Essayscam - heated debate: are their intentions honorable?

As some of you know I was locked in a heated debate with a member of this group who was calling a company criminals without any evidence at all. My posts contained truth and proof which exonerated the company in question. Whereas her arguments contained no proof and were often the same four pieces of her "evidence" twisted and displayed in differing context.

This member's MO is to turn to name calling whenever she'd lose ground with her unfounded claims. I have been silenced and the thread in question has been closed. Granted I was for the most part done with the discussion she still continued to attempt to blast my intentions and character with the same lies and twisted half-truths she used to condemn the company in question.

When you quiet the free flow of ideas and speech you are in effect exercising censorship. There's only one reason I could think of to employ censorship under these conditions. I have spoken nothing but the truth but she lied on more than one occassion.

Now it could be a "glitch" in the system, and I would assume so were it not for the fact that one of my supporters couldn't post either. I've asserted that Amy's desperate fight to defend her lies seemed a bit suspect. I wonder where her money comes from. The competition? This site? Other sources with vested interests in the colapse of overseas companies of this nature? Sources I've yet considered? I'm not saying essayscams is up to no good all I am saying is something is fishy here. Doesn't it seem odd to you that a defender of what they stand against was silenced? Doesn't it seem odd that the defender of what they stand for is allowed to continue to run wild to spread more lies and distorted facts?

Lots of threads get closed when they just turn into an argument between two people - letting them run and run puts other people off posting.

I don't know anything about the site admins but it is their site so I guess they can allow or disallow whatever they want. If you don't like the way they admin their site, then set up your own site or a blog or whatever :)

Agree.

The forum serves as a means for customers and writers to voice out their experiences with writing companies. It allows us to inform others about the workings of a particular writing company that refuses to address writers' complaints of unfairness. Sometimes a forum like this compels reps from companies in question to answer and prove that the reports typed here are false. However, they should do so by not assuming another identity lest they be banned :-)

I see once again that it's strictly verboten to mention any company names around here. As I said, the people concerned know very well that I'm telling the truth.

This is a site called Essay Scam, but you are not allowed to mention certain websites.

So....what's the point of this place again? If this is a message board owned and operated by a company within the industry...then once again...what's the point? Why have a watchdog website owned by a company within the industry (makes it for sure biased) and not allow certain names to be spoken (makes it for sure lacking in transparency).

What if all essay companies began to demand their inclusion into the DND list? This entire forum would be *****

Can anybody explain why this forum is here? Why not transfer the forum to an independent person that will have no biases or drawbacks? This would allow for a free exchange of ideas without the threat of lawsuits.

Then disappointed clients would go to sites like ripoffreport or similar which allow libel without reasonable recourse and post their complaints there. They allow libel because they have a team of full-time lawyers who protect them.


If libel is posted, it doesn't matter who owns the forum because the offending party has the right to threat of lawsuits or subpoenas. An "independent person" would be much more prone to making inside / unfair deals with other companies because he or she would not be considered a competitor and would not be subject to the Lehman Act (for example). I'm sure the owners of this forum would benefit (financially) much more if they sold it to an "independent party." Maybe that's what they should do (hint hint ;).

They would certainly not sell it to anyone. Everyone knows it. Secondly, there's no harm if this forum belongs to a company operative in the essay writing industry. Every business organization has a right to employ different strategies.

Now the matter of "independent party". Extant research suggests that there is NO "independent party" in a matter: either the party is with you or NOT with you. Today, it is more a matter of taking a standpoint on an issue and acknowledging your position on that point.

Viewed from this angle, it is certain that the parent company of this forum has a number of ends to meet. This, however, will not, probably, be acknowledged.

I have named two companies that cheated me, as you know very well, although of course we are not permitted to use their names. You are affiliated with one of them by your own admission, so can hardly claim be be a neutral and objective party here.

What admission? EVERT SINGLE member of this forum knows that I am NOT affiliated with any companies whatsoever. Secondly, you did make a mention of this and that company. It doesn't really put you in a position to storm us with your self-pity accounts that end with you being the good guy winning all the furious battle. So, please spare us from this gibberish.

That's a lie.

Prove it. Where is evidence?

You were always thick as thieves with WB, Pheel-up and the gang from SNR/DND, always quick to back them up when one lied and the other swore to it.

Where are they now, huh?

Meo, yours is the only gibberish one can detect here. Reality check: you are simply not qualified to write in English. As for th's comments, there's this little thing called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. As Churchill once told a member of the opposing Labour Party, (paraphrase), "I may disagree with every syllable uttered by my respected colleague but as this is a democracy, I will defend, to death, his right to stupidity and ignorance." he might as well have been talking of you Meo.

Not always.



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editor75 eloquently described Meo's condition somewhere in this forum. However, I'm too busy to look it up. I remember it had something to do about people breaking after being put through too much agony by their tormentors and ending up as docile, drooling idiots.

Relative frequency of negative themes in EssayScam.org

Some indication of the types of topics most frequently discussed in this forum can be discerned from a breakdown of the following search terms.

Scam 7,225
Cheat 1,564
Scammer 1,312
Crook 605
Steal 528
Sick 324
Stole 288
Con artist 192
Nasty 129
Thief 104
Thieves 97
Swindler 11

Whole lotta negativity goin' on...

The above results are completely skewed as well because I limited my search terms to these negative words. A search for more positive words shows a fairly equal balance:

Honest 2,390
Great 2,061
Legitimate 2,026
Professional 1567
High quality 649
Friendly 125
Reliable 547
Outstanding 49
Dependable 18

Of course, some of these statistics may be wrong because the term is taken out of context (e.g., ". . . he was not professional" or ". . . he was not reliable," etc.). It is also likely that many of these instances were due to spam which was subsequently identified and criticized for what it was by forum members.

That's not entirely surprising considering that this is a totally unregulated industry conducted online, largely between customers and service providers who remain anonymous to one another in which there are dozens of scammers masquerading as "writers" for every legitimate freelance writer and perhaps 100+ scam companies for every legitimate essay company with new ones popping up as soon as their old scams get exposed. There are also hundreds of inexperienced and/or totally unqualified writers (both freelance and company writers) just "dabbling" at this because they're unemployed or just trying to do it part time until they can find "real" fulltime jobs doing something else.

The purpose of this forum is to be a mouth piece. It allows a controlled, but free-flowing discussion in relation to client experiences with writing companies and freelance writers. Positive or negative, the post will be informative and useful to the students who come here looking for guidance. A civilized discussion will never the shut down at this forum. However, if you run out of control and turn this forum into a battleground, then expect the administrators to step in to prevent any libel cases that could get the forum owners involved in the suit.

Hi. You've mentioned your essay company so many times that many of us are extremely curious to know its name. Thank you kindly in advance for your response.

I believe that there was a time when the users of this forum were a bit hot headed and easily exploded into arguments in an effort to show off their writing skills or to catch the attention of the students who may have been looking for writers at the time. I am glad that the forum has stopped being a war zone and the discussions are now civilized and more useful to the students (for the most part) .