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WritersBeware  
Jun 15, 2007 | #41
You're quite right--you owe ME nothing. However, you posted strong accusations in a PUBLIC forum. You didn't send the accusations in a private message to me, personally. Therefore, I suspect that if you do not provide evidence, your bogus accusations will be removed and you will be banned because the owners of this site can't be held responsible for your libelous statements.
nom_de_plume  - | 40  
Jun 15, 2007 | #42
Major
My post:

District Judge after investigation found: the website (xx) posted more than 110 "complaints" from consumers. Investigation proved that only 11 of these postings were actually from customers. The balance of 99 reports was made-up by members of xx staff

I was referring to the ripoff case. The site owner was charged inter alia, with libel.
You tell me written sources---News ? that and the copies of court records.
I was never against posting legitimate complaints here.
One case, a man was sent to prison for 23 years for libel--blogger.
Another case, a woman was awarded more than 20 million dollars. She was defamed in a message forum.

libelous

as if you know libel! You have been posting hyperlinks--read court cases on that.

I can show you how libel is prosecuted in court--anytime from now.

Ciao.
WritersBeware  
Jun 15, 2007 | #43
You made accusations about me. Where's your proof?
nom_de_plume  - | 40  
Jun 16, 2007 | #44
FAT proof in Ca. LOL

The origin: my post:
"What about your posts?

Look up the meaning of speculation and while you are at it-look up the meaning of detractor too. It is one of those labels you gave a poster here.

What do you know about evidence?

Quoting: WritersBeware, Post #38
It's pretty clear to me that Timmy works for someone who doesn't like ********* very much, or Timmy owns a competing site himself. At least other posters here provide some evidence if they make strong accusations.

----argumentum ad hominem, a fallacy of logical reasoning.

Enjoy your 'reviews'"


Your reply:
"Hey smartass, I don't need to look anything up. Do you think you are intelligent because you can type Latin phrases? Give me a break.

Show me ONE claim that I have made that isn't verifiable as fact"


You also said: "If you want to accuse me of posting things that are not truthful or verifiable, why don't you be more specific?"

Your ignorance is terribly pathetic. Your reply is not even relevant to the foreign words. Now you twist everything and claim proof to the strong accusations?

Utterly pathetic. Educate yourself about argumentum ad hominem. Not truthful or verifiable and argumentum ad hominem are two different matters--Inform and educate yourself-- Perfect evidence of how careless you are in concluding. Ignorance is the greatest sin.


You said:
"However, you posted strong accusations in a PUBLIC forum. You didn't send the accusations in a private message to me, personally. Therefore, I suspect that if you do not provide evidence, your bogus accusations will be removed and you will be banned because the owners of this site can't be held responsible for your libelous statements."

Bogus accusations? You do not use 'bogus' to modify accusations-Terribly pathetic. Your fat cells have affected how your mind process information and thoughts.
Acting Moderator? Argumentum ad bacculum-another fallacy of logical reasoning.
Owners of the site responsible for my alleged statements?-Read jurisprudence-your statements show ignorance. A person with a certain degree of intelligence would laugh at your statements. I do not do charity lectures.

You claim I am a 'nobody' ? Whatever 'bread crumbs' you are receiving to make you survive life is not even enough to educate someone to obtain one of the degrees I have earned. So further, sayeth naught!

You simply are not competent enough to intelligently discuss matters with me, so why should I waste my time on you here.
You simply do not know what you are talking about. Go on with your task of of bullying and bossing people around, Amy resurrected. Go on labeling posters 'idiot savants, nobodies, fraudsters and bogus." Definitely you do not have over 20 million dollars for damages but you have 20 years of life that you can spend in jail.

Between your posts and my posts, people will know who is educated and who is not.

Go on a diet.

WritersBeware  
Jun 16, 2007 | #45
"Bogus" is an adjective. "Accusations" is a noun. You need some remedial English lessons.

You are an all-star idiot; the sad part is that you actually believe that your grammar and punctuation are correct. What joke of a school awarded YOU a degree?

