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Paid for 5 pages but need 15 more. New writer refused to use existing pages, why?


ItsMe2  1 | 1   Student
Aug 19, 2013 | #1
I hired an essay writer privately. He has gmail address. He was supposed to write 20 pages but deliverd only first 5 pages. The writing and quality is good and theres no plagiarism. But he doesn't reply any more and is not interested in finishing. I paid him only for 5 pages for trial.

What can I do now? I contacted another writer but she says she cannot use the 5 pages because its not her style and her approach is different.

So I now paid for 5 pages but it cannot be used? So I lost money? Why a new writer cannot work with existing content and only add new content, is it normal?
Loliwe  - | 3  
Aug 19, 2013 | #2
Maybe the writer considers the topic to be too complex for him or her
OP ItsMe2  1 | 1   Student
Aug 19, 2013 | #3
Topic is hard but he did quite well! I wanted to continue working with him, but he stopped communication. It's been a week so I have to move on. I just didnt want to lose money for the work already done, but the new writer says it's easier for her to start from scratch and she cannot use the 5 pages I alrady have.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 19, 2013 | #4
That's yet another reason why using a reputable writing service usually trumps using an individual freelance writer. A legitimate writing provider would eat the cost of the already completed work and have another writer finish the project. If you use a freelancer and he/she bails on you then you are stuck with whatever work has been completed and you are not entitled for a refund for the part already completed.
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2013 | #5
Maybe the writer considers the topic to be too complex for him or her

That can happen if it's a hard project that's already at the fringes of the writer's confidence range, but it's hard to understand why the writer just stopped communicating like that...unless it's because he got hit by a bus or something. It would be a different situation if you'd already paid for 20 pages, but the writer's not obligated to continue the project any more than you considered yourself obligated to use him for the rest of it at the time you agreed on what you've described as a 5-page trial assignment from your perspective.

I contacted another writer but she says she cannot use the 5 pages because its not her style and her approach is different.

As far as the other writer is concerned, it can take longer to go through someone else's work and blend your ideas together, especially if it's a topic you already have your own thoughts about handling.
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2013 | #6
I wouldn't want to pick it up from the middle like that for fear that if those first five pages somehow were problematic, I'd be blamed.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 19, 2013 | #7
I'd be blamed

Yes; that's the main reason (not the urge to earn more money) why most writers would prefer to start from scratch.
Bubba Tolstoy  1 | 49   Company Representative
Aug 19, 2013 | #8
she says she cannot use the 5 pages because its not her style and her approach is different.

then tell her you're going to contact another writer; plenty of writers out there would be willing to incorporate the 5 pages into the work
Writer_456  5 | 49   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2013 | #9
Bubba Tolstoy

waiting for you to start paying your writers 0.25 USD per page, that would produce some amazing quality of work. Perhaps you can bite the bullet and start paying 0.15 USD per page? The sky's the limit, Bubba.
Bubba Tolstoy  1 | 49   Company Representative
Aug 19, 2013 | #10
i pay you the .25 cents your worth and not a penny more. this is also not the place to ask for a raise.
Writer_456  5 | 49   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2013 | #11
don't try to imply that I work for you, old man. No writer in a right mind will work for a scum like you.
Bubba Tolstoy  1 | 49   Company Representative
Aug 19, 2013 | #12
like i said before, this is not how you get premium writer status; be happy with the .25 cents per page you make, because i'm forced to review your writing and, believe me, .25 cents for you is very generous.
Jason152  - | 17   Company Representative
Aug 19, 2013 | #13
.25 cent per page.... Dont you think its not worth to write at this price
99Essays  3 | 243   Freelance Writer
Aug 19, 2013 | #14
Yes; that's the main reason (not the urge to earn more money) why most writers would prefer to start from scratch.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but in my case, I wouldn't want to mess with it, and it's precisely because I wouldn't want to be on the hook for work that wasn't my own. In the busy season, I'm not looking to create more pages for myself. The issues are reputation and efficiency.

These are the things I'd worry about:

-The five pages were plagiarized. Student spreads the word that I'm a plagiarizer.
-The five pages were horrible. Student spreads the word that I suck.
-The five pages need extensive revision. Student thinks it's totally unfair to be asked to pay extra for revisions on a paper that I, for the most part, wrote.

-The five pages are below mediocre and it proves to be harder to incorporate them than it would have been to write from scratch.*

*Most likely scenario.
Major  35 | 1449 ☆☆  
Aug 20, 2013 | #15
I don't know if you're being sarcastic

Not sarcastic; I agree with your arguments.
Merije  - | 2   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2013 | #16
yeah not a good behaviour from the previous writer
FreelanceWriter  6 | 3089   ☆☆☆   Freelance Writer
Oct 31, 2013 | #17
How do you figure? Even the client acknowledges that is was a trial.

I paid him only for 5 pages for trial.

Using Existing PaperIf it's a trial for the client and the client has the right to decline to use the writer based on that trial, the writer has the same right. It's a very simple concept of mutuality or bilateral contract. Neither of them had any obligation to continue beyond 5 pages based on their explicit language describing their agreement. It would have been a totally different story if the writer had been paid for 20 pages and then decided to write only 5, leaving the client hanging. The client would have had a very good argument for demanding a full refund for the very reason explained by other writers: it's harder to find a writer willing to add 15 pages to an existing 5 pages written by someone else than it is to find a writer willing to just write 20 pages. What's your reasoning for suggesting that only the writer and not the client was bound to continue the project after what the client describes as "5 pages for a trial"?

Further, it isn't necessarily that you couldn't agree in advance that one party has a different option than the other: such as where the writer agrees to accept the whole project on the condition that the client wants him to after receiving the 5-page sample...or vice-versa: the agreement in advance could be that the client agrees to commission the whole project if the writer wants to continue beyond the 5 pages. Various types of non-mutual obligations could be formed by an explicit set of terms; but if it's nothing more than a loose mention of "5 paid test pages" of a possible 20 pages, nobody is obligated to continue the professional relationship at all unless that scenario was discussed and negotiated. If it could be a problem, the writer and client should just discuss their respective expectations, all the more so because it's a foreseeable possibility under the circumstances.
Cite  2 | 1853 ☆☆☆  
Jan 12, 2021 | #18
So I now paid for 5 pages but it cannot be used? So I lost money? Why a new writer cannot work with existing content and only add new content, is it normal?

This is not a normal practice. My guess is that the writer you hired outsourced the paper writing for the 5 page trial order. Now, you were satisfied and everything but, the writer that he shared profits with, the writer who did the actual writing suddenly became unavailable. Hence the refusal to write 15 more pages. That is the first case scenario that came to mind. The second scenario, is that the writer managed to complete 5 pages. Simple enough. However, he does not have the writing ability and research prowess to actually complete a 20 page paper for you. Which is why he took the money for the 5 pages, but refuses to follow through on the remaining 15 pages. As for hiring another writer, that will be difficult because every writer has his own writing style. You would do better using the 5 pages as a basis for the new writer to completely write the 20 pages on instead.
noted  7 | 2004 ☆☆☆☆☆  
Jul 14, 2023 | #19
It all boils down to a uniformity in the final product. The writing style must be the same throughout the paper otherwise, the teacher may get a hint that the student did not write the paper. That is why writers who continue the work fo previous writers prefer to write their own version from scratch. It is not to belittle the previous writer, but it is to shield the client from potential problems arising from the sudden change in writing styles. Teachers notice these changes, it is a dead giveaway that the student used a writing mill to complete the task.
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