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Are individual essay writers more expensive than the company writers? Price per page?


max999  2 | 3  
Jan 22, 2010 | #1
hi,

are individual writers too expensive than the big companies?
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jan 22, 2010 | #2
Are they more expensive than the companies?
1) depends on the company
2) depends on the writer
Quality tends to be more expensive.

Supposing you are going for quality, working directly with a writer may be less expensive but you have to be very very careful when making your selection.

In both cases - choose well and rely on your own better judgement.
cocklejoe  3 | 115  
Jan 22, 2010 | #3
are individual writers too expensive than the big companies?

Yes, but on average they're 59.2% better.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Jan 22, 2010 | #4
I can't speak for anybody else, but I generally charge slightly more than the cheapest commercial rates available from any companies that use my services and substantially less than their most expensive rates for comparable delivery times. Several of my clients use me for rush papers and have taken my suggestion to use the commercial sites that I've recommended for longer deadlines; others don't mind paying slightly more for the consistency of always knowing who the writer is and for the more personalized services available from private freelance writers.
QuelleSurprise  - | 41  
Jan 23, 2010 | #5
Maxx999

If you can find an excellent writer, then yes, OF COURSE, it will be cheaper because any legit essay company takes a third to a half of what you pay them. Why? Because running a business is expensive! At least half of what the company gets will go on advertising, IT, wages, taxes etc etc. So in theory, finding your own writer would mean you get quality work at half price.

WB says: "Quality tends to be more expensive." I agree - and that is why you must avoid companies that people like WB (who is from the cheapo company ********* - avoid that one!) try to promote on here (by dissing other companies)

"working directly with a writer may be less expensive but you have to be very very careful when making your selection."

Again, I agree with the ********* witch! That is why YOU MUST AVOID all those who post on this site. This site is NOT AT ALL trustworthy or legitimate and is full of promoters of essay sites and desperate writers looking for trade. Bit like a cheap w*0rehouse full of old saggy girls on the game, really.

Better to put up a notice in a local GOOD university - especially on the postgrad notice board (ask for tuition and proofreading, not writing).

Good luck!
WritersBeware  
Jan 23, 2010 | #6
WB says:

Too bad that I didn't make any of those statements, moron.

MW (Moronic Wackjob), you should probably cease your libelous activities on this board, as I have allowed you to sufficiently bury yourself to the point at which several different companies can and will sue you in UK courts if I supply them with all of the information at my disposal (which I have strategically refrained from posting in this forum).
QuelleSurprise  - | 41  
Jan 23, 2010 | #7
Maxx999

If you can find an excellent writer, then yes, OF COURSE, it will be cheaper because any legit essay company takes a third to a half of what you pay them. Why? Because running a business is expensive! At least half of what the company gets will go on advertising, IT, wages, taxes etc etc. So in theory, finding your own writer would mean you get quality work at half price.

WB says: "Quality tends to be more expensive." I agree - and that is why you must avoid companies that people like WB (who is from the cheapo company ********* - avoid that one!) try to promote on here (by dissing other companies)

"working directly with a writer may be less expensive but you have to be very very careful when making your selection."

Again, I agree with the ********* witch! That is why YOU MUST AVOID all those who post on this site. This site is NOT AT ALL trustworthy or legitimate and is full of promoters of essay sites and desperate writers looking for trade. Bit like a cheap w*0rehouse full of old saggy girls on the game, really.

Better to put up a notice in a local GOOD university - especially on the postgrad notice board (ask for tuition and proofreading, not writing).

Good luck!
WritersBeware  
Jan 23, 2010 | #8
MW (Moronic Wackjob), please confirm whether or not you would like to challenge me. The ball is in your court.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Jan 23, 2010 | #9
The loon doesn't know when to stop.
Songirl  1 | 12  
Mar 26, 2010 | #10
[Moved from]:

price range per page?



wondering if "you get what you pay for" works in this case. One site is 7 bucks a page, other's are 10-20 bucks... What would you go with? thanks.
WritersBeware  
Mar 26, 2010 | #11
If a site charges less than $15 per page, it is almost certainly a foreign ripoff site masquerading as "American."
Songirl  1 | 12  
Mar 29, 2010 | #12
oke doke.. thanks so much!
JamesUK  - | 3  
Apr 20, 2010 | #13
Even $15 a page is hardly anything! Don't expect anything better than a 2:2 even if you select 1st on the site. In my experience, top class and genuine sites tend to charge about $200 for a 2000 word essay, which is about $65 a page.
WritersBeware  
Apr 20, 2010 | #14
Your numbers are not accurate.

Let's just assume that a given site in the UK provides 300 words per page (which is high).

