbing shoulders with the likes of academia-research.com, an industry pariah; critical spoof, an industry punchline, etc., etc. There hasn't been a legitimate company that's advertised up there yet, to my knowledge.

On the other hand, by going under "recommended services," you're rubbing shoulders with two sites generally reputed to be legit. What's the matter, couldn't afford it?

A wise person once said: if you lie down with trash, you smell like garbage.

What makes you think that the companies to which you refer as "pariahs" and "punchlines" couldn't simply pay the same $700 or $900 to be included in the list of "Recommended Services" if they wanted to? You've also said that the companies paying to be listed in Recommended Services are "better-vetted"; do you have any specific knowledge about how they're vetted and how the vetting process for them differs from the vetting process for other forms of advertising available here and/or on EssayChat?

I'm not your oracle, jughead. Who knows? Maybe they can't afford it, either.

Obviously, I'm not asking you because I consider you a valid source of information. I was strictly asking you to explain your basis and justification for advising readers (in Post #5) about how well or poorly advertisers on the different venues are vetted. You specifically said that some are "much better-vetted" than others. Based on your subsequent deflections and refusal to answer the question, I take it that you have absolutely no objective basis for your earlier statement. Thank you.

2 legit companies vs. a rush of 10+ scams. How is that not making sense to you? Oh, right, you were paying to be there on the scammers' side.

Newer readers of this forum should know that before "Editor75" reinvented himself here as some kind of champion for integrity in this industry, he used to brag about having self-published a how-to book about lying, cheating, and scamming his way through life and about cheating people out of money in various different industries, and that he often referred to gullible customers as "deserving" to be ripped off. All anybody has to do is type "Editor75" into the forum search function (don't forget to change the default from "Topic Titles" to "Messages") and review his posting history a little closer to 2010 than to 2015.

Of course, no review of his full posting history would be complete without all of his posts as "RustyIronChains" going back to 2009, in which he admitted (proudly at the time) to having re-sold essays over and over that weren't his to re-sell in the first place to customers who all thought that they were buying original custom-written work and in which he also blatantly defamed totally legit companies with whom he was competing for business. I'd also encourage anybody to do the same for my posting history going all the way back to October 2008, except in my case, they'll need to check only one User Name and they won't find any schizophrenic phony 180-degree reversal of persona from villain to vigilante. (In all cases, remember to change the default "Topic Titles" to "Messages.")


You make absolutely no sense. It's the same entity selling both forms of ads here, you fool. If you click on the EssayScam.org "Advertise Here" banner, you're directed to a payment processing screen to pay for your banner ad. If you click on the Essay Directory tab here on Essay Scam, you get directed to a page that has a "Sponsored Reviews" tab at the bottom. If you click that tab, you're directed to another very similar payment processing page that indicates that your paid post about yourself will appear within 48 hours right here on Essay Scam in the "Recommended Services" forum section of this website. In case you haven't figured out the obvious, Sherlock, both forms of advertisements are sold by Essay Scam because no "other" entity could possibly be selling thread space here and no other entity could possibly control the "Recommended Services" forum right here on this site where those self-written advertisement threads appear after they're purchased.

I'm just curious what your theory is about subscribers to banner ads on Essay Scam being un-vetted and subscribers to the paid Recommended Services listings (also on Essay Scam) being "much better-vetted" when they're all paying the same company for the listings. What's your theory? That they reject orders by some companies for one type of advertising on this site but then they accept advertising from those same companies for the other type of advertising available on this same site? Or maybe an "Only Scammers Check Out Here" and "Only Legit Companies Check Out Here" advertising payment confirmation button on the respective ad types?

I'm obviously not asking about your theory because I think you're some "oracle." I'm only asking rhetorically because your theory of differential reliability and "vetting" of the two different types of ads sold here by the same entity and appearing here on the same forum page is so patently ridiculous and/or to highlight the fact that you obviously just haven't figured out on your own that both of those types of ads are sold by Essay Scam.


I'm obviously not on anybody's "side" and I don't claim to know anything about any of the companies you've referred to as legit or about any of the companies you've referred to as scammers. I don't know why some companies choose to pay Essay Scam only for short-term banner ads while others pay Essay Scam for annual subscriptions that allow them to publish a (closed) thread about themselves in a pay-to-post-advertisements-and-whatever-else-you-want-to-say-about-yourself-for-one-year forum here called Recommended Services, although I imagine it's probably because of the relative cost. I know that was the reason that I only purchased a banner ad a few times. At the time, you ranted and raved about that (of course) just as you continually criticize me for using the signature feature here in the exact way permitted by this forum. None of that ever had anything to do with my writing or business practices, of course, but was motivated exclusively by your rage at having embarrassed yourself so badly about 3 years ago in an argument where you insisted that the drinking age should be lowered because drunk driving is a "skill" that should be learned early. Ever since then, you've justified your attacks against me by saying it's because I'm an "obtuse moron" or because you think I'm a "boring" writer, or because I choose to advertise here in permissible ways. Clients, other respected writers (like Professor Verb) and even the essay company owner who stiffed me out of what I was owed have all confirmed that I've always been a totally legitimate service provider and that my writing is "excellent" and you have no legitimate reason whatsoever to suggest otherwise, although you do it all the time strictly because of your very personal hatred for me.