You refer to me as "Amy" and as "fat"--neither of which are true--yet you have no problem leading people to believe each is a fact.

Anyone who reads these posts recognizes the legitimate writer. Guess what? It's NOT you.
nom_de_plume  - | 40  
Jun 16, 2007 | #46
Bogus-obsolete not genuine : counterfeit
Accusation-charge of wrongdoing
An adjective is a modifier.
And you did not get it. How shallow is your mind. I will spell it out for you:

They don't go together. You sound like a trying hard pseudo solicitor.


What joke of a school awarded YOU a degree?

Degrees in the best universities----while you got yours from the street. That is, if you call yours, a degree. LOL.

You refer to me as "Amy" and as "fat"--neither of which are true--yet you have no problem leading people to believe each is a fact.

Poor envious you! People have independent minds.

Anyone who reads these posts recognizes the legitimate writer. Guess what? It's NOT you.

By YOUR standards? LOL. Do your 'reviews' well so that you can have a better life than the miserable one you may have now.
Now, I think you have taken so much of my play time. I was just amused talking TO an ill-bred and ill-educated creature like you. Your kind does not exist in my circles.

Try a liposuction that is after you save every penny you earn. LOL


Goodluck in the much anticipated subpoena.
WritersBeware  
Jun 16, 2007 | #47
So, your position is that "bogus accusations" is incorrect. I can't believe the level to which your idiocy has risen. Can someone else please explain to this self-absorbed, delusional dope that he is incorrect? Dylan, are you around?
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #48
Whether ********* is a fraud or not is up to the customer to decide. What I can tell you, is that if you do a search on google, you will find many disgruntled customers who complained about the fact that ********* was threatening to sue and contact their school administrators if they did not remove their postings from the respective board or blog. I think that's pretty disgusting. I also plugged amy1981 or just amy with ********* on a search enginge and found the she is either a very loyal customer or an employee of *********. People have the right to complain about a service without being threatened. I'm sure someone from ********* will e-mail me and threaten to sue for libel but please don't bother as I will not respond to your empty threats.

Since were speculating, maybe we can say that you work for *********. If that's the case then were not really recieving an objective response.
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2007 | #49
Where's your proof, Sloth? If you don't have any proof to support your "speculation," just shut up. I post PROOF to support everything I claim. You're not in my league, kid.

By the way, when a company is online for nearly a decade, complaints are part of the package. You don't think Apple, Sears, Ford, Nordstrom, Tiffany, etc. get complaints and deal with lawsuits? Pull your head out of the gutter!
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #50
Oh my! Aren't we feeling a bit threatened? Name calling and aggressive language only makes you look like an imbasul. If anyone would like to do a simple search, on a major search engine they would find that my claims are valid. Oh, by the way, Which league are you talking about? The I'll threaten to sue and call your school league?
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2007 | #51
You are obviously one of the "Idiot All-Stars." Try a spell-checker on "imbasul." (How appropriate....)

Would you like me to show you thousands of complaints against major companies with sterling reputations? There are bad customers, just as there are bad businesses. You can't just come on here and make stupid accusations without proof!

Also, the site from which you got the OLD information is owned by a convicted criminal who makes up bogus complaints himself in order to extort money from business owners:

bad-business-rip-off.com
goodbusinessbureau.com
board.hostingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=1315&pid=2365&st=0&

That site is anything but a legitimate resource of information.
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #52
You don't think Apple, Sears, Ford, Nordstrom, Tiffany, etc. get complaints and deal with lawsuits?

Talk about not being in the same league. You're comparison is dismal at best.
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2007 | #53
Dude, you don't even make sense. Call it a day.

Put up, or shut up!
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #54
It seems you have a problem with reading and comprehension. Please ask someone to help make sense of my posts. Have a cheerful day mr. big leaguer!
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2007 | #55
Stop playing games and changing the subject.