2,000 words - 300 words per page = 6.67 pages
$200 - 6.67 = $29.99 per page

Please explain how you arrived at $65 per page.

Also, please keep in mind that this is not a UK forum. It's a US forum. Neither US students nor US companies use 2:2 or 2:1 grading, and it is ILLEGAL for any company to promise a particular grade in the US.
Sikandar  1 | 26  
Apr 20, 2010 | #15
$200 for a 2000 word essay, which is about $65 a page

James, I think UK companies charge more than that.
Researcher  8 | 310  
Apr 21, 2010 | #16
If a site charges less than $15 per page, it is almost certainly a foreign ripoff site masquerading as "American."

heheh......... don't try to make it standard...... American sites are cheats and proven fraudsters including your site essay*town.com..
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Apr 21, 2010 | #17
American sites are cheats and proven fraudsters including your site essay*town.com..

Going against my better judgement here ...
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you have some logical and factual evidence to support your claim. Your posts could, therefore, be of high contributory value. So, please open a new thread and post the evidence which remotely suggests that "American sites are cheats and proven fraudsters."

I'm in a rather expansive mood, so I'll give you another benefit of doubt. You have repeatedly claimed that the exposition of certain sites as fraudulent is motivated by racism. I am assuming that you are aware of the fact that some American sites (less than a handful) were exposed as shoddy, here. That being the case, please explain how and why you arrived at your `racism' conclusion.
Kevin  - | 34  
Apr 21, 2010 | #18
WRT - YOU post evidence that any of the companies YOU allege are frauds are actually frauds and that all the posters you accuse of being scammers are in fact that.

OTHERWISE, SHUT YOUR HOLE, YOU PSYCHO PARASITIC WORM! LMAO!
WritersBeware  
Apr 21, 2010 | #19
No problem, psycho. All you have to do is NAME the site, and we will be more than happy to prove our statements valid-you know, with evidence.
WRT  16 | 1656 ☆☆   Company Representative
Apr 21, 2010 | #20
All you have to do is NAME the site

He daren't.

Prove us wrong, Kevin, name the sites ... confront us. Are you man enough? I don't believe you are. You are really nothing more than a parasite who preys on innocent students - takes their money and ... well, you know the rest.
Songirl  1 | 12  
Apr 21, 2010 | #21
Nice! Thanks for the input everyone! Found a great writer at a decent rate, not to high, and not too low. bbb
meqr  - | 6  
Apr 22, 2010 | #22
'Songirl' May I ask how you went about this.... it seems like a finding a needle in a haystack.
xotica  - | 11  
Apr 22, 2010 | #23
songirl .. where did you find a good writer .what site?
Songirl  1 | 12  
Apr 29, 2010 | #24
It is like finding a needle in a haystack or even just taking a risk and diving in and if you get ripped off you have this site to vent or complain or whatever... I think I got very lucky..

oh and I used a combination of google searches and typing in the sites on essayscam search and read what people had to say on particular sites yada yada.
jonsey76  - | 5  
Oct 05, 2011 | #25
If you cut out the middle man you pay less. Companies act as middle men. The problem is finding good individual writers.
Academic Expert101  - | 31   Freelance Writer
Aug 06, 2014 | #26
Companies act as middlemen for students and writers. This implies that the cost involved is a higher, since these companies take half or even more than what the writer gets in writing one page. So, I would recommend you pick competent writers if you want to pay less.
VernonBarth  - | 31   Student
Sep 19, 2014 | #27
It depends upon you that which writer you want, for that you have to clear your ideas what you need, that means you need a writer to write your guide or proposals or any specifications because for that you have to select a company writer. If you want a range of materials written for that you need to have individual writer.
havard101  - | 6   Student
Sep 21, 2014 | #28
In most cases they are cheaper but they may be expensive as they may provide poor papers not reviewed by professional editors. There are companies such as essay writing and best writing which are very affordable as well as ethical. I can recommend them comfortably.
editor75  13 | 1844  
Sep 21, 2014 | #29
You're professional stooge.
ResearchMercenary  - | 4   Freelance Writer
Sep 21, 2014 | #30
Depends on the company, depends on the writer, depends on the turnaround. It's true that you pay for quality, but you pay for reliability too. In my opinion, the ideal scenario would be for someone you know to refer you to a high-quality freelancer. If you don't know anyone who can vouch for a freelancer, the equation becomes a bit more complicated.

There are steps anyone can take if the want to try to verify that a company is reputable--these forums are a good place to start. But there are scams everywhere, and it can be hard to sort fact from fiction, irrespective of whether you're dealing with a company or a freelancer.

