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How some fools legitimized the essay industry scammers.


WBfool  1 | 4  
Apr 16, 2010 | #1
"WritersBeware" and your entourage --->> you are fools. In the last several years you've been trying to persuade the public that the 'foreign/fraudulent companies are scams because they charge less than the legit American companies.'

Look what they did - they now charge about the same (or more) and can scratch your point about them charging less. You have indirectly helped them become more legit. They now make more money than ever and probably laugh at you. Flashy sites help them mislead the public.

Keep it up and genuine American companies will have to charge less to be more competitive. Ironic, isn't it.

It's not my intention to personally attack you. I'm just stating the facts. Hopefully your actions can be reversed somehow. Ideas?
WritersBeware  
Apr 16, 2010 | #2
More off-topic, irrelevant garbage from a clueless simpleton . . . .

Sorry, but I don't interact with the uneducated. If I anticipated any sort of challenge in crushing the idiot's argument, I would engage.
OP WBfool  1 | 4  
Apr 16, 2010 | #3
This is not a challenge. You shoot before you think. You fail to predict long-term results of your own actions.
WritersBeware  
Apr 16, 2010 | #4
Why don't you enlighten me by first telling me what company you represent? Then, I will proceed to school you with the facts, "fool."
OP WBfool  1 | 4  
Apr 16, 2010 | #5
It doesn't matter. Just focus on my argument. You helped the scammers be where they are now and make them stronger than ever.
WritersBeware  
Apr 16, 2010 | #6
Listen, if you're going to be a COWARD and not reveal your company, take a hike. My response necessarily depends on your answer.
OP WBfool  1 | 4  
Apr 16, 2010 | #7
Shabnam, it's completely relevant what company I own.
WritersBeware  
Apr 16, 2010 | #8
F'ig coward.

It's perfectly relevant in that I will show you EXACTLY how everything I have done has benefitted your company, in particular. Since you are apparently too stupid to understand without assistance, I need you to name your company.

Thanks for revealing what a complete J-A you are, by the way. You like to use search engines to find completely irrelevant data, do you, dips-i*? You're just another fool who is regurgitating the same, baseless nonsense that previous dips-i*s have posted. Congratulations on being a world-class knuckle-dragger.
OP WBfool  1 | 4  
Apr 16, 2010 | #9
4 posts and you still haven't addressed my point.
WritersBeware  
Apr 16, 2010 | #10
Do you not understand simple English? That's probably why your company sucks. You're blaming me for your s-i*ty profits because you can't hack it.

It's perfectly relevant in that I will show you EXACTLY how everything I have done has benefited your company, in particular.

queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 24, 2015 | #11
More off-topic, irrelevant garbage from a clueless simpleton . . . .

Stop avoiding the OP's arguments; you helped fraudulent companies through ensuring that they charge the same as american companies.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Feb 24, 2015 | #12
1. The OP is you.

2. Only a simpleton like you would not understand the fact that a customer is much more likely to be willing to overlook poor quality when price is very low. The foreign fraudsters no longer benefit from that luxury. Thanks for acknowledging my effectiveness.

Have a splendid day, sweetie!
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 24, 2015 | #13
the fact that a customer is much more likely to be willing to overlook poor quality when price is very low.

Where is the magical evidence?

LegitimizedHave you ever entered the skulls of students to know that they'll overlook quality when prices are low?

The painful fact is: foreign companies won big time when they started charging higher prices.

Remember that thread of mine(which you avoided like plague) where i advised foreign websites to overcharge students?

Let me tell you some bitter truth: with the advice i gave out, it's now possible for a Pakistan fraudster to create a website that, in all form/characteristics, will pass off as a genuine american website. True or false?

The painful fact is this: You can do nothing about it and the foreign fraudster makes his tax-free profits. The US has got no way of making him pay taxes and, in his own country, well the money was a gift from overseas. Oh my !!!!.......i know it hurts.

I am told that the reason why essay writing is such a sweet venture to many foreign writers is that the income is tax free. Yeah, i know someone in India making $120k a month tax free.

Oh, i know you're wishing to be the WRS(World Revenue Service)

But, W2bit.chware, i also believe you are a decent tax-paying US citizen. It's so good to pay your dues and ensure that your government has enough $ to give out to Pakistan government in order to 'fight' terrorism.
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Feb 25, 2015 | #14
Where is the magical evidence?

It's common sense, sweetie-pants. It's also one of the fundamental principles of consumer behavior.

PS: I didn't read anything else in your post. I'm sure that you had a great time typing it, though. ;)
queen sheba  53 | 648 ☆☆   Observer
Feb 25, 2015 | #15
PS: I didn't read anything else in your post. I'm sure that you had a great time typing it, though. ;)

This, of course, has been your favorite excuse once you sense defeat. Everybody knows that. So just Nayik zeb
writers2beware  29 | 1712 ☆☆  
Feb 25, 2015 | #16
The voices in your head are deafening.

Thanks for acknowledging my effectiveness.

