Submitted some work, but worried about plagiarism.

Hey I have a question, any help?

I don't know how to start a new thread, and I am worried. I submitted some work in, that I basically did for another class, but I remixed it a little, however I used the same sources and the ideas are the same, but most of the words have been changed, however, there is one paragraph out of 8 pages that I copied word for word, but it is my work. Question. If the university used data bases to check for this stuff do I have to be worried if I handed in a hard copy form essay?

Justify your human rights violations, and then we'll talk.

Lol, idi amin is my nickname nothing more. Anyways, I am concerned man, I never even thought of it until I had already handed it in.

Would really appreciate some advice bro. The last time I handed the similar work in I only gave a hard copy and the teacher marked it within a week. Is there a possibility that it could have been scanned into a database like turnitin, or is an electronic copy needed for that?

If your previous paper was scanned, you're pretty much screwed.

How do they scan it, and how do I know if it has been scanned?

I don't think you can get in legal trouble for this, but you should fail the paper.

Chances are, if you didn't submit it electronically it wasn't scanned. that's no guarantee, though. You'll find out soon enough, I suppose.

My guess would be (and I have no basis for this other than my own conjecture) that you won't get in as much trouble because you at least used your own work, but that's entirely up to your school's policy.

Ok the thing was I took a course last year, and there were about 50 students in the class, and the teacher only accepted hard copy essays and returned them in 7 days. Would she really have time to scan all these papers, mark them and hand them backk in a week. Also what is the process of scanning the paper, and how long does it usually take if in hard copy form. Also then do they archive it? Help!

This is bothering me a bit, any answers please. I know some of you are real smart guys.

Sorry for being a nuisance, but what I want to know is if in order for them to detect me using the same sources and main ideas again in another paper, does that mean A) the first teacher I handed it in to had to type it out all over again since I handed it in in hard copy form, or B) they have machines that scan the work, and make it machine readable that then archives it?

Zero worries. No way in hell the teacher manually scanned every page of every paper, converted each OCR scan to .doc format, and then submitted to Turnitin. (Even if he/she were crazy enough to attempt such a task, OCR technology is still fairly inaccurate and he/she could never justify using that unreliable technology as part of a grading system. He/she would be exposing the institution to serious legal problems.)

Have a beer.

Man, I hope yo are right. I am worried though. I hope it isn't in a data base, I wish there was a way I could check.

You're safe. Totally safe.

Anybody know what the chances are that teachers scan papers into a data base if it is a hard copy? Also how long does the process usually take?

You already received a clear and definitive answer.

Sorry about being repetitive bro, and I think I worded that a little off. What I meant to say is what are the chances that professors use the various data bases, as in is it something they do all the time, are required to do by the institution, or just do when they feel like it. Thanks a lot for the re-assurance though brother.

It's not a matter of "chances." It's a matter of your particular professor's practices. If you don't know those practices, you can't expect anyone here to know.

too bad chacha got kicked of; he always claimed to be clairvoyant.

I'm still trying to come to grips with chacha's level of stupidity.

Me too!

Best thing is that he believes he makes sense.

Is that the all powerful admitting to a mistake?

A very disturbing statement. Do you, by any chance, remind people of him - hence, the nickname?

If professors really care that much about using turnitin, they just insist on a file. I highly doubt anybody intending to use turnitin would accept hard copy papers in the first place; they'd at least ask for an accompanying file in one format or another. I'm sure reusing your own work violates honor codes, but it's probably a much less serious offense than submitting other's work as your own.

Academic Dishonesty

Academic dishonesty occurs when a student willfully portrays the intellectual ideas or writings of another as their own. It also occurs when a student does not promote exhibit ethical values in their work. These ethical values include honesty respect and responsibility. There should be no question as to the amount of academic integrity that a student has when it comes to their work. A school trusts that the student will promote and exhibit honest academic behavior. When this trust is violated it is difficult, if not impossible, to be repaired.

The penalties for academic dishonesty are of varying levels depending on the number of committed offenses. The initial offense begins with the student resubmitting work or retaking an exam. The penalties for the offenses become more serious as they go on, and ultimately include expulsion from the College of Business. The student will also have the disciplinary action placed on their record.

The academic integrity policy is appropriate because it spells out in plain English the mission of the policy, the definitions of academic dishonesty and some examples, and finally, the penalties association with the action. There should be no question about what is expected of the student when they enter the college when it comes to academic integrity and what the college considers academic dishonesty.

Academic integrity is vital to a student's work. It is also important that the college knows that the student will be honest throughout their academic years. If I could change anything, I would make the penalties more severe for students. I would make the penalties limited to one or two offenses. I would give a student one chance to redeem themselves, after the second offense, I would have them expelled from the school. I do not believe that there is any excuse for academic dishonesty. If I can live with academic integrity, so can other students.

Good point. Must be a minor essay, otherwise you would have submitted a file.

