Original papers or not?

Now..how do we know if it's an original paper?

I don't know about other companies, but all the ones who use me always check our work with something like turnitin software. Plagiarism gets you fired immediately. It wouldn't take too long to get caught even if they didn't; the first time a student complained and forwarded a plagiarism report documenting plagiarism, we'd be done. From what I've read on this forum about other companies, that's obviously not universally true in the industry.

Apart from the fact that legitimate companies check the work prior to sending it to the customer, you can do so through writecheck.turnitin.com.


Unfortunately, freelancewriter, only a handful follow the one strike plagiarism policy.

I think, when it comes to you it is original. But almost all the companies resell them. In two years, we came across only one or two companies, who don't. This does not mean that they won't do so in future.

ok Thanks for your responses... going to keep that turnitin.com.. but it sounds like from dreamer, there's a chance I might get a resold paper anyway.. but the info helps.. thanks

'Songirl' I noticed you did a message on printwriter? do you have any feedback?

I ended up using "Freelancewriter". Probably not allowed to say anything more specific but no complaints at all about what I got for my money.

WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule. Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....

Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here.

Attention:

Freelance Writer works for legitimate, American companies and agrees with my positions probably 95% of the time, so your claim merely proves your idiocy.

WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule.

Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....

Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here (WB, WRT et al).

Just like the psychotic loser to repeat its defeated argument . . . .

The Psycho makes this declaration:


Then goes on to state the following:



Your powers of persuasion are, indeed, amazing. Your arguments are, by all accounts, absolutely unique.

It is difficult for any to counter the remarkable points you've raised :)

WritersBeware - Libel and lies are not allowed for very good reason, but you seem to ignore that rule.

Why? Oh yes, it is because you own a scam essay website and hate legit companies to get your business....

Good luck Songirl. Ignore the scammers here (WB, WRT et al).

Sorry. I already tried to edit it before your comment to change it to something like "I can't say more but if I got scammed you would have read about it here" but it was too late to make any edits to it.

Is there anyway to figure that out?

Also regarding turnitin, I heard they keep a copy of your paper? Is that true?

Someone answer me pleeeeese this is what I found:

Under their terms and conditions they state:

License to Use Papers Submitted. With regard to papers submitted to the Site, You hereby grant iParadigms a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, world-wide, irrevocable license to reproduce, transmit, display, disclose, archive and otherwise use in connection with the Services any paper You submit to the Site. Please note that papers submitted to the Site are not read or reviewed by any individuals, but rather are only analyzed using the Service.

Then under the FAQ's they say:

Does WriteCheck add my paper to the Turnitin databases?
No WriteCheck does not add your paper to Turnitin's databases. Therefore if your instructor submits your paper to Turnitin, it will be seen by Turnitin as an original paper.

Isn't that contradicting??

Help!!

The only way this is reconcilable is if:

1) There is a turnitin database
This is where they store all the essays that are checked by lecturers and institutions

2) Writecheck
When students check their work using this service, then as they say, they do not store it in this database hence when the lecturer checks it, it will come up original.

Am I making sense?

Yes, Turnitin does store a copy in the repository.


That's what they say. The fact is that if you use writecheck and your instructor later scans the same paper through turnitin, it does come up as original. Whether or not the papers are stored or are simply eliminated from the cross-checking, is hard to tell.

Thanks, so I guess Turnitin is being a little dishonest in their FAQ section as quoted above?

I can't say for sure but, I rather do suspect that they are stored.

I've used Turnitin as a student and yes, they do store your papers from everywhere as long as you've submitted in to them.

i uses writecheck always before send "my job" to my instructors. and never have issues about plagiarism.

I've just read your whole series of "contributions" to threads and I'd just like to ask you what language do want us to believe anybody actually pays you to "write" in? It can't possibly be English, right?

if you are going to live in a glass house, better proof your posts!


until turnitin.com, they did so much more freely. this is yet another reason that turnitin is the bane of the writing industry, from the writer/owner side.

for the student side, I have a request: go to your professor, express concern about the legal copyright status of your papers, and ask for help with opting out of turnitin.

Yes sir it is not english, i am esl student. i never said "i am writer" actually i am consumer. i like to uses writecheck. somebody told me "sometimes you read and read a lot and few statements can stick in your head and look like plagiarism"

No problem. Read more. Post less.

Turnitin isn't the most accurate way of judging the originality of a paper, no matter what educators say. The company is just using an academically supported way of stealing student information and data. They cannot be relied an to properly analyze a paper because it relies on A.I. technology , which doesn't function in the same way a human would. Personally, I prefer to assume that a paper is original if the writer followed my instructions and provided proper citations in the paper. a simple google search of certain paragraphs would also be a better basis than any software available for plagiarism checking.

How do you know it is an original paper? You don't. With the exception of Freelancewriter who takes pains to ensure the originality of the paper he submits to the student, everyone else must remain suspect. Sure checking the originality using plagiarism software helps, but not all the time. Those that hold your paper in a database could prove to be a problem once the paper is submitted to the professor. There have been times when, an original piece of text is cited several times over in various online locations that the writer wrongfully gets accused of plagiarism. All because he cited the 7th reposting of the information rather than the root source. That is why it is difficult to assess paper originality. ESL writers do not care about originality, they just care about the money. Do not expect them to turn in original papers because they are incapable of doing that.

Thank you. I wouldn't really characterize it as taking "pains," though; because when you know that all of your writing comes straight from your own mind, you don't have to worry about whether or not you're writing something that's original. One thing that I find myself having to explain to some new clients who ask me whether I include free plagiarism scans with their essays is that writers don't need to use plagiarism scanners unless they know that they're in the habit of paraphrasing from (uncredited) sources instead of actually writing something of their own. Writers who need to use plagiarism scanners are fully aware that they're just rewriting existing material and just trying to change it enough to pass for original writing. The only exception is that when you've already written about the same topic many times, it's possible to write something that's almost identical to what you've written before. So, I've learned to check my old projects on similar topics before finalizing them, just in case.

I wonder if you have ever come across a case where the paper of the student is composed of nothing but cut and paste information, with properly cited text, then they ask you polish the essay under proofreading services? I have had to deal with students who seem to think that simply citing sources throughout the paper passes for an original presentation. I keep telling them that they have to at least explain their understanding of the text and somehow relate it to previously related written material in their paper before it can pass as even "original" text or discussion presentations. I end up asking them if they paid for the paper they are asking me to rework for them because the whole presentation reeks of haphazard ESL work. Most of them insist that the work is original but I really doubt that. Some of them even kick off the research paper with in-text citation and no thesis statements these days. Making it ever more difficult to fix the presentation, and further adding to my questions about the originality of their paper. Sometimes, I have to tell them that if they submit the paper as is, a plagiarism checker is going to come back with at least a 75% plagiarism reading and the professor will either fail the paper or, ask them to rewrite it.