If you do not provide evidence to support your serious accusations, I will request that you be banned from this site. There is no place here for baseless, unsupported accusations. There are already enough essaywriters.net cronies here.
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #56
More name calling.....This conversation is officially over as I will not communicate with a person who responds in such a vulgar manner. That means were done, Fanito, adios.
WritersBeware  
Jun 20, 2007 | #57
Thought so....
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 20, 2007 | #58
Has anyone checked out this site? ripoffreport.

I know writers beware will tell you that its a fraudulent site by posting website address which slander that site but make what you will out of it. I found it very interesting myself.
WritersBeware  
Jun 21, 2007 | #59
First of all, kid, "slander" is verbal untruth, so get your terminology in-check.

Secondly, Magedson already sued (unsuccessfully) the sites for libel and a Federal judge already RULED that the sites that you ignorantly claim are "slandering" ripoffreport are NOT libeling and should REMAIN ONLINE.

Thirdly, "I" didn't make up the EVIDENCE (not a word in your vocabulary) against Ed Magedson and Ripoffreport. The guy's arrests are publich record, as are the plethora of current and past lawsuits agsint him.
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 21, 2007 | #60
[quote=WritersBeware, Post #66 ]Thirdly, "I" didn't make up the EVIDENCE (not a word in your vocabulary) against Ed Magedson and Ripoffreport. The guy's arrests are publich record, as are the plethora of current and past lawsuits agsint him.[/quote

Is his website still up? Yes! Do you have proof that the most recent reviews are not true? I doubt it. By the way, why are you so vested in this issue? Are you just a loyal customer? I highly doubt that as well.
WritersBeware  
Jun 21, 2007 | #61
By the way, why are you so vested in this issue? Are you just a loyal customer? I highly doubt that as well.

Who the hell are YOU? You're the one who came in here making accusations that you can't prove!
essayslueth  - | 14  
Jun 27, 2007 | #62
I see that you are really taking it quite personally. I've substantiated my comments on this board. You have just continued to be rude and offensive. It's quite clear to me or anyone else reading these messages that you are an employee. Good Job!!

Quoting: Timmy00, Post #28 At essayfraud its forbidden to talk about *********.com :) Thread will be deleted in no time by *aheem* *aheem* :D

This is very true. I posted a comment about them a few weeks ago and it was immediately removed.
WritersBeware  
Jun 27, 2007 | #63
I've also submitted several posts there that have been removed. Everything is a conspiracy to you, hah? Is ********* or essay fraud in league with the CIA too? Granted, I don't think mine deserved being removed, but I'm sure yours contained complete crap with no proof, just like all of your posts here. Let me guess, you posted something like, "********* owns essayfraud and there was no moon landing"?

Quoting: essayslueth, Post #69 You have just continued to be rude and offensive. It's quite clear to me or anyone else reading these messages that you are an employee.

That's your justification for all the false accusations? I don't like frauds like you with make serious accusations without any proof whatsoever, so I must be working with the sites that are on your witchhunt list?

Hey moderator, maybe it's time to immediately delete all accusations from all posters that do not contain evidence? This forum has no credibility because all these essay mill hacks just keep posting whatever crap they like without proof. There has to be a line. Just my 2c.
em485  - | 34  
Jun 28, 2007 | #64
Hurting your group already? and doing damage control. You want it deleted because you stand to be prejudiced by truth.
Delete! that would be a violation of freedom of expression and the disclaimer. How will that look like when this site is suppose to be 'neutral' you are asking this site to act as judge and pass upon evidence-smells like liability to me.

Read the disclaimer lmao! Evidence-ah evidence and proof and you call your concrete evidence from a cut-and-paste system---evidence!

This site may have lost its credibility because of its own conduct and that of your group.

This is very true. I posted a comment about them a few weeks ago and it was immediately removed.

Essaysleuth, I believe what you say! Someone sent me evidence--a screenshot with statement under oath of a poster whose post was edited NOT BY HIM.

FACT: there is no edit feature (for posters) in that forum.
There is proof--screenshots that posts in this forum are also 'altered.'

