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Email validation as a requirement for membership


WritersBeware  
Mar 03, 2010 | #1
Moderator:

I would like to request that you add email validation as a mandatory part of the sign-up process. You already have "Human Authorization" in place, so automated SPAM is not an issue.

We all know how this works. We've all done it 1,000 times for other sites. Basically, the new member will have to provide a valid email address. The system will automatically send a confirmation email. The new member will have to click on a link in that confirmation email in order to activate his/her account.

Complementary rules:

* If an email address already belongs to an existing member, it cannot be used to create a new account.

* If an email address has been associated with a banned account, it cannot be used to create a new account.

Thank you
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Mar 03, 2010 | #2
100% agreed
OddBall  - | 2  
Mar 04, 2010 | #3
I just joined this website, and I was somewhat surprised by the lack email conformation. However, anyone can make an email account; so I fail to see how it would help.
OP WritersBeware  
Mar 04, 2010 | #4
However, anyone can make an email account; so I fail to see how it would help.

I know how it would help, and I'm sure that the moderator understands, too.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 04, 2010 | #5
Good idea, maybe it will be done, eventually :

It looks like email validation is working now?
OP WritersBeware  
Mar 12, 2010 | #6
Just tested it. I think you're right. ;)

It wouldn't let me register a new account with an email address that is already in the system, so that's good. The only thing that I can't test is whether or not it will allow someone to register a new account using an email address that has-at any time-been associated with a banned account. I hope that it does NOT allow such.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Mar 12, 2010 | #7
I hope that it does NOT allow such.

I'm sure it does not, otherwise the system would not be too smart ;).
mikem  - | 8  
Jul 08, 2010 | #8
Great idea, in concept, but provides little actual effect in practice.

For instance, I currently own 3 domain names (non are commercial, all are personal in nature) in which I could setup a limitless number of email accounts, also including a "catch all" so that they don't have to be monitored separately when waiting for the "confirmation email". Also, domain limiting can't be used, because then only one person on gmail, one person on AOL, one person on Hotmail, etc., could ever join.

It does, however, appear to me that nearly everyone on this site is affiliated with an essay writing service. This, unfortunately, makes it extremely difficult to believe, or even attempt to believe, any post on this site. It seems impossible to truly know if any of these "services" are legit, or produce actual origin work, at all. You read one post, it sounds good, then someone else posts about how that poster is affiliated with site A and they are only trying to tarnish the reputation of site B, then poster A comes back and says the exact same dribble about poster B!
OP WritersBeware  
Jul 08, 2010 | #9
Mike, I (and probably every other legit member) already know what you posted. We're not trying to help the idiots and con-artists circumvent the rules and procedures.

This, unfortunately, makes it extremely difficult to believe, or even attempt to believe, any post on this site.

Well, I doubt that you have read my threads. I do not make any claims that I cannot substantiate with verifiable evidence and facts. Whether or not one chooses to "believe" the verifiable, third-party evidence in my threads/posts is irrelevant.
mikem  - | 8  
Jul 08, 2010 | #10
Well, I doubt that you have read my threads. I do not make any claims that I cannot substantiate with verifiable evidence and facts.

But you DO see my point, correct?

Also, I've been reading a lot of your past posts.
As well as FW's posts.

I didn't say that I believe everything written to be rubbish, just difficult.

nearly everyone

I did choose my words wisely. :)
DaveM  - | 30  
Jul 09, 2010 | #11
Valid Emailmikem. welcome to EssayScam message board.

Please read Disclaimer below. It state that many (most) posters here has 'commercial reasons for participating in the forum' and that posts should 'NOT be taken as advice or actual fact'. OK?

For examples, WritersBeware is well-known representative of a US essay site ********* - (look at past thread) so of course she have vested interest to tell lie about his competition and try to convincing new posters here that she can to be trust! Her thread are full of lie, slander, libel, abuse, crazy mad thing. Trust this poster if you wants, but the joke on you if you do.

WRT is also connect with a UK essay site. They do not reveal identity. Why? Coward? Liar? There must be reason. Why trust some person who do not reveal they name or company which work for? Not honest. Some poster (carly) reveal name and company - she honest - many here not. (Should be banning MOD!)

Poster here is not to be being trust because they have connected with essay site themselves - like most poster here.

Also EssayScam site run by US essay editing site too.

SO Mikem - BE CAREFUL! WRITER BEWARE! Never trust internet forum. Foreign student - do not believe this US scam site with liar tell lie on. You lose money if here you trust poster.
OP WritersBeware  
Jul 09, 2010 | #12
Her thread are full of lie, slander, libel, abuse, crazy mad thing.

Your head "are" full of mashed potatoes.

Why don't you do everyone a favor by quoting just ONE of my supposed "lies"? (BTW, idiot, slander is verbal. Please get an education and try again.)