Smiley73  4 | 591 ☆☆  
Feb 17, 2018 | #17
I believe that pricing regulations just kicked into the academic outsourcing industry. That is why the costing for the papers have fallen into a somewhat uniform pricing scheme already. It isn't that the scam companies have forced the upright companies to follow their prices. Rather, it is that the scam companies have decided to charge the same price as the legitimate companies in an effort to make their offices seem more "legitimate" than the companies actually are. Their prices do not change the fact that they are focused on shortchanging the clients who come to them for service. It doesn't mean that the quality of their writers have improved, or that they have stopped hiring third rate writers. All it means is that they are becoming wise to the fact that the students are slowly coming to realize that the quality of the papers they receive are commensurate to the price they are willing to pay for it. So they have brought their prices up to a similar level as the legitimate companies. The legitimate companies have no need to lower their prices. Their clients know that they are paying for quality work. Just like any commercial company, the legitimate ones offer discounts to privileged clients or on a seasonal basis in order to draw more money in. It doesn't represent anything but a commercial campaign to increase sales.
Write Review  1 | 546 ☆☆  
Jul 17, 2018 | #18
There is no such thing as a uniform pricing from companies or individual writers in this industry. The price will still depend upon what the company / writer wishes to charge the client. The same considerations for pricing exist as the basis for the charges. It all depends upon how greedy and hungry for money a company / writer is. They can opt to charge to the heavens if they wish to or, they can charge rock bottom prices in an effort to snare clients. The pricing of the paper is something that cannot be predicted. This is something that is done on an individual basis / per client basis owing to the requirements of the task.

This is a gray area industry. Do not expect uniformity in pricing, do not expect discounts of the same kind per company / writer. There are no rules here except to deliver a well developed and usable paper to the student. That is what the student is paying for and that is the basis of the pricing offered to the student.
writer4life  3 | 297  FEATURED   Freelance Writer
Aug 16, 2018 | #19
There is no such thing as a uniform pricing.

While there may be an average per page price among some companies and freelancers, the pricing is set by the respective company or writer. Sure, some companies may adjust pricing to be more competitive, but for the most part, it will depend on the company/writer you select and the work involved in your project.

When I price projects, I look at more than just the number of pages needed. I look at the information available, the complexity of the project, and other factors. Certainly, the scum companies play around with low pricing and higher pricing to give customers a feeling of "getting a good deal" or "if it costs more, it but be better quality." It really depends on the company, their quality, and their customer service as to whether the price they are asking is worth it.

Personally, I provide the best quality I can whether I'm working on an easy (average priced) or hard project (priced slightly higher). But these are just my preferences and policies... other writers will differ.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jul 19, 2020 | #20
I think it is important to revive this thread in light of how the Covid-19 pandemic has affected the academic writing field. I will admit that prior to the epidemic, the rates per page were constantly on the upswing, and the students could afford it. These days, the prices have been on the downtrend. Money is tight all around and the students have been affected by it as well. Their parents have had to tighten their belts because they have either been retrenched, furloughed, shuttered their businesses, or opened their business part-time. Whatever the reason, if the parents have a tight budget, the students can't spend the way they used to.

These days, it no longer matters if the company is in the 3rd world, in the first world, a legit company, or a shady one. Everyone is feeling the pinch, price adjustments are made to make the service more affordable. So, the industry scammers, they are also affected by the worldwide recession. Does that add to their legitimacy as well? Nope, but, it does make them experience equal business pans to that of the legitimate industry participants.
noted  8 | 2042 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Aug 21, 2025 | #21
Maybe we can update this discussion with a more appropriate topic How should a writer price his work these days? Considering that Ai is the most common choice, the default choice for most students, when it comes to writing their papers. How would a human writer price his bid so that the student would choose him over a free or paid AI service? Let's sell the students on human writing with legitimate and fair pricing, without any fear of blackmail in the future.
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FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Aug 23, 2025 | #22
How would a human writer price his bid so that the student would choose him over a free or paid AI service?

I haven't changed my pricing at all, because I'm not actually competing with AI for business. Students who use AI for their essays have already made the decision that they'd rather just get C- essays for free than pay (any amount) for better results; and they're not comparing the prices of any human writers. They may have also figured that AI essays are comparable to really bad human writers who would also probably deliver C- work; so if they're satisfied with a C-, they might as well get their C- essays for free. So, it's really only writers who are unqualified to do this work well in the first place who might be competing with AI, because their product is comparable to the work generated by AI programs.

Conversely, students who want high-quality work that's likely to be an A are in the exact same position as they were before AI became a thing: they've never been interested in C- work from bargain-priced writing services, because they're willing to pay what highly experienced exceptionally good writers charge for projects of the highest quality. These are the same clients who may have tried out ChatGPT and immediately realized that current versions of AI aren't viable options for good essays and that if they want high marks, their only real option is the same as it's been for decades: to pay the best and most experienced independent writers in this industry the market rate for the best work available.




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