Abandon ship! sinking . . .
(--screenshots of these taken and observers looking)
WritersBeware  
Jun 28, 2007 | #65
em485, you are plain retarded. Your wording doesn't even make sense. I "stand to be prejudiced by truth"? What the heck does that mean? Look, I know you are ESL, but please try to at least be conherent when you're trying to insult me.

First of all, what happened to your promise to not come back? You're a proven liar.

Second of all, what the heck does a screen shot of SOMEONE ELSE'S post have to do with me or the subject matter of this forum? Nothing. And if you have screenshots, go ahead and post them here! Who cares? I'd love to see them! They're meaningless, irrelevant, and off-topic anyway, just like the rest of your arguments.

Thirdly, stop posting crap and answer my question. Why does EssayWriters.net tell the public in different venues that the company was born in 1995, 1997, AND 2002? This is my THIRD TIME asking this question, and none of the EssayWriters.net's "supporters" have answered. Will you ignore the question for a FOURTH time?

Lastly, I suggested that the moderator delete posts from ANYONE who accuses ANYONE else of ANYTHING without evidence. "Freedom of expression" does NOT grant one the right to defame and accuse without evidence. I don't know the country in which you live, but that's not how we do things here in America. Do you notice that when I make an accusation or suggestion, I include links from legitimate sources? Where are YOUR links to legitimate sources? I'm not surprised that you have a problem with my proposed policy of deleting all accusations that are not accompanied by evidence, since you'll never be able to post anything. LOL! I, on the other hand, will continue to post facts that anyone can verify.
em485  - | 34  
Jun 28, 2007 | #66
proven liar because I came back?--it is my prerogative.

double standards! while you and your group can call companies and people as fraud, scam and shills--anyone who states the truth but inconsistent with your interests--you invoke defamation. lmao

your legitimate sources? lmao!
you are asking the moderator to decide on evidence? lmao
sink with the ship!

(screenshots taken and observers watching)
Ps2  1 | 83  
Jun 28, 2007 | #67
Nom De Plume aka Em485.......I m laughing my A** off seeing ur childish attitude :D:D:D:D:D:D.........but hey, u need to go to the bedlam, if u cant let me know i can invite them to take u away :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D......c, the bottom line for u to know is, no matter wat u try or wat arguement u try to bring in :D:D:D:D:D, essaywriters.net SCAM is a SCAM and its affliates are also SCAM such as Bestessays.com, SuperiorPapers.com, Dreamessays.com, DissertationsExperts.com, RushEssays.com, BestTermPaper.com, Essay-Paper.net, UniversalResearch.net, Killer-content.com.......Screenshots? :D:D:D:D:D I wish i could show the reps of ur company such as maggie, margie, tracy and xyz some real shots after which theyll forget the screen shots..... :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D....jokes apart, no matter wat u try, every time u message here and u make me more keen in dragging u in deep s**t :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
WritersBeware  
Jun 28, 2007 | #68
FIFTH TIME:

"Why does EssayWriters.net tell the public in different venues that the company was born in 1995, 1997, AND 2002?"
Ps2  1 | 83  
Jun 28, 2007 | #69
Nom De Plume aka Em485.......all of us want to see the answer not ur s**ty stuff u write without any proof......we want the damn answer, if u dont answer us to this question, we can take u to hell...........n literally believe me when i say something i really do it.........
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jun 17, 2021 | #70
is this true or not?

Just like all businesses, there is the public . statement, known to everyone here, and the private objective, known only to the circle of trust. We know only what the mods and owners want us to know. Anything beyond that is on a need to know basis. There is no point to asking these questions.
noted  8 | 2052 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jun 30, 2021 | #71
The OP is asking a question that, I believe, nobody here is equipped to answer. Was the site set up asa front to effectively attack the competition? I have not seen any evidence of that so far. I sincerely doubt that the people who setup this forum would come out to explain their intentions. I don't think it works that way. As users, we take the purpose of this forum at face value. Afterall, this isn't the only forum on the net with the purpose of unmasking criminal writing companies and writers.
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