DaveM = perfect example of a crooked, lying, ESL, foreign fraudster who doesn't like being exposed by my evidence
DaveM  - | 30  
Jul 09, 2010 | #13
WritersBeware - you are work for *********. What your name is? You accuse other here and lie and lie - and yet you such a weak coward - you hide! Like criminal!

Where you have 'exposed' anything? Where is 'evidence' that I am lying, crooked frauster.

Yoy are crooked, lying fraudster WritersBeware, and you is coward, and you is racist American liar scam woman!

yes I ESL. So how many language you speak, American idiot WriterBeware! Your English so bad it sound like ESL too!

You are famous liar on forum here - because you such rude pig! We all know you say you are big chief and know everything, but you just talk mashed potato! Your lie is not 'evidence' - it just dumb opinion of essay scam fraud who she is call WriterBeware!

Any student who trust idiot WriterBeware or EssayScam forum is idiot and fool too. WriterBeware is from essay site so tell lie all time on heres.

Now you are going insulting more and lie more like always you do like some mad fraud crooked potato head! You is boring.
OP WritersBeware  
Jul 09, 2010 | #14
Is that Klingon?

Can I get that example of ONE of my "lies"? Why is it so difficult for you to provide? Hmmmm.
DaveM  - | 30  
Jul 09, 2010 | #15
No. I do nothing WritersBeware ********* liar coward crooked fraudster say.

Most your many post is full of lie - because you are nasty pig woman and also because you is want to hurt your competitions! So now we are knowing ********* is scam. Thank you for this informations.

Why you not honest are tell person here who you is? Coward!

I speaking 7 languages - that 6 and half more than American potato head WriterBeware!

An example of just one lie from WriterBeware: "DaveM = perfect example of a crooked, lying, ESL, foreign fraudster who doesn't like being exposed by my evidence"

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCES TO PROVE THAT? Where? You lie! You have no evidences. you just insult and abuse poster because you mad ********* scam fraud coward potato head WriterBeware. Hmmmm.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jul 09, 2010 | #16
Pretending again, are we? Takes me back to your `I'm an Indian male living in Britain' claim :)
mikem  - | 8  
Jul 09, 2010 | #17
Wow... this is funny.

Davem... you don't have to worry about me EVER asking you to write an english paper for me. EVER.
DaveM  - | 30  
Jul 09, 2010 | #18
mikem - I don't want write your paper; did I say I am writer? No. Maybe you can to write your paper yourselves mikem? Not be cheat eh? Be honest and submitting own paper and not to cheat. Good idea huh? Not to cheat and be fraud student.

I just tell you truth of this forum site - and truth about the liar fraud crookster WriterBeware who is work for ********* (but too coward to tell name!) and WRT who also own essay site. They too much coward to tell name and company.

Some poster like Carly she tell her name and company, and other too. Not anti-ESL racist scam poster like coward liar WriterBeware and WRT.

Why you mikem believe some liar post lie on forum here? Are you idiot too? Believe anythings liar tell you? Hmmmm.

How many language you speak mikem? I am just ask... Perhaps you no laugh at person who know many language when you know one eh. Maybe when you are speak 7 language (like me) you can laugh at me eh...
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jul 09, 2010 | #19
MKM, is English one of those languages?
TMG2015  2 | 18   Company Representative
Aug 04, 2015 | #20

Regarding 4 post requirement for private forums



Howdy,

Just thought I'd point out that while I don't mind typing 4 posts to gain access to private forums (I understand it's to prove I'm not a robot and all that), it would definitely help if there were discussion threads that were worth contributing value-adding messages to. Virtually all of the threads available on the public forums are vapid and value-repellant.

Just a thought, thanks.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Aug 04, 2015 | #21
Hey y'all,

Just thought I'd let you know how much value you've added to the forum going through the desultory motions of getting to 4 posts. It's zero!

You'll be unhappy to know, though, that you have added to the general vapidity of this pit, especially with the above, which I am assuming is meant to be some sort of stimulating challenge.

Next time you have gotten what you wanted, snob, have the grace and charm to leave quietly.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 04, 2015 | #22
Virtually all of the threads available on the public forums are vapid and value-repellant.

Today, in the other message, you wrote: "I've been an unregistered observer on this site on and off for many years now." So, could you explain what made you stick to the website and forum for so many years ;)
TMG2015  2 | 18   Company Representative
Aug 04, 2015 | #23
My bad, I think I came off the wrong way. I meant that a lot of the posts in the public forum are people asking about the legitimacy of various essay websites, as contrasted with, say, people asking advice for technical advice (e.g., about pros/cons of being a freelance vs. company writer). I can add value on the latter category, but less so on the former. The quality of responses on the forum is generally high, and the fights/arguments are entertaining. I just didn't want to post for the sake of posting to meet the quota, if I could avoid it.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 04, 2015 | #24
I assume the minimum post requirement exists to prevent spammers or trolls from accessing the valuable information posted there without proper introduction ;)
TMG2015  2 | 18   Company Representative
Aug 05, 2015 | #25
Fair enough, I'm just starting to explore the site resources in full.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Nov 22, 2020 | #26
it would definitely help if there were discussion threads that were worth contributing value-adding messages to. Virtually all of the threads available on the public forums are vapid and value-repellant.