At the end of the day, you have to roll the dice. If you feel you're overpaying, then look elsewhere. But if you're getting quality work already, the cost of trying to find another reliable source--sifting through scammers, possibly paying for a product that comes back in broken English, etc.--could end up outweighing the money you hoped to save by changing in the first place.
Gayu  - | 1   Student
Sep 06, 2015 | #31
Speaking of individual freelance writers...

Has the emphasis on individualism caused people to forget the importance of belonging to a community



IndividualismYes, in my opinion the idea of individualism has caused people to forget the importance of belonging to a community. Nowadays each of us has created his/her own bubble and we the least bothered about what's happening outside our bubble, individualism has made people selfish. People react fiercely when their bubble is concerned and others are the least of their concerns. The pleasures of team spirit and sportsmanship are lost among today's generation.

Another thing that bothers me about this individualism is that these days even the parents want their children to do something individually so that only their child gets the praise. For example, last week my younger brother wanted to join the musical band of our school, but my parents refused bluntly and told him that if he wanted then they would hire a private tutor for him. At first I couldn't understand their refusal but when I asked them their answer surprised me they said that my brother was good at music and if he joined the group then he wouldn't get the solo praise and attention he deserved. Quite frankly I never expected such an answer from them cause from childhood we have been taught to share and think about "us" rather than "I" but today the competition levels are so high that it kind of forces people to think this way. All of us have forgotten the true sense of unity,I still remember the phrase our grandma said " United we stand .. Divided we fall", I would like to end my essay by saying that individualism is great but all of us should have communalism within us.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Sep 06, 2015 | #32
When it comes to fun activities, belonging to a community has its values and is important. However, when there is some real and hard job to do, working as a team isn't usually the most effective solution.
wordsies  5 | 389     Freelance Writer
Nov 18, 2020 | #33
Most websites have an automated system that accepts orders without flagging anything. The only time you're going to be talking to an actual person is either after a writer takes the order and starts asking questions, or if by chance the sales team sees your order and asks for clarification. This is not the case when you work with a private writer though. Each has its benefits; writers who work alone can take longer to respond because they are busy, or sleeping, or having their appendix removed. Company writers will respond faster (in general), because there's always someone watching the boards and looking for orders. Guess it boils down to personal preference.
ninjawarrior  - | 206  
Nov 20, 2020 | #34
I would expect that in a competent company, automatic order forms would be overseen by someone who knows what they're doing before being shuffled into the general bidding pool. Especially if that competent company has good writers, a lot of those orders are going to be requests.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 20, 2020 | #35
Company writers will respond faster (in general), because there's always someone watching the boards and looking for orders.

Wordsies, I'd respectfully disagree with this.

First, when essay company reps respond to customer questions, they can't really answer any questions for the writer without reaching the writer. So, that only adds another link in that communication chain.

Second, most of the attempted communications initiated by clients are to their writers through the messaging system. Admin never sees those messages unless they have some specific reason to look for them. That means those messages won't ordinarily get seen by anybody unless or until the writer checks for them. Admin may "watch the board" in terms of what orders go up and/or get taken; but admin doesn't actively monitor the messaging system for communications between customers and writers unless there's some specific issue with a particular order or they're checking up on a writer for possible misuse of the system (such as using it to share personal contact info with customers).

Third, to whatever extent company writers either monitor their accounts or neglect to do so, that's no different from the way independent writers monitor their email accounts. For example, as a company writer, I had the assignment board up on 3 different laptops in different rooms 24/7/365. Now, as an independent writer, I have my email account open 24/7/365 on 3 laptops in the same rooms. If an essay company writer only does this part time, he or she may not check the company board for days; and the same may be true for part time independent writers who don't check their work emails. So, that's really no different based on the company/independent distinction. However, it's a good reason to prefer fulltime writers who monitor our systems constantly, primarily because we never want to miss any new project inquiries. For most of my career as a company writer, I used to be away from my screens for about 3 hours almost every day, while I went to the gym. In 2009, I built a full gym in my apartment, substantially because that allows me to be home monitoring my screens more. At the time, it was much more about not missing any orders that could get taken by other company writers while I was gone; but now it allows me to monitor and respond to emails even while I'm working out at home, in between sets.