Well, I do like to catch up on some light reading during the off-season, even if it is an extremely boring, rambling review full of sarcasto-quotes (sarcasto-quotes... for when you can't achieve your own tone). I notice that in the whole paranoid pamphlet you spent your valuable time typing, nowhere do you address my main point (that you cheaped out instead of spending the money to appear credible). The vetting speaks for itself. I mean, it's not my thing, but if you're going to pay to play, I say, go big. People dream of opening 5-star restaurants, not hot-dog carts.

Are Academic Paper Advertisers on this site legit?

There are people advertising on this site. Are these people legit?

Needhelpwriting, you're going to have to do the exact same research about anybody advertising here as you're going to have to do about anybody not advertising here. The fact that someone advertises here (or pays to be included in Recommended Services) probably doesn't mean anything (good or bad) other than that person or entity has chosen to pay to do so. I've advertised here on occasion, but so have some companies that have very bad reputations, from what I understand. Your first step should be to use the search function here, but you always have to change the default from "titles" to "messages"; otherwise, you'll only find threads mentioning your search term in the titles of threads. Even after your research, you should try out any service provider with a short project before ordering a longer project.

So you have just started your writing company and you want to get your profile out there. You are in luck because you can actually pay to advertise at this site. That is not to be confused with asking for a recommendation as most students often do here. You have a number of choices for your advertising needs here. You can either pay to advertise your company as a part of EssayDirectory or, you can pay to be listed as an independent writer under the "Writers / Services" section of EssayForum. It is just a question of how much you are willing to spend to become prominently advertised in the sections I mentioned. Even if you change your mind and you decide that you don't want to pay to advertise, simply being an active participant at this forum and proving that you can be trusted as an independent writer will be more than enough to gain you free advertising. The word of mouth advertising will come free with every satisfied client you deal with.

From what I have heard, it is possible to advertise on this forum. Provided you are willing to spend on it. The highlighted names, as can be seen in this thread, that has the highlighted term "FEATURED" alongside it means that a particular company or writer is paying for the privilege to advertise the company or independent writing services of the given company or writer. This is the closest to advertising as anyone will ever get at this forum. I can understand why, paid advertising tends to help keep the forum free of scammers and pretenders. Those sorts will never resort to paid advertising at a reputable forum because they would hate to part with their hard scammed money.

My friends who do pay to advertise here often use the Writers and Services section here. Lately though, they have been talking my ear off about how successful the EssayBrand advertising campaign of this forum is as well. It really helps them build their independent brand and gives them a venue to come across as a highly professional business person and academic writer. I don't pay for such services so I will have to take their word for it.

I'm a featured writer, but I still tell others to be careful when contacting anyone. Yes, I post here, and I've been a member for over a year, but no one here personally knows me. I'm an honest, hardworking writer, but any other writer is going to tell you the same thing. Don't just go on what someone says or doesn't say or whether they are "featured" or not. Have a genuine conversation. Discuss your project (or services if you're a writer) with them on more than just a surface level.

As for the other side of the coin (the success of being featured), I don't know. I only recently decided to try it, and I've never done something like this before, so we shall see. Either way, I enjoy interacting here and will continue to do so.

why do not you look for advertising when your skills become more than enough?

Hello, Pot...Meet Kettle.

@antoniagartosta for native English speakers, finding clients through advertising or other means will not be a problem. The skills with which to properly develop any research paper or essay is ingrained into us from grammar school. For the ESL writers, they should not try to advertise their writing services because their writing skills will never be enough. Nor will their grasp of the English language. Only writers with enough experience under their belts should dare to openly advertise their services.

I think you are an ESL writer who is most likely attached to a writing company. You will never understand what it takes to survive in the writing business because you do not deal with the kind of clients that native English writers deal with. Your company is most likely always in trouble because of you, the perfect example of the kind of writers that they employ. Don't bother with advertising here. You will not get any clients.

Since students tend to read the threads more than they pay attention to the banners and flashing advertisements on this site, it would be better if legitimate writers pay for their advertising. That is, they should pay to be FEATURED writers. That way students can have direct access to them after having read their posts and, the student is convinced that the writer meets his writing requirements. While the other methods of advertising here also work for some writers, it would be better if the writer pays for all the advertising methods available here, if he can afford to do so. That way the student can't miss the writer's advertising promotions. The writer's name would probably stick better to the student's mind with repeated exposure to the name or profile. Use whichever promotional tool you can afford to pay for that is available here.

While advertising at this forum has recently fallen silent for one reason or another, that is not to say that the company no longer accepts advertising in various forms. The FEATURED writer option is still available and works in terms of self promotion as there are still students who come to this forum when considering their writing options. There is also EssayChat and EssayDirectory where those who wish to start out in this business, even in the uncertain climate, can pay to be listed for the consideration of the students. While the trend is moving towards AI writing, there are still students who prefer the human touch when writing and these paid sections of this forum are usually the best place to find the legitimate writers in the business.