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My dissertation writer wants my student data to access online references. Is it normal?


constan1988  2 | 5   Student
Nov 20, 2012 | #1
I'm trying to solve problems within my model dissertation with the writer I've just hired. Just wondering is it normal if he starts to ask me my student number and password so that he can have access to online reference resources through my school system? Personally I don't feel safe about doing that but can't figure out another option for him just yet (or just ask him to Google things he need?).

Anyone have similar experience? It may only apply to graduate students.

Thank you.
Writer_456  5 | 49   Freelance Writer
Nov 21, 2012 | #2
Many writers have direct access to all references databases they need. You do not have to give your student number/password if you do not want to. If your writer has no access and can't find required references, offer to download needed references for him.
MeoKhan  10 | 1357   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 21, 2012 | #3
Students give out personal information to their writers only when they feel safe; a writer does not usually have to ask for such information as access to institutional library/database, etc. A professional writer should have everything in place, i.e., how and where to find reliable sources from.
srandrews  11 | 138   Freelance Writer
Nov 21, 2012 | #4
As far as I know, there is not a whole lot of malicious stuff they could do with the log-in and password.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Nov 21, 2012 | #5
it's a matter of trust. do you trust the person/company you've hired to do your paper enough to give him/her/them your personal info? if you don't trust them, you probably shouldn't be using them in the first place.
Sullivan  - | 10   Freelance Writer
Nov 30, 2012 | #7
It depends on the company.
th63  - | 400  
Dec 02, 2012 | #8
Sometimes they request that you use an online library or website from their own university, and in that case they have to provide the writer a log-in name and password.

They would not be able to access it otherwise.
Bachmann  - | 2   Freelance Writer
Jun 27, 2014 | #9
It's normal but dangerous. You could be setting yourself up for potential blackmail...
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 27, 2014 | #10
If you're uncomfortable with giving out passwords, you can just download or cut and paste the articles and then send them to your writer.
dsk2127  - | 7   Student
Jun 30, 2014 | #11
Dont give your username and password as that might not be safe for you.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jun 30, 2014 | #12
I'd much rather have clients just send me the source material as files anyway, which also happens to protect them. All large institutions probably have the ability to determine what IP addresses accessed their systems and from where. In the event there's some reason for checking into it on their part, do you really want to have to explain why someone several hundred or several thousand miles away (and whose email address may also appear on sites frequented by writers and students looking for writers) was logging into their system using your credentials to download all the sources that eventually turned up on your project's Reference page?
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Jun 30, 2014 | #13
which also happens to protect them

On the other hand, Terms and Conditions should protect the client. But I personally don't know any freelance writer who would be professional (or honest?) enough to include a TOS when sending a link to pay for the service.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Jun 30, 2014 | #14
Extortion is a serious undercurrent in this industry. Garbage attracts its like, and then... attacks? I've never understood it, although one could imagine, given some customers, extortion as a sort of instant karma... but what a slippery slope! Lone wolves can get away with it better than companies, because of word of mouth, this site (corrupt and flawed as it is), etc. It shouldn't be part of any legitimate customer service experience.
thewritejob  - | 3   Freelance Writer
Jul 02, 2014 | #15
Best just send him the resources he needs or get him to sign an NDA to cover you, so he only uses for private means. I wouldn't leave it to Googling unless the writer knows great GOV and EDU sources for tackling your subject matter. Many academic writers have access to the databases you use but if you know your data is accurate, and the dissertation needs it, don't gamble as this is your academic achievement. Get all the facts to the writer or ensure he can find them.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jul 02, 2014 | #16
I personally don't know any freelance writer who would be professional (or honest?) enough to include a TOS when sending a link to pay for the service.

Your post implies that providing TOS necessarily means that an entity is "professional" and "honest" and that not providing TOS necessarily means that a freelance writer is unprofessional or dishonest.

Dissertation DataMeanwhile, companies in myriad industries (including this industry) publish TOS statements that they routinely violate or that are designed to provide nothing more than plausible deniability for uses of their products that are illegal but that are actually much more expected than unexpected. For example, bong and rolling paper manufacturers whose TOS say their products are only intended for tobacco and some essay companies whose TOS warn that their product is never to be submitted for academic credit but that routinely fill hundreds of orders every year whose specs say things like "Please make shoor my essay no so much good English...my teechar noes my English no so good!"

As you know, some essay companies have TOS that say they never resell their products but do so anyway. The same is obviously true of plagiarism-scanning sites that store (and sell) scanned files despite TOS that promise they don't store anything submitted for scanning. Other times, so-called "reputable" companies (again, in myriad industries) use their TOS very deliberately to bury consent clauses in ways specifically intended to obtain "consent" for various things from users without those users every really recognizing what they're consenting to by using the site.

In fact, just recently, I had a very frustrating experience where a forum to which I belong maintained an extensive TOS page one of whose provisions expressly promised to provide the entity's mailing address upon request. Instead of providing it to me upon my polite request, that entity simply changed the TOS the very next day and just deleted that particular provision in its entirety. So, it seems more accurate to say that some legitimate, professional, and honest companies (in many industries) maintain TOS and that some illegitimate, unprofessional, and dishonest companies (in many industries) also maintain published TOS.

Some freelancers may provide a FAQ page that provides all the same basic info and warranties as a traditional "TOS" statement. Finally, you definitely know at least one writer who's honest enough to alert customers to an entirely different and very real danger of sharing institutional credentials with writers that no writer who had any dishonest intentions for misusing that type of information would ever warn anybody about, especially very publicly. I believe it was in Post #12 above.
Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Sep 10, 2017 | #17
If the work requires him to check into your personal online account at the school, then yes, you have to risk giving him the information. However, if there is no need for him to have the information, then he is just setting himself up to be able to blackmail you in the future. Be cautious about whom you give your personal and student information to. Any independent writer who is dedicated to his job will have created accounts for themselves at Jstor, Questia, and other online libraries as part of their tools of the trade. He won't need to charge extra for that nor require any additional information from you. I had students before who required me to check into their school account for specific research information that the professor required. I always refused and asked them to send me screenshots of the required data instead. If the writer just wants to get the job done, without any ulterior motive, then he will not be asking you to present your personal or student information to him as part of the work process. He has other options that will allow him to respect and protect your privacy as a client.
ProfessorVerb  35 | 829   ☆☆   Freelance Writer
Sep 13, 2017 | #18
I'd much rather have clients just send me the source material as files anyway

I concur with the experts. Otherwise, it's fraud.
CharlotteAcademic  4 | 13  FEATURED   Freelance Writer
Jun 01, 2019 | #19
Hello!

This is actually a common request, especially for an editing project. Since the writer needs to access the same articles you used, it makes sense that s/he would need to access your university library. The other option would be for the writer to search for everything on his/her own, and while that might seem reasonable, sometimes it is not the most practical option; if s/he doesn't have access to the same databases you used, it wouldn't only be impractical, it would be impossible. Not all articles are available via Google.

The only other option would be for you to send the full text of all of the articles. You can send them through a transfer service, upload them to your Google drive and then share with the writer, or else zip them all into a folder. These options will take time on your part and could be quite cumbersome.

I have never heard of a writer misusing this privilege, so I would not worry overmuch. Your writer has nothing to gain by violating your trust. Plus, you can change your password as soon as the writer is done, so there won't be any way for him/her to access your school library ever again.

I hope this helps!
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jun 04, 2019 | #20
It might be a common request, but it's still risky for students.
Study Review  - | 254  
Jun 30, 2019 | #21
I have never heard of a writer misusing this privilege, so I would not worry overmuch.

Precisely. I have yet to meet an academic who took advantage of this. There's not much that can be done also. It does not really stun me when the students forget to censor out things in their application or attached files. While it may appear sketchy, there's really not much I can do about these information.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jun 30, 2019 | #22
Once clients know they can trust a writer, it's obviously no longer an issue, but all you have to do is search the term "blackmail" on this forum to understand why it can be risky for students to divulge that kind of information to someone they don't already know they can trust. Here's what your search will generate, and that's just threads with "blackmail" in the titles of threads, not in posts. (If you change the search from its default "titles" to "messages," you'll get a much longer list.)

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1. Oct 30, 2018 => Oct 30, 2018 - Essay Services / Being blackmail by essay Scam site IWORKBOXX [12]

2. May 23, 2018 => Nov 16, 2018 - General Talk / Extortion-blackmail email from a writer? [9]

3. May 22, 2018 => Aug 17, 2018 - Essay Services / Possible blackmail (paid for a coding assignment)! Advice needed! [12] 📎

4. Jan 24, 2018 => Aug 17, 2018 - General Talk / I was blackmailed by a freelance writer found via social media [9]

5. Oct 24, 2016 => Feb 17, 2017 - Essay Services / Help! myassignmenthelp.com.DND is trying to blackmail me! [9]

6. Apr 27, 2015 => Nov 22, 2018 - Essay Services / Scammed and blackmailed by a Kenyan writer @ etc. [16]

7. Jul 04, 2014 => Aug 19, 2014 - Essay Services / Scammed and Blackmailed by a writer from Africa [8]

8. Mar 10, 2014 => Aug 13, 2018 - General Talk / Blackmailed by writer [16]
Study Review  - | 254  
Jul 27, 2019 | #23
Once clients know they can trust a writer, it's obviously no longer an issue

I really hope that clients that got initially scammed would be able to utilize this site more the next time that they seek for academic writing services. There's so much necessary space for this.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Feb 15, 2020 | #24
Generally, the student volunteer their online library access codes to the writers, not the other way around. Most universities have an IP address tracker installed and would boot the writer out of the system even if he had the access codes because of the location of his IP address. As such, he would not be able to use the online library. He would have access to a part of your student data though, which could still be a dangerous thing. Don't submit your access codes to anybody. Instead, offer to send electronic copies of the material. You might trigger an investigation into your account should the system have an IP tracker, which could lead to the uncovering of your hiring a writer to do your paper. It's better to play safe. Don't do it.




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