Are you Compromizing academic honesty?

I think I landed on the wrong planet! How can you ask me such a question when a few posts above you asked me these two questions.

1. Are you simply angry that some of your colleagues who you know are worse at writing research articles than you are able to turn in exceptional work?

2. That such people are likely to complete their dissertations with distinction and go on to take significant positions in their respective fields?

Been there done that; means I have worked with relatively high level researchers on a global basis and never once was I angry at them, but instead I was there to marvel and admire their hard work and how they are changing our world, envious yes, angry NO.

On Question 2. I have patents that benefit even you today, and I have also been an executive in a few companies two of which could easily be in the Fortune Five as in 1, 2, 3, , and 5. Therefore, my interests in advanced education has nothing to do with what you are inferring and I have no desire to hold any private or government position, my hands are full, as it is.

I have worked and sat in panels with researchers form top research universities, not just here in the States, but in Europe, Iran and China. (Don't believe what you hear on the news, scientists especially in the sciences are connected in ways that would make, some foreign policy claims as ridiculous as giving Al Gore a Nobel Peace Price for,... err, pollution?).

You ask: is my Dissertation is in the field of Fractional Statistics and Quantum Mechanics? It will be as soon as I complete my comprehensive exams. If you think you can be on my editing panel (Summer 2011), then I am sure we can talk. But somehow some of the back and forth here, quite honestly appear to be at a much lower scholarly level than I expect. However we are human. I am not a behavioral scientist, but seems that when people are shielded by the veil of anonymity their behavior can be unpredictable.

So "Been There Done That" I thought would answer your questions without you morphing into another Sir Arthur Doyle character, or the reincarnation of Sherlock Holmes!

This is a paper-thin legal defense, and in any respect does not disprove the statement I made.


Still inaccurate, abusive and unprofessional. Dishonesty appears to be your MO.

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No dishonesty there. ^__^


So the researchers you assisted used the services of research paper mills? o.O


Nope, I asked if this was the problem that you wished to tackle in your dissertation:

Ummmmm, yes, that IS dishonest. I said specifically that it only applies to a full Ph. D dissertation, which, by the way, is the same policy WRT has for his companies. I will write every paper for an entire class, hell, for an entire undergraduate career, for someone. I just won't do an entire dissertation. Simple.

If the problem I wanted to tackle in my research could be expressed in one sentence, then the struggle would be over. My full prospectus/proposal and framework will be submitted in summer soon after I get the go ahead from my IRB. This discussion thread has given me some ideas actually. Perhaps I could complete the actual research and dissertation by myself (Wonky Syntax and all, some of which my chair and mentor can correct, unfortunately his English is worse than mine. But a mathematics and fractional statistics genius. I am sure I will be just fine.

Then the second part of my dissertation, an abridged and simplified publication, I would definitely approach you guys to write some of the paragraphs for public consumption. Till thenm I bid you all fare well.

I repeat: no dishonesty there.


WRT doesn't do model dissertations? Now that's a lie. ^_^

Wrong part of the dishonest statement.

The people who pay a writer to do all of the work often find themselves in a heap of trouble anyway. The research is usually unusable and they are out thousands of dollars or pounds because they were either "too busy" or "too lazy" to do the actual work themselves. Those who get usable dissertations find themselves at a disadvantage when having to defend their research because they have no idea how information got into the paper. Preparing them for the defense is not part of the deal when they hire a writer. It is the student himself who compromises academic honesty in this case. The writers, are just willing pawns in the game.

There is no academic honesty to be compromised. Students, regardless of their learning level, have always received help from someone during their academic career. Ever since the formalization of the educational system, students have had help from advanced learners, or people simply willing to help them through one form or another. Be it their parents, siblings, paid tutors, or hired writers, students will admit that they have always had academic help / support ever since they hit kindergarten. Does that compromise academic integrity? I do not think so, specially not in today's highly competitive academic world. There are just too many papers to complete, projects to submit, lectures to attend, and real life problems to deal with for them to not have any academic writing help. If we can help clear their plate while they try to accomplish other tasks, then we have done them a great service. It isn't like we are printing fake diplomas or certificates of completion for them. That would be a clear compromising of academic integrity.

I'm sorry, but that's a very silly argument and comparison. There's a huge difference between receiving academic "help" at home and handing in an essay (or anything else) actually written by your parents. What do you suppose would happen if a student expressed your exact reasoning and said to a professor: "Professor, this semester, I just had too many papers to complete, too many projects to submit, too many lectures to attend, and too many real life problems to deal with; so, I hope you don't mind that I paid someone to write this essay for me."? By your argument, the professor would have no problem with that. Is that really what you believe? Obviously, if someone submits a purchased essay for academic credit, that's the definition of academic dishonesty. My clients are adults who make their own decisions and I don't ask them how they intend to use my work, because it's really none of my business; I'm a writer, not an academic-honesty policeman. My clients own whatever they pay me to write and what they choose to do with it is entirely their concern. But let's not make silly arguments that handing in something written by someone else for academic credit "isn't" the very definition of academic dishonesty.

To each his own beliefs. Respect.

I don't even think that getting academic help is dishonest. It's obvious and necessary for many of them.

The only reason that academic help of the written kind is seen as dishonest is because someone is paid to write the paper for the student, upon which a grade is bestowed. The teacher supposedly has no idea that a student recieved academic help. something I find difficult to believe since there are times when the teachers themselves suggest that the student seek academic help in areas where a student does poorly. since the teacher is not clear about what help should be provided, a student should not be faulted for hiring an academic writer to assist him. Academic honesty is also not compromised, in my opinion when the teacher prods the student to seek academic help. Help does not come for free in the academic world for the most part.