Whether a writer works for companies or independently, he just needs to be responsible about checking for and responding to emails and about maintaining a good backup plan for completing projects in an emergency. The only difference between company writers and independent writers in that regard is that the former only need to notify the company of the emergency while the independent writer also needs to arrange for a trusted colleague to take over in an emergency situation. In my case, that means maintaining relationships with several trusted colleagues AND having taught my wife how to read and cross-reference my calendar with my emails and how to contact my emergency backups, just in case I get hit by a bus or break my leg playing hockey and I'm totally incapacitated and unable to get to my computers and/or do my work. Nothing like that has ever happened, but I'm prepared, just in case.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Nov 21, 2020 | #36
Individual writers can keep their costs down far better than a company can. The freelance writers have a more flexible cost per page because they allow students to haggle the price. The writers know how much they are work in terms of labor cost and cost per page. They do not have too much overhead to speak of, unlike the companies that hire a "Staff" to keep the company running 24/7/. The price per page will vary, it depends upon the topic, the length of time to the deadline, and how well you discuss the CPP with the writer. The more research the writer has to do, higher the cost. However, the farther the deadline, the cheaper the cost per page.
wordsies  5 | 389     Freelance Writer
Nov 21, 2020 | #37
@FW, that's precisely what I was trying to say. Ordering from a company puts roadblocks in communication, but I don't agree that private writers can be present 24/7, not if they work alone (as I presume you and I do). Now, I don't know how every system works, since I haven't worked for every company (obviously), but those that I do know have a poor record on communication, at least from the clients' perspective. However, you have to sleep, as do I. Companies have that advantage over us, they have writers who stay up (just like you say you did many times) all night just to catch that order that comes in. I can function without sleep for a while, but staying up 24 hours every day is just not possible. And I am not going to pay someone to monitor my email for orders.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Nov 22, 2020 | #38
... I don't agree that private writers can be present 24/7 ... you have to sleep, as do I. Companies have that advantage over us, they have writers who stay up ... all night just to catch that order that comes in.

I think we might be discussing two different things: namely, (1) accepting new orders 24/7 vs. (2) responding to communications on existing projects 24/7.

When it comes to the former issue, yes, it's true that companies can accept new orders 24/7, whether it's because they use automated ordering systems or because there are always some writers awake monitoring the assignment boards. I don't think this is what's at issue in this thread, mainly because being able to place a new order isn't usually time sensitive, particularly when it's only a matter of the eight hours (or whatever) that all of us sleep. Whether I sleep from 2:00 AM to 10:00 AM or from 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM, there will often be emails for me about new projects waiting for me when I wake up; and I just respond to them as soon as I'm awake and we just proceed from there. Conversely, whereas company orders can sometimes sit on the assignment boards for days without being taken by any writer, it's extremely unusual for any fulltime independent writer not to respond to a new-project inquiry for more than a half a day.

When it comes to the latter issue, what I'm saying is that there's no difference between dealing with companies and dealing with independent writers. That's because once an order is already booked, there's only one writer involved and that writer sleeps or is otherwise unavailable at times. That's no less true for any individual company writer than it is for any independent writer, because, as you've mentioned, we all need to sleep sometimes. The fact that company customers might be able to reach someone in administration at a company 24/7 doesn't help the customer reach his writer, because if the writer is sleeping or unavailable, that doesn't change whether it's the customer trying to reach the writer directly or the company reps trying to reach that writer to relay a message from the customer. Either way, if the writer is sleeping, the customer isn't going to get his response until the writer is available again to read and respond to messages. As I explained earlier, messages sent through company systems for writers of specific projects aren't usually seen by anybody except the writer of that specific project; so there's no advantage to using a company to whatever extent the concern is being able to reach a specific writer 24/7 about any already-pending project.
noted  8 | 2052 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Oct 31, 2024 | #39
Companies tend to charge less these days because they are trying to get business away from the students who are using AI for their essay writing. These companies believe that charging less is the best way to handle the AI situation. They refuse to admit that the problem they have when it comes to getting and keeping clients is that their writers are not very good. So, they charge less and at the same time, deliver sub par service. As far as an independent writer is concerned though, he can charge highly for his services depending upon the length of time he has been in the business and his client retention basis. An independent writer can offer discounts to repeat clients, depending upon their discussions and agreements. You pay for quality service in this case so expect to pay an independent writer more, even at a discounted rate.
The opinions are that of the author's alone based on an individual capacity. Opinions are provided "as is" and are not error-free.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2024 | #40
The way I see it, the fact that so many essay-company writers have obviously been trying to get away with using AI for their projects only increases the demand for experienced legitimate independent writers who (really) write everything themselves and who would never waste their time on AI-generated content. To us, the writing generated by AI programs is laughably bad. I sympathize with essay companies that now have to police their writers' use of AI in addition to always having had to weed out writers who plagiarize the old-fashioned way(s). Most companies use their own proprietary plagiarism scanners, but as I've previously explained several times, it isn't possible to "scan" accurately for AI-generated writing, because, however bad it is, it's still "original" and, therefore, won't match any existing content the way that plagiarized writing can be identified by scanners, often pinpointing exactly what sources were copied to produce it.




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