The powers that be at this forum have read this comment and actually acted upon it. They hope that creating value in the threads that have been posted can help to create a more peaceful and less intimidating forum where writers and students can interact, adding to each other's knowledge in the process. While this will be a difficult thing to accomplish, the people that own this forum hope that over time, they will succeed in reviving old threats that will be more interesting due to updated relevance for the students and writers.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 03, 2024 | #27
Complementary rules:

I see a problem with these complimentary requirements in that the admin and owner of this website would have to invest in new coding to make these safeguards happen. It is going to be costly for them to hire a coder and test the system, not to mention the upgrades they would have to do to the existing system to make these changes work. It is easier said than done. The forum, as far as I know does not have any actual sponsorships aside from Google Ads and the premium membership fees that are charged. So the company is barely making any money keeping this forum afloat. I believe that the current safety measures are good enough. The trolls will eventually leave anyway.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 06, 2024 | #28
One thing that wouldn't require any financial investment at all would be simply banning new IDs whose posts make it extremely obvious that they're nothing but newly created IDs of people who were just banned. For example, when someone gets banned for viciously trolling one specific forum member without the slightest provocation, whatsoever, and then a brand new ID suddenly pops up the same day or the very next day and immediately proceeds to continue trolling the same forum member just as viciously, and (sometimes) in the exact same thread in which the previous ID last posted before being banned for it, nobody really needs to be a trained detective or a rocket scientist to know what's really going on and that's it's the same antagonist using a VPN to create an endless list of new IDs for the sole purpose of continuing to do the exact same thing to the exact same person, which only detracts from the value of the entire forum to readers who come here for information, not drama and unprovoked one-sided vitriol.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 06, 2024 | #29
That's a good idea but, seeing how quiet and lacking in new interaction the forum is right now, maybe doing those things is not the owners or moderators priority at the moment. I think they should focus on their engagement numbers right now. We need more participants here to combat the AI trend and bring liveliness to the forum, even if it means having fights in threads like before. That at least proved writing abilities on the part of the writer member.
formerstudent  - | 54   Observer
Nov 08, 2024 | #30
I haven't noticed any trolls for years now, but there are still some notorious spammers.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 10, 2024 | #31
The spammers come out of Nigeria or Kenya. They are trying to pollute this forum with nonsense because they need the forum to shut down. Even in the age of AI, students still come here to look for information about actual companies and writers. Yes, not all the students are relying on AI at this point. They are becoming cognizant of the shortcomings of AI and need guidance when hiring writers. So I agree that we need to still be strict in terms of validating the members of this forum. Personally, I would rather than the admin block the IP's from Kenya and Nigeria since they are usually up to no good at this forum.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 11, 2024 | #32
They are becoming cognizant of the shortcomings of AI

Besides the terrible quality of AI academic writing, more and more students have been getting caught using AI on assignments that specifically prohibit the use of AI; and, lately, I've been seeing more and more assignment prompts with exactly such warnings. Professors have discovered a few tricks that enable them to confirm AI writing, and without the need for any kind of "scanner." Before coming to me, one new freshman client of mine got caught using AI on his second college essay, along with several classmates, by a very clever professor who came up with a completely novel detection method whose results are100% accurate and impossible to challenge, regardless of which AI program was used.
noted  8 | 2047 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Nov 13, 2024 | #33
If it oftentimes not even necessary to use an app to detect AI. Sometimes, it is just so obvious to the seasoned teachers and writers. The fact that AI tends to write in a more casual, rather than academic tone is always a dead giveaway. Then, there are the redundant statements that the program uses to meet the word count as specified by the student. it is really becoming easier and easier to spot the difference between a paper written by a human being, and one written by an AI. The problem, is that students are so lazy that they do not even want to edit the AI manufactured paper to give it a more academic feel.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 14, 2024 | #34
The problem for professors isn't that AI is difficult for them to detect; they obviously know it when they see it. The problem for them is the difference between knowing it and being able to prove it, objectively. In general, professors are always extremely careful about accusing students of cheating and/or other honor code violations, because there can be prohibitive consequences for them, if they can't substantiate their accusations. That's why they typically err very much on the safe side and often handle incidents that they knowof but can't prove only informally, such as through warnings or demands to redo assignments, but (intentionally) without any a formal accusation that could actually affect the student's record. However, the AI-detection method that I referenced provides incontrovertible objective proof and doesn't rely on any apps, either. It makes it completely impossible for anyone to argue that the content wasn't AI-generated.




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