Essay Company is NOT a Scam when:

According to the three members of this forum (ie. allegedly the agents of a 'legitimate American company') a company is NOT a scam when:

1. Company hires ESL writers, claiming otherwise on their Employment page and other pages and is misleading visitors into believing they only hire native English speakers. At the same time, Company doesn't give clients a choice not to work with an ESL writer like many other legitimate companies do on an order form (I know I'm shooting myself in the foot with the statement about ESL writers, see below why, but this argument has been a source of many fights here so I had to refer to it).

2. Company falsely claims it only hires writers with at least Master's degree (when in fact they welcome any writer with a general college degree).

They claim it is NOT scam only because their own company has been caught doing that. It is astonishing considering the fact most clients would consider these practices as being misleading/dishonest/deceptive. Thoughts?

PS. Before anyone points out my language mistakes, I'm an ESL writer. I posted here a couple of years ago but forgot my password and the email I used is no longer valid. I have writing accounts with a couple of companies (not with the "legitimate" one because $10-$12 per page they offer for new writers is not worth my time). But I know another writer who has an account with them. I've been reading this forum on and off and noticed how deceptive, arrogant, and full of themselves the agents of the "legitimate American company" (WritersBeware, Pheelyks, FreelanceWriter) tend to be.

If you are the ones representing the culture of the organization, I am speechless. You need to grow up and realize few people buy your twisted arguments and arrogant comments.

It's funny, because we don't bring up the fact that we work for any company. You do that for us.

[quote-pheelyks]It's funny, because we don't bring up the fact that we work for any company. You do that for us. [/quote]
First sentence and false statement. But it is not surprising. Anyway, I don't have time arguing with someone who is lying straight-faced. You may refer to the (lack of) integrity of the organization I mentioned above. Good bye.

Go ahead and show me where I have ever identified a company I work for without being directly asked or "accused" of it.


Prove that I'm lying and I swear I will never again visit this forum.

Don't dodge the questions. If you want to contribute in this thread, refer to my points #1 and #2 above. Good bye.

"Phils," tell your mother to close her legs. That is all.

The culture of the organization speaks for itself.

The following statements (taken from: *********.com/employment.html) have been proven to be false and they deliberately mislead clients into placing an order. Instead of picking on my mother, think about a potential class action lawsuit.

Good bye.

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  False statements
  

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH, I'm sure that they are very scared of you.

Let's start the education process, shall we? OK!

1. The page from which you quoted that text is for potential, freelance writers. It is NOT for customers.
2. The text that you have quoted proves that the company's intentions are honest. (Congratulations on being a clueless idiot.)
3. No company can control the decline of a writer after he/she passes initial vetting and tests. All the company can do is fire the writer.

So, tell me-when did the company fire you?

WritersBeware is a clueless idiot.

1. The page is posted publically for all visitors. That means all visitors who visit the page (including potential clients) are intentionally and dishonestly fooled because the company lies about their REAL hiring procedures. It claims it only hires writers with Master's degrees but in fact it does not. It claims it only works with US/Canada/UK/Australia based writers, but this is another lie. When a company posts LIES on the page it should assume the page can also be visited by people who spot the lie.

2. The "intentions" are just propaganda of lies and deception.

3. The decline of a writer? What is this? Do you mean that a writer who supposedly has a Master's degree today "declines" into a writer with a College degree tomorrow? You take me and other writers for a fool?

WritersBeware company websites (now added on top of DND list) is the Enron or the Artur Andersen of essay business. LOLzz

Hahahahaha.... So very right

Jason it seems you know everything about this industry.... The truth is you are nothing

99% of the companies are SCAM plus negative marketing against each other is on the rise.

These days, it is safer to assume that any company is a scam until the client can prove that to be otherwise for himself / herself. Since it is extremely difficult, time consuming, and a waste of valuable writing time for the client to go through the investigation process before hiring the company, he should just do his best to investigate via the chat, email, and phone number (if provided by the site). It's really simple, if the grammar, punctuation, and sentence development in the chatroom or email conversation is faulty, then it is most likely a scam. If the accent is not American, British, or Australian when conversing other the phone, then its a scam.

These are the simplest ways to narrow down the "scam" consideration in terms of the company being considered. Or better yet, directly hire an independent writer instead. They are more open and willing to prove their trustworthiness and legitimacy in the business. As for the negative marketing, these scam companies actually hire writers to write negative articles about their competitors just so they can tear each other down. Their negative war of the words are even far worse than the fighting words that can be found in the threads here because the writers have no idea (just like on this site), who they are doing battle with.

Basically, a student will consider a company to be of the non-scamming type if the writers of the company deliver on the paper before or on the deadline every time an order is placed and, if the student consistently gets good grades for the papers done by the writers of that writing company. Students are typically easy to please when it comes to their demands.

As long as the paper is properly worded, follows the instructions provided, and passes the plagiarism test, he will be a happy camper. These are normally the reasons that a student will keep coming back to the same service and the same writer. If the student does not get the kind of service that is expected, then he is definitely going to be telling others that the company and its writers is a scam. It all boils down to delivery. Consistent service delivery = not a scam. Problematic client service = scam.

Exactly, and the word "scam" is widely overused and most often misused. It's the misuse that leads students to think that any little issue or error means the company or writer is a scammer. Then they run to forums like this and post all about it, putting a writer or company's reputation on the line having never really taken the time to resolve the issue maturely.

When I was a contract writer, I saw messages where customers would receive their order and instead of contacting the writer/company to explain an issue to seek resolution, they'd simply email something like "this is crap, give my money back." Like we're supposed to just say, "Oh, my bad, your money is refunded." It doesn't work that way. Let me know what you think is wrong and we'll go from there. BUT... then you do have the few who are courteous (aka they were raised with manners)... those who thank you for your work, even if they have revision request. Those are the customers who make it easier to deal with the rudeness of the others.

As a writer for essay companies, I never had any control over what other writers they hired or how they marketed themselves; generally, I never knew what those companies published on their customer-facing websites, because I never really had any reason to visit them. My only experience was taking as many orders from the assignment board as I could manage, completing them all on time and to the best of my ability, and, quite often, then taking more projects from the same customers when they specifically requested me.

@Write Review
For a writing firm serving 1,000 clients and attaining an impressive 99% satisfaction rate, half of the remaining 10 can tarnish the firm's reputation. There's little reprieve especially considering that satisfied clients are unlikely to visit online forums to defend the firm's reputation.

@AdvancedWriter This is precisely what I keep on saying. The reputation of a writing company is reliant upon the positive review of clients. It is hugely unfortunate that the companies cannot utilize their good work by having the satisfied clients promote their company. The business is too influenced by the "loudest shouts" method of negative publicity. The complaints seem to be more than the positive experiences because the people who receive good service tend to keep their mouths shut. They don't say thank you, they don't leave a good review here or anywhere else so there cannot really be an accurate measurement of whether or not the experiences are mostly negative, mostly positive, or just equal on both counts. Until the good is promoted alongside the bad, we cannot really tell if there are more scams or not in the business.

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What link? I don't see any on the page. Was it removed by the mods? I guess they did because you are listed as a company representative and as such, any posting you make is suspect as an advertisement and would be removed by the mods once they come across it.

Honestly, I feel that. It's a total minefield out there. I've been burned by so many "premium" essay services that it's actually ridiculous. Even the ones that seem legit-the ones that have great customer service and totally sell you on their "expertise"-usually end up being a headache or a straight-up scam.