I guess the absence of any response from the TS indicates a happy end.

should I be worried? (PlagiarismDetect question)

So I just recently wrote a paper used my own words and then used the free Plagiarism Detect checker but know I'm worried that it might be sold to someone because but then found out it could be a scam that took your papers and sold them to others.

I don't care if someone else uses my work but I'm afraid it might end up in some plagiarism black list site somewhere and my professor might think I've cheated or get kick out of school?

Know the question is do you think I should write another paper or I should be ok this time around? AS far as I know the professor doesn't require use any turnit.org or something like that.

Students should not voluntarily submit their work to any third-party company-period!

Well I learned my lesson I didn't even think that this type of fraud could have existed or the type of problems with these types of 3rd party companys.

I just submitted it because I was nervous that some how accidentally copped someones eles'es work and didn't know it. The paper was a few page journal entry describing something so I don't know how useful it is to anyone and I don't think it was that good because I'm not a very good writer.

I'll defiantly spread the word so no one makes this type of mistake again that I know.

Submitted a paper to be checked for Plagiarism to a friend at another university just to be sure

Hi
I think ı messed up I submitted my work to be check for plagiarism at another university. But I have submitted officially at my own university, please tell me my own work wont come back as a re submission at TTI the paper was not officially submitted at the other university.. I am super worried God help me

It shouldn't show up unless it's the same university/college. I did a test last year and submitted a test paper (it was just a randomly generated garbage) to my college and my friend submitted it to his own college in the same state but colleges were completely unrelated. The text didn't show up but I checked it the same day it might show up later but I doubt it. They have different license from what I know.

Cover your bases. If you use material from another paper, simply state "as indicated previously" or otherwise ensure that the source is known.

Plagiarism is simply rampant. We have to be extra careful before we write and publish something in the future. There might be circumstances that the idea is plagiarized without us knowing it so make some extra research or adapt and excerpt from any source to avoid that incident.

If an idea is arrived at through independent logic or reasoning, it is not plagiarism even if others have thought of it previously.

What are you trying to say? Either an idea is yours or it's an idea you read in one of your sources. What kind of "extra research" are you suggesting might help someone better distinguish his own ideas from those of the authors of his sources? Likewise, anytime someone would consider quoting an excerpt from a source, that means he already knows the idea needs a citation whether or not it's excerpted verbatim.

Self-plagiarism shouldn't be an issue in any case. You can't plagiarize yourself. Unless, what you are doing is taking quoted information from your previous paper and then using it in a new, similarly themed paper. In which case, a proper in-text citation, along with the proper representation of the original source in your bibliography page should remedy and possible plagiarism issues with your paper.

If you want your paper to be totally free of plagiarism doubts though, it would be best to use as little as possible of the sources from your old paper in the new one. Personally, I would not reuse information from the old paper that is more than 5 years old. The newer the source of the information, the more authoritative it is and the less chance that it would show up as having been cited elsewhere in an electronic plagiarism check.

By the way, there is absolutely no reason for you to quote yourself in your new essay since you are not an authority on whatever topic it is you are discussing in the paper. Play safe though and do your best to paraphrase your text at a higher writing level than the original paper. That way, you can avoid having your paper come up as having similar text with your previous paper should it be run through a checker that happens to have a copy of your old paper on file.

What you should have done was do a little extra leg work. You already had 75% of the work done with the old paper. All you had to do was rephrase everything, then add new, updated information to help change the content totally. Had you done a little extra research, you would have changed the paper in totality and avoided any plagiarism worries. The reason that you are worried is because you were too lazy to do what you knew would update the paper. Nobody ever said that you can't rework an old paper for updated use. You just need to be sure that you totally update the information and presentation from the original.

Nobody except every college professor and schoolteacher on the planet. If any student doesn't think that's true, just try to ask your professor or your teacher whether it's OK for you to "rework" your old paper for "updated use" for a current course. If you asked 100 different professors, exactly 100 of them would forbid you even from writing a totally new paper on the same topic that you submitted for any previous course, let alone a "reworked" or "updated" paper. Why do you continue to post such obviously incorrect information that's potentially dangerous to any student who doesn't know better than to believe what you're posting?

I believe that there is a threshold for plagiarism considerations. If you only kept one sentence intact out of an 8 page paper, then there should not be an issue regarding it. Even if the program flags the sentence, the professor may opt to overlook it since it does not come close to the threshold for plagiarized or cited content within the paper. It would have been safer though, to have cited your previous paper as the source of the reference, just to avoid any plagiarism problems with the new paper. Yes, you are allowed to cite a paper you previously wrote as a source of information in a new, but related paper.

It really depends a lot on the particular sentence involved. An extremely generic and/or common sentence, such as "World War II started with Germany's invasion of Poland on September 1, 1939" has been written countless times in every possible way; so it wouldn't be an issue, even if flagged. However, when a more complex and unique sentence is flagged, that will often trigger a closer review, because it could suggest that the writer plagiarized much more than just a single stray sentence, typically, by rewriting source material without citing it throughout the essay, but simply forgot to rewrite (or delete) that